What team for Gateshead?

Would you want the players involved in last couple of games to play next game and improve on performance? Or the players not involved to be given a chance against a decent Conf Prem team?

Personally want the fringe players to be given full game to impress.

Quoted from Fcukthescunts

Would you want the players involved in last couple of games to play next game and improve on performance? Or the players not involved to be given a chance against a decent Conf Prem team?

Personally want the fringe players to be given full game to impress.

Doesn't matter because he won't play them in the next league game. Not bothered anyway because I'm not off

I think the likelihood of Grimsby Town being promoted to the Football league, this year, is small (at this point).

However, the FA Trophy is a distraction that can be lucrative. If Town are serious about winning this trophy, then the management need to convey this to the players, and a side selected to reflect the managements intent.

After that, the supporters can be a great help.

UTM    

Genuinely don't care. No interest whatsoever in fat.
Convinced myself (out of loyalty) to go to Macc game.
Struggling (for the first time in 43 years ) to give a toss.
This bunch of skilled but non motivated so called footballers don't deserve my money or support.

Hurst says we are in it to win it,

So he will play a strong team,

My thoughts are, do not play Toto it will be waste of a booking,

Give Hamish a start and see what he can do,

Play Arnold as punishment

Agree with pete. Do not want us to lose this game, 3 in a row lost at home is not good at all, add to it that its gateshead, admittedly its a distraction from the league but a cup run gets us SOME money ( if we reach those later rounds)

We should play a strong team that includes Neilson, Hannah and Paddy. Time to give those lads a fair crack.

Let's go for rocket science, how about playing the players that played against Gateshead at their place (apart from replacing Boyce!)

i'd go for;
               mckeown
magnay parslow pearson thomas
      clay disley mclaughlin
            neilson
          johnlewis pittman
(with attacking changes if not going well after 30mins!)
subs brown arnold mackreth watson hannah

i expect
                 mckeown
magnay parslow pearson thomas
arnold disley brown mackreth
             johnlewis pittman
subs; bignot clay neilson watson hannah

Draper

Walker
Humble
Parslow
Bignot

Neilson
Paddy
Venney
Winfarrah

Watson
Hannah

Why not go all out attack and see what happens you never know they might surprise you Hursty.

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

Why not go all out attack and see what happens you never know they might surprise you Hursty.

                                                        Macca
                           Arnold     John Lewis       Pearson  Thomas

                        Neilson    Disley         Bemrose       Winfarrah

                                            Watson            Hannah

                                                            

                                                                      

Quoted from Abdul19

Play Arnold as punishment

That made me chuckle

Does anyone know if full price or reduced price v Gateshead in the FAT, and are all stands going to be open?

Quoted from poomehellt

Does anyone know if full price or reduced price v Gateshead in the FAT, and are all stands going to be open?

Don't know about the price but would have thought upper findus will be open as has been done before

Does anyone know if it goes straight to ET and P?

Quoted from poomehellt

Does anyone know if full price or reduced price v Gateshead in the FAT, and are all stands going to be open?

£10 and £5 concessions. All stands open

Quoted from BIGChris

£10 and £5 concessions. All stands open

Might be tempted for a tenner just to see if we get a reaction from the players. Mind you, i tried that with the Macclesfield game and the answer was a resounding no.

I feel very distant from my club at this time.

Quoted from BIGChris

£10 and £5 concessions. All stands open

Cant complain with that, 2 of the better teams in the league, could be half decent.

play this team:

                     Macca
Bignot   Parslow  Toto  Thomas
Nielson  Disley  McLaughlin  Winfarrah
                  Watson  Hannah

Play Toto, he just missed 2 games and game time will be good.

Disley should of been rested in this game rather than Macclesfield (if that was the case)

         Edit: Changed my mind, we should give  Palmer his debut and some game time, also give LJL and Diz a breather

                McKeown
Magnay Toto Pearson Thomas
Arnold Brown Clay Paddy
            Palmer Hannah

One last chance for Arnold to impress before we cancel his loan
      

I don't like the idea of Toto playing because of all the yellow cards he picks up,

Does anybody know when the next suspension kicks in,

15 yellows =  3 game ban ?

If he is to pick up anymore yellows , let them be in the league.

