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arryarryarry
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Nah. I still think we will make the play-offs. Tend to doubt we will be good enough to go up though, based on tonight's non-performance against another of the 'weaker' teams in the division.

Personally, I'm not a fan of changing manager mid-season as it rarely works out. For every one that does, you get many more that don't. I thought it an error when Woods eventually went and Scott and Hurst arrived. Woods needed to go, but there was no reason not to wait until the summer for that move as we were on a hiding to nothing with that team. We're painfully inconsistent at the moment, but I wouldn't like to see a change unless things take a turn drastically for the worse.

Just listened to the post-match interview which was pretty sensible as usual. However, I thought Hurst was much too kind to the players. Without naming names, he could certainly have been a lot more critical of the performance. It is fine to note that you get poor performances from time to time, but I reckon giving the players a rocket when they've been that bad is more than deserved. Perhaps he's just being too nice without the Scott to play the bad cop role?


God knows why you would think that was a sensible interview, we all saw that it was sh!t, he should have come out and said so and made it clear that he will not accept another performance like that again , but unfortunately he hasn't got the balls.

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I wonder whether Luton and Mansfield's fans were talking about "consistency" as a reason for sacking their managers after they had their slow starts ?
For me, there's every chance we can get on a winning run at some point.
If we win 7 on the trot 20 games into the season, it's fine by me.
Stick.

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A new man at the helm if chosen carefully would create an atmosphere where non now exsists

Are you sure fans won't just look at results ?
Without wanting to be negative, what if we change and things don't improve ?

All that concerns me is whether Hurst will EVER have the fans support no matter how well he does.
Some have been suggesting for a while (irrespective of tonight) that he will never win the fans over.
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God knows why you would think that was a sensible interview, we all saw that it was sh!t, he should have come out and said so and made it clear that he will not accept another performance like that again , but unfortunately he hasn't got the balls.



Name one thing said in that interview which wasn't sensible.
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Name one thing said in that interview which wasn't sensible.


Ooooh this should be good!!!


I have an inferiority complex-It's not a very good one though.
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God knows why you would think that was a sensible interview, we all saw that it was sh!t, he should have come out and said so and made it clear that he will not accept another performance like that again , but unfortunately he hasn't got the balls.



That's what I thought too.


"You should do what you love while you can"
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Name one thing said in that interview which wasn't sensible.


It probably was sensible and considered but fans didn't want that. They want to hear what he is going to do about it and how unacceptable performances like that are. What we got is the usual Hurst platitudes.

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Truth be told, after sleeping on it, I'm more concerned about the season than I was last night. This doesn't change my view that swapping managers willy-nilly during the season is a bad idea. I still remember that when Groves was sacked we were a few points above the relegation spots and Nicky Law duly showed what can happen when a new manager is brought in.

However, until last night, I just didn't think that our current squad had it in them to give as bad a performance as that. I thought that one or two of the team at least would be able to raise their games to lift the team to be merely bad instead of completely awful, but apparently not. You would have thought that Brown ought to have been the one leading the way and getting things moving but all he did last night was get himself needlessly booked.

Just waiting for the inevitable, "We know we weren't good but promise we will be better next time" interviews from the players in the Telewag.

As for Hurst, he's just got to do something about the balance of the squad. Having just 3 strikers (one an almost untested youngster on loan) in the squad is just not enough. Having just 2 wingers in the squad is not enough. Arnold is perhaps expected to be the extra striker/winger in the mix, but he shows no signs of being fit enough to play more than ten minutes every couple of weeks at present.

If Hurst was looking for another striker before the transfer window closed and before Pittman became injured, why hasn't he got another one in since then?

This is what last night's rubbish performance shows - no options in the attacking positions when everyone is playing poorly. Hurst needs to sort this out as soon as possible.
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Twist. This season was about having a proper go at the title and we're way, way short. It's staggering. Only my second time at the Park tonight and couldn't believe how abject and devoid of ideas we looked.

Hurst fills me with absolutely no confidence tactically and in the transfer market.

I'd give Ronnie Moore a chance. Experience grafter with something to prove. Has had success at ugly, unfashionable clubs and the FA investigation that undid his fantastic work at Tranmere was proven to be a shambles (sacked over a £2 accy ffs).


Good man Alfie , I got right royally slated end of last season for mentioning Ronnies name . Motivation , someone available who has done it before . No guarantees , but nothing is certain , only certain thing is we are going no where fast at this moment in time .
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Truth be told, after sleeping on it, I'm more concerned about the season than I was last night. This doesn't change my view that swapping managers willy-nilly during the season is a bad idea. I still remember that when Groves was sacked we were a few points above the relegation spots and Nicky Law duly showed what can happen when a new manager is brought in.

However, until last night, I just didn't think that our current squad had it in them to give as bad a performance as that. I thought that one or two of the team at least would be able to raise their games to lift the team to be merely bad instead of completely awful, but apparently not. You would have thought that Brown ought to have been the one leading the way and getting things moving but all he did last night was get himself needlessly booked.

Just waiting for the inevitable, "We know we weren't good but promise we will be better next time" interviews from the players in the Telewag.

As for Hurst, he