Paddy

Does anybody else think he deserves a go tomorrow? Instead of starting with 2/3 or 3/3 Clay-Brown-Disley. I wouldn't drop Dizza but I think Clay and Brown are too similar and Paddy deserves a chance. He scored a good goal Wednesday and I thought, despite only getting 5 minutes, he injected a bit of sparkle into our attack when he came on v Lincoln. In fact, let's go for the old team for the mtach tomorrow now:

Macca

Parslow-Toto-Pearson-Magnay

McKreth-Clay-Dizza-Paddy

Palmer-LJL (if fit)/JPP


If some of these players are out already, my apologies.

Isn’t the thing with Paddy that his best position is centre-mid?

Must admit I woulld like to see more of him ,in his odd cameos I've liked what I've seen and the guys a footballer .

UTM

I can think of at least one other poster who I'm fairly confident will agree. For me it should be as close to last Saturday's team as possible.

Quoted from pizzzza

Isn’t the thing with Paddy that his best position is centre-mid?

I would agree with this but I couldn't fit him in and didn't want to play 4-3-3. Could go 4-1-3-2 but I prefer the width.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I can think of at least one other poster who I'm fairly confident will agree. For me it should be as close to last Saturday's team as possible.

That's fair. However, when we make a sub ;et's do it with 20-30 mintues to go, not 5-10.

Quoted from Paris Mariner

That's fair. However, when we make a sub ;et's do it with 20-30 mintues to go, not 5-10.

I can understand that the late, late subs frustrates people but I'd prefer it's not pre-empted that they'll be made at any particular point. If we're playing well, winning and everybody still has plenty in the tank then do you want changes made with 20-30 minutes left for the sake of it?

In the event that we were to play a central 3, I'd perhaps give Paddy a chance instead of either Brown or Clay.

In a central 2, I think he's still behind the other 3 in the pecking order.

Regardless, I think Disley needs to be playing if he's fit for both his aerial ability and his goals.

If Disley played the full 2hours on Wednesday,

I would start with Paul and have Dis on the bench and bring him on if needed.

I like Paddy for his creative skills, but he does not win enough tackles. On the other hand Clay is stronger and wins midfield posession better.

Quoted from grimsby pete

If Disley played the full 2hours on Wednesday,

I would start with Paul and have Dis on the bench and bring him on if needed.

Paul?  Have we signed someone else or am I being dim and have missed someone?

Just signed Paulinho on a months loan.

Not for me. And I disagree he added "sparkle" to our attack against Lincoln. He played about 3 minutes and probably touched the ball twice.

I would have him more involved than he has been and give him longer when he comes off the bench. But IMO we should stick with the team that beat Barnet last Saturday. Brown and Disley owned the middle of the park and were first to everything. They deserve another run. Give Paddy half an hour if possible.

I've seen his cracking goal from Wednesday but have no idea how he contributed to the other 119 minutes.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I can understand that the late, late subs frustrates people but I'd prefer it's not pre-empted that they'll be made at any particular point. If we're playing well, winning and everybody still has plenty in the tank then do you want changes made with 20-30 minutes left for the sake of it?

I doesn't have to be pre-empted but at the moment our subs are rubbish. E.g Lincoln at home, 3-1, change it as soon as they score, don't wait until the last 10 like we did. You have nothing to lose at that point.

I'm sorry but I don't think he is good enough.

I don't think it's a coincidence that we smashed Gateshead 6-1 and Alfreton 7-0 during his last sustained run in the team. We were well on top using the same formation against Aldershot before LJL stupidly got himself sent off as well so I really don't understand why Hurst hasn't even attempted to return to the that selection and formation since.

This.

I think Paddy might get his chance tomorrow as Brown is still injured, from the knock he took on the knee last Saturday. Love paddy, great footballer! http://youtu.be/WGhcTBp_n74
Check this link out for a great video montage of paddy when he played for Newcastle reserves!

Quoted from grimsby pete

If Disley played the full 2hours on Wednesday,

I would start with Paul and have Dis on the bench and bring him on if needed.

WHY? I didn't realise the week days had changed order and Saturday comes after Wednesday   He's had 2 FULL days to recover / get back into routine/training.