4-3-3:

             McKeown
Bignot  Toto  Pearson  Magnay
      Brown  Clay  Disley
     LJL  Palmer  Pittman

I realise the game isn't exactly an important one, but we're not playing for a while so worth giving the first-teamers a run out. Also giving the new lad a chance to play with his teammates.

I'm of the view that Thomas could do with a break as his recent form has been poor. Perhaps not fully into the swing of things following his injury? Anyway, I think Bignot has performed adequately in the past game and a half so bringing him in is reasonable and we know Magnay is capable on the left.

Any of the midfield 3 could be replaced by Paddy as I don't think there is much between them all. Disley is stronger in the air and has goals in him, however, so probably better to leave him in.

Both Pittman and LJL have played wide during their careers and will work hard so I think those two up front alongside the new lad could be a useful forward line.

I would try 1 or 2 changes (not wholesale) to see how they adapt into the first team

                 McKeown
Walker Toto Pearson Magnay
Neilson Paddy Brown Winfarrah
             LJL Palmer

Watson, Disley, Parslow, Macketh, Pittman

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Cant complain with that, 2 of the better teams in the league, could be half decent.

play this team:

                     Macca
Bignot   Parslow  Toto  Thomas
Nielson  Disley  McLaughlin  Winfarrah
                  Watson  Hannah

Play Toto, he just missed 2 games and game time will be good.

Disley should of been rested in this game rather than Macclesfield (if that was the case)

I'm pretty sure that Hurst said Diz didn't play against Macc because of an illness (stomach complaint?)

Judging by the signing of a 6ft 5 target man, it indicates to me that we will not be playing intricate football in the final third, so i would try;

                                                                  Macca

                     Magnay               Pearson                 Toto                      Thomas

                                                   Clay                        Disley

                                                               Neilson

                               Pittman                   Palmer                  LJL


My thinking behind this is that our so called widemen/wingers have been largely ineffective this season, rarely taking full backs on and getting behind the opposition, so we may as well go long (it can be effective with the right personal and formation) obviously this formation depends on Palmer being half decent and winning his fair share- i reckon Neilson with his shooting ability playing in a free role off those three would bag us a dozen goals before seasons end..
For  opposition that play to shut up shop with little attacking intent you can use Magnay and Thomas as out and out wing backs, in effect making it a 2-4-1-3 formation.  

Just an idea, i'm sure many will disagree.      

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

I'm pretty sure that Hurst said Diz didn't play against Macc because of an illness (stomach complaint?)

if so then fair enough, but Disley is fast becoming an important player again in my eyes and him and Clay make a good partnership.

Disley is more attacking and Clay is more Defending

Couldn't give a excrement about the team, but think the gate will be well below 1k

Quoted from petethemariner

Just an idea, i'm sure many will disagree.      

That formation is basically a 4-2-4 so the defence will have little in the way of any cover from the two midfielders.

Trying to recreate the 6-5 victory over Burnley which we have discussed on the board recently?  

McKeown

Bignot
Pearson
Parslow
Winfarrah

Neilson
Clay
Paddy
Arnold

Palmer
Watson

Quoted from Maringer

That formation is basically a 4-2-4 so the defence will have little in the way of any cover from the two midfielders.

Trying to recreate the 6-5 victory over Burnley which we have discussed on the board recently?  

No. disagree with that analysis completely, in what way is Neilson playing behind a front 3 playing 4 up front?
He would  be expected to do his fair share of midfield work when the opponents had the ball, as would Pittman
and LJL out wide, none of them would have a pass to stand there pickling their  respective noses  when
the opposition had the ball!

Meant to add that  IMO our wide midfielders/wingers are playing as little  more than auxillary full backs in Hurst's  ultra
cautious approach  and until they  start to offer some attacking threat  there is little point in them being there.

Quoted from petethemariner

Meant to add that  IMO our wide midfielders/wingers are playing as little  more than auxillary full backs in Hurst's  ultra
cautious approach  and until they  start to offer some attacking threat  there is little point in them being there.

If the above is true in that we have little attacking threat, then how have we had the most efforts on goal in the division( or very close to the most)?

