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I know the Sutton United fan we know hated the Cowleys for their whinging and gamesmanship when at Concord Rangers.
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I think last year the neutral had almost a soft spot for Lincoln going on that cup run winning matches in the last moments ... but that’s gone it’s clear to see their football is long and their tempers appear short. Cowley and his brother constantly complain to the officials it almost seems it’s a part of the plan, the players likewise. They have developed a almost Leeds scenerio in the 70s we’re pretty much everbody hates you.


Like you say the Imps won themselves a lot of friends last year and the Cowley`s a lot of praise and in my eyes it was richly deserved.As a football fan but primarily a GY fan it obviously suits me to have Lincoln in the same Division but I wouldn`t have begrudged them Promotion.I enjoy the Play offs and it just surprised me how limited they were versus Exeter over the 2 games and also the Cowley`s have disappointed me with there touchline antics and if that`s the norm (I`m not sure what`s normal for them?) I would venture they won`t progress much farther in the game?
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Like you say the Imps won themselves a lot of friends last year and the Cowley`s a lot of praise and in my eyes it was richly deserved.As a football fan but primarily a GY fan it obviously suits me to have Lincoln in the same Division but I wouldn`t have begrudged them Promotion.I enjoy the Play offs and it just surprised me how limited they were versus Exeter over the 2 games and also the Cowley`s have disappointed me with there touchline antics and if that`s the norm (I`m not sure what`s normal for them?) I would venture they won`t progress much farther in the game?


I think that's wishful thinking on your part, TBH. If they continue to deliver success, in whatever form or style they use, they will keep getting employed to manage football teams. Most clubs are pragmatic enough to know that success trumps style in most instances. I have to say, I was very jealous of Lincoln nabbing them at the time. I remember thinking, as I was standing on the terraces away at Braintree in the play-off semi-final, that if we don't win this game, we should can Hurst and get the Cowleys in. On reflection, I'm half glad we've had a torrid time, because without that, we wouldn't have found ourselves with Jolley at the helm and I'm more excited with his potential than the end product that DC and co have delivered at Lincoln.
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I think that's wishful thinking on your part, TBH. If they continue to deliver success, in whatever form or style they use, they will keep getting employed to manage football teams. Most clubs are pragmatic enough to know that success trumps style in most instances. I have to say, I was very jealous of Lincoln nabbing them at the time. I remember thinking, as I was standing on the terraces away at Braintree in the play-off semi-final, that if we don't win this game, we should can Hurst and get the Cowleys in. On reflection, I'm half glad we've had a torrid time, because without that, we wouldn't have found ourselves with Jolley at the helm and I'm more excited with his potential than the end product that DC and co have delivered at Lincoln.


Have you not made the same point tanga? I am saying League 2 or below is the Cowley`s level based on the success so far and the apparent lack of tactical nouse displayed over these 2 games.If they continue to deliver success do you mean them going up the football pyramid to do so cos if so I fail to see where this will happen? Like you had we lost to Braintree they would have been an excellent choice to have come in and got the job done ala Lincoln and at the time a breath of fresh air.They are still young so there is hope they can change what they need to but most football manager`s tend to keep to the tried and trusted formula they started out with to gain initial success. The long ball game as it`s place and on it`s day is still a very effective weapon BUT in the modern era ball retention and good use of it seems to be where we are at or heading.Sam Allardyce has just got the boot for employing these tactics,Warnock never seems to last 5 mins in the Prem even though he can work the magic time and again to get there,Pulis and on and on and on the list goes.Even here at GY just look at the flak RS got in his first stint and before him Mike Lyons the fans in the main in England do not want to watch this crap.
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Have you not made the same point tanga? I am saying League 2 or below is the Cowley`s level based on the success so far and the apparent lack of tactical nouse displayed over these 2 games.If they continue to deliver success do you mean them going up the football pyramid to do so cos if so I fail to see where this will happen? Like you had we lost to Braintree they would have been an excellent choice to have come in and got the job done ala Lincoln and at the time a breath of fresh air.They are still young so there is hope they can change what they need to but most football manager`s tend to keep to the tried and trusted formula they started out with to gain initial success. The long ball game as it`s place and on it`s day is still a very effective weapon BUT in the modern era ball retention and good use of it seems to be where we are at or heading.Sam Allardyce has just got the boot for employing these tactics,Warnock never seems to last 5 mins in the Prem even though he can work the magic time and again to get there,Pulis and on and on and on the list goes.Even here at GY just look at the flak RS got in his first stint and before him Mike Lyons the fans in the main in England do not want to watch this crap.


Er, no, not at all. You suggested that their tactics will limit them and they won't go much farther in the game. I don't think their rather primitive tactics will limit them at all, even if they refuse to change their style (and we don't know yet, one way or the other, whether they will). Pulis has just got Middlesbrough in the play-offs. Gareth Ainsworth has just Wycombe promoted utilising an even more basic style than Lincoln. If it works, these managers will continue to get employed, we're 40 years down the line since the first generation of this style was pioneered by Graham Taylor at Lincoln in the mid-70s and it shows no sign of disappearing, even if, as you say, it seems outdated out of favour. This type of coach is always going to be about, even if fans don't particularly like this approach, though I'm glad to day it's never found favour with our fans.

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Er, no, not at all. You suggested that their tactics will limit them and they won't go much farther in the game. I don't think their rather primitive tactics will limit them at all, even if they refuse to change their style (and we don't know yet, one way or the other, whether they will). Pulis has just got Middlesbrough in the play-offs. Gareth Ainsworth has just Wycombe promoted utilising an even more basic style than Lincoln. If it works, these managers will continue to get employed, we're 40 years down the line since the first generation of this style was pioneered by Graham Taylor at Lincoln in the mid-70s and it shows no sign of disappearing, even if, as you say, it seems outdated out of favour. This type of coach is always going to be about, even if fans don't particularly like this approach, though I'm glad to day it's never found favour with our fans.


I can`t pick any holes in what you have posted here this approach most definitely can still have it`s day as the FA Cup shows time and again.I just think it`s less  effective higher up the leagues and certainly less popular and I don`t want to pay to watch it .
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