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KingstonMariner
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Again where was the invasion before 9/11?


Fook me. History didn't being in 2001. Don't know much about your own country do you. I thought you were supposed to be some kind of patriot.


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Again where was the invasion before 9/11?


Well Dubya's Daddy bombed the living crap out of Iraq back in 1990 and a good chunk of the country was invaded then. They weren't daft enough to remove Saddam, probably having the intelligence to realise what a clusterfuck would be left behind. That was just a part of it, however.

The current jihadist shtick dates back to the Afghan war back in the 80s in which the Yanks armed and trained up lots of future terrorists (including many Saudis such as Bin Laden, of course) to defeat the Soviets. Following that, Bin Laden and co weren't happy with the continued interference by the west in affairs of Islamic countries and especially the US troops stationed in Saudi. I'd imagine the complete US support for Israel in everything they do was also important in stoking up the trouble. A good precis here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_Saudi_Arabia#Overview

Ultimately, a balls up all round. Law of Unintended Consequences and all that.

No idea how this can all be resolved in anything like the short term so we're going to have to get used to these sorts of attacks. Too many Islamic countries are in chaos (in general due to the West's 'assistance' over the years), no solution in sight for the Israel/Palestine issue, Syria a complete basketcase, ditto Libya.

Personally, I'd say the best option would be to develop our own energy sources (my preference would be advanced nukes) and just leave the likes of Saudi and other energy-rich Islamic nations to bicker amongst themselves rather than interfering endlessly. Might go some way to alleviating the jihadist problem, but it may be that the genie is just out of the bottle.
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Bwave alright bro! When you grow up And find a tramp to give you a kid then you might just understand a bit, nothing stops me from visiting anywhere fool unless it's a medieval hell hole.

In my opinion anyone who takes there kids to the tourist traps of Western Europe is running a risk of getting caught up in an attack that's just a fact! because our leaders fail to keep us safe now go back to listening to little Owen jones on LBC.


The irony of one of the most backwards thinking posters on here calling London, one of the most progressive cities in the world, a medieval hell hole is hilarious.
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I was talking about your "all city's are dangerous" comment!

You sound like your  "all just part of living in a big city" useless mayor, the chances maybe slim but someone will have to die when the next one happens let's hope it's not you eh!
In the meantime let's just carry on as if nothing has happened whilst the enemy whithin plot their next murdurous rampage.

There was a big well documented survey carried out last year that showed the majority of UK muslims want Sharia if that's not dominating then Jeremy Corbyn is an Anglophile.


I don't know where you learned maths but a majority has to be over 50%. So according to this article: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/738852/British-Muslims-Sharia-Law-enforced-UK-Islam-poll 43% of British Muslims want some aspects of Sharia Law to replace some aspects of UK law. Of which only 16% said they strongly supported that view. But yeah, clearly a majority and they're wanting to dominate us.
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Alright Adolf, calm down


I'm no socialist.


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It's more likely that you would die in a car crash (one in 645) than in a terrorist attack (one in 25M). The fact you're not willing to take your kids to places means they're winning.


Well yes they are already winning so much for enough is enough until we get leaders with a backbone this will be and Is now a regular occurrence.


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Who was forced?


Enforced on us the British tax paying public, I don't remember ever being asked if we wanted open door uncontrolled mass immigration.


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Fook me. History didn't being in 2001. Don't know much about your own country do you. I thought you were supposed to be some kind of patriot.


I think it's pretty obvious to even the most basic educated of people that I'm referring to our recent history i.e. In living memory,  not much point in going back to the crusades now is there!


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Well Dubya's Daddy bombed the living crap out of Iraq back in 1990 and a good chunk of the country was invaded then. They weren't daft enough to remove Saddam, probably having the intelligence to realise what a clusterfuck would be left behind. That was just a part of it, however.

Come on Maringer Iraq had already invaded Kuwait and Saudi  Arabia! It was the coalition together in response to that, that drove them back into their hell hole whilst liberating the innocence, Jees give our forces some credit.


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The irony of one of the most backwards thinking posters on here calling London, one of the most progressive cities in the world, a medieval hell hole is hilarious.


Again you have not been paying attention, I call London a shithole not a medieval hell hole, I was referring to places around the world (mainly the backward Muslim countries if I'm honest) the likes of Saudis Arabia etc...
Do keep up.


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