Don't get me wrong I would like to see more runners from midfield, particularly the central areas, were someone could get beyond the strikers but for the last couple of weeks all I have read on here( not picking on you specifically) is that we never create any chances and are the most boring side in living memory, when the fact of efforts on goal seem to suggest creating opportunities isn't a major issue.

It seems to me that some have created a self fulfilling prophecy, in that the more times you post how bad we are the populous start to believe?

Football is about very fine margins

Quoted from petethemariner

No. disagree with that analysis completely, in what way is Neilson playing behind a front 3 playing 4 up front?
He would  be expected to do his fair share of midfield work when the opponents had the ball, as would Pittman
and LJL out wide, none of them would have a pass to stand there pickling their  respective noses  when
the opposition had the ball!

Neilson isn't really known for his defensive work. Understandably so, as he's an attacking player.

I've got no problem playing him behind a front two as that still leaves three midfielders to cover in behind but just two not particularly nippy midfielders behind him? Any team competent on the counter-attack would cause us no end of problems with that formation.

I remember back in the day that Lincoln (under Big Keith) used to play a sort of 4-2-4 formation, but this was because they had little use for midfield and spent most of the game punting the ball towards the corners with their big, agressive attackers pushing the opposition defence back as deep as possible.

Quoted from BIGChris

If the above is true in that we have little attacking threat, then how have we had the most efforts on goal in the division( or very close to the most)?

Don't get me wrong I would like to see more runners from midfield, particularly the central areas, were someone could get beyond the strikers but for the last couple of weeks all I have read on here( not picking on you specifically) is that we never create any chances and are the most boring side in living memory, when the fact of efforts on goal seem to suggest creating opportunities isn't a major issue.

It seems to me that some have created a self fulfilling prophecy, in that the more times you post how bad we are the populous start to believe?


Football is about very fine margins

I'm not sure on the attempts at goal stats Chris, you might well be right,but you cannot honestly be suggesting that our wide
players are effective? I believe you, like me are an ex player  and we both know that the best way to hurt an opponent is to get
behind their defence on the flanks and whip the ball across (as Lincoln did twice to us) but how often do we do that?  I am not particularly a long ball fan ,but there is a place for it in any game and as the manager seems to like to see the ball launched into the box, i was trying to suggest a formation that would suit this style more effectively.
I accept that this type of formation would require Pittman, LJL and Neilson to put a shift in when we didn't have the ball and
Maringers point about being caught on the break is a fair one and is  why Clay and Disley should play as holding. midfielders, which
basically is all they are doing now for the most part.
Its not a question of trying to make people believe how bad we are, obviously we must be doing somethings right cause we are
4th in the league, its about trying to suggest something and a formation that might take us that next step and back into the league,
i personally  feel this isn't likely as things stand.
Its all about opinions and we all have one, but in the end we all want the same thing - a successful GTFC not 'nearly men' which is
the present trend.
UTM

They haven't had a game for a while so pick our strongest side. If the game was sandwich between 3-4 games in the space of 7-10 days then i'd play the reserves.

I know Hurst has said he play a strong side in this cup competition but I still feel he should play a weakened side and give reserve, fringe players and some youths a chance. League has to be our priority and we cant afford any injury's

Quoted from Rick12

I know Hurst has said he play a strong side in this cup competition but I still feel he should play a weakened side and give reserve, fringe players and some youths a chance. League has to be our priority and we cant afford any injury's

Disagree. Injuries can happen to any player at any time and we don't have a heavy schedule at the moment, so keep the best players ticking over in my view.

Hurst takes this competition seriously and rightly or wrongly wants to win it. I expect the club can do with the extra revenue too, if we go far.

We need the win at home for confidence, so strongest team possible. Otherwise not bothered about FAT but we haven't had many games recently so the players need the game time.

He's got to play a pretty experienced team. Otherwise, by the time we have our next game, it will have been more than two weeks since they have played!

Quoted from Maringer

He's got to play a pretty experienced team. Otherwise, by the time we have our next game, it will have been more than two weeks since they have played!

Exactly.

Some suggest Toto should be left out today. That would mean by the time we meet Barnet he wont have played for more than 3 weeks. That makes no sense to me.

I hope Palmer gets a start, Toto & Magnay to start too after that i arent too bothered but wouldnt be surprised to see 3 central midfielders