Why is it that everyone knows he does not like or play best on the left hand side ,, that people keep trying to shoe horn him in to the team.. he is a flipping center mid not a winger/ left sided player... cos if he dont do miracles out there he will get slated as useless or not interested

Why is it that everyone knows he does not like or play best on the left hand side ,, that people keep trying to shoe horn him in to the team.. he is a flipping center mid not a winger/ left sided player... cos if he dont do miracles out there he will get slated as useless or not interested

In my opinion, Paddy can only play in a midfield three like he did at York. He lacks the mentality to win headers or put himself about. I think he is talented, but without the aggression a good central midfielder needs, he is a passenger if we play 4-4-2.

I think he was signed when Scott / Hurst intended to play 4-3-3 but they couldn't make it work.

Quoted from benny_the_docker

I think Paddy might get his chance tomorrow as Brown is still injured, from the knock he took on the knee last Saturday. Love paddy, great footballer! http://youtu.be/WGhcTBp_n74
Check this link out for a great video montage of paddy when he played for Newcastle reserves!

Couple of points.  Easy to make a player look good on YouTube and quite a few of his long rangey cross field passes were relatively easy with no pressure on him, I would expect a player of any basic ability to able to make those.  Some of the clips certainly do show that he appears to have the footballing brain and the technical ability to pull the strings.

That said I think part of the problem with Paddy is that the expectation is that he's the player we've got who can link midfield and attack, perhaps run past the two front men when everything I've seen of him he looks to be more of a deep lying midfielder who wants to pick the ball up deep and try to dictate play.  

I've expressed before that I don't think, based on his performances so far in a Town shirt, that he would be anywhere near the starting eleven with everyone fit and on form.  However the balance element is very important too.  As good as the Barnet display was, we didn't have a natural left sided player on the pitch and at times it showed with the pattern of play somewhat predictable as it from from right to left but rarely left to right.    

It's not just about left and right though, it's just as much about the tempo of the game.   Our midfield looks at its best when the tempo is high, less so when it requires something a bit cuter and more patient.  I think Disley, Clay and to a lesser extent Brown are all decent technically at this level.  Disley and Clay especially have the legs and stamina to run beyond front men and in my opinion should be encouraged to do so more.  Brown is the little terrier dog in that he's there to snap at the heels of opposition players, win the ball back and probably give the ball to someone a bit better on the ball (that's not said as a slur on his game, every team needs a player like this).    What we do lack is a player who will stop the ball 50-40 yards out, look up and see nothing is on so bring it backwards to drag an opposition defence out, pick the ball back up and wait until the opening comes.  Could Paddy be that player?  Possibly. But if he is fitting him in becomes the problem - who do you drop, the legs or the workhorse?  

This division is, in my horse, a case of horses for courses.  There's some games, Barnet is a great example, where you want tenacity so you go Brown and Disley but there should be more than enough games against lesser opposition (especially at home) when we need to realise there's more than one way to skin a cat.  

Surely it's a no brainer. If everyone is fit we should go with the same starting XI that saw off Barnet.

If a professional footballer can't play 3 games in  8 days, then they're in the wrong business.

Quoted from Chrisblor

I don't think it's a coincidence that we smashed Gateshead 6-1 and Alfreton 7-0 during his last sustained run in the team. We were well on top using the same formation against Aldershot before LJL stupidly got himself sent off as well so I really don't understand why Hurst hasn't even attempted to return to the that selection and formation since.

Agree. Situations change, of course, but it does make you wonder if we'll ever give that system another try. It was so offensive and brash and just the kind of approach that blew away a poor side in Alfreton.

I remember a couple of seasons ago when we topped the table at Christmas - Cook and Hannah looked a real partnership, with Neilson cutting in from the left and feeding them both in a pretty ordinary 4-4-2. That was the formula that worked. At that time, Cook began to look the part and Hannah, well, we thought he was the bees knees.

Then January happened. The deal to sign Hannah permanently stalled a bit, in came Brodie, and when Hannah was eventually signed he was benched. Did Scott and Hurst ever return to that Cook/Hannah/Neilson formula again that season?

Barely, if at all.

No, because Neilson had left

Another good contribution from the bench yesterday with an assist from the corner for the second goal and a great effort cutting in left to right that the keeper saved well.
Good on Ross Hannah too for reminding everyone of what he offers.

Quoted from chaos33

Another good contribution from the bench yesterday with an assist from the corner for the second goal and a great effort cutting in left to right that the keeper saved well.
Good on Ross Hannah too for reminding everyone of what he offers.

hate to be picky but it'll go down as toto's assist

If you like. Toto's great header and a good delivery for the corner.