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LH
February 9, 2018, 9:37pm

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I have been sitting at Scartho Top/Road lights coming off the Top for the last few months at 0430 in the morning and having to wait a couple of minutes for the lights to change - even when I don’t see another car until I get onto Bargate. This bizarre light sequence ended when these traffic lights were approved - not two days after I drafted the most Victor Meldrew of letters to the council about this relatively minor issue.
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February 13, 2018, 4:41pm
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I don't live far from there and apart from half an hour each start and end of the school day there never any real congestion there at all.
The council seemed to be sure they needed these lights before ,during ,and after any consolation despite nobody I've met actually wanting them
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February 13, 2018, 5:29pm
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If you think the traffic light installation was approved due to the issue with children’s safety then you’re very very wrong. It was approved, in part to assist development of land nearby for housing. This is mostly speculation on my part but i’d imagine the housing developers would have been less inclined to build on the land had there still been a roundabout there.

It’s a poor, poor decision to approve it, in my opinion as all it’ll lead to is people jumping the lights, especially when the traffic lights are on amber and/or the traffic has backed up, which it’ll inevitably do at rush hour. I doubt school kids will follow the road markings and crossings either, potentially leading to major accidents involving them. Oh and not forgetting the massive inconvenience it’s going to be for those living in New Waltham, Waltham, Scartho (people will use Grimsby road as a alternative route) and also those in Tetney. Fortunately i live in Cleethorpes and work at the hospital so will miss most of the congestion but it’s going to be bedlam going down Louth road over the coming months.


They are currently building houses at the traffic light junction at Holton Le Clay. There is outline planning permission as I understand it for hundreds more on the field opposite Toll Bar school. There isn't a hope in hell of the current road system coping with the traffic produced by that down the line. I don't drive so personally I don't know whether lights are the answer.


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February 13, 2018, 5:43pm

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I have been sitting at Scartho Top/Road lights coming off the Top for the last few months at 0430 in the morning and having to wait a couple of minutes for the lights to change - even when I don’t see another car until I get onto Bargate. This bizarre light sequence ended when these traffic lights were approved - not two days after I drafted the most Victor Meldrew of letters to the council about this relatively minor issue.


All traffic lights in the area should be turned off between 10pm and 6am I think, with the expection of the main Ellis Way/Victoria Street junction maybe. Have you noticed that whenever traffic lights are out, traffic seems to manage far better and there are less delays than when the lights are working.


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They are currently building houses at the traffic light junction at Holton Le Clay. There is outline planning permission as I understand it for hundreds more on the field opposite Toll Bar school. There isn't a hope in hell of the current road system coping with the traffic produced by that down the line. I don't drive so personally I don't know whether lights are the answer.



Not forgetting the fact they’re building houses on the roundabout at the bottom of Louth road, too.

The only advantage i can see to the traffic lights is that with it soon to be a light controlled junction is that traffic from each side will be able to get out, but all i can see is the traffic building up and up and up, especially from the Holton le clay end. Still, as I suggested before, for me it’s not just for children’s safety that these traffic lights are getting built.
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All traffic lights in the area should be turned off between 10pm and 6am I think, with the expection of the main Ellis Way/Victoria Street junction maybe. Have you noticed that whenever traffic lights are out, traffic seems to manage far better and there are less delays than when the lights are working.


Fully agree in a little Town like ours. A unnecessary waste of money having them turned on at those hours. I’ve seen the lights out at that junction before and traffic managed just fine. Slightly off topic but I don’t see any need for the Scartho Road bus lane either. Why cause queueing at rush hour having it in place?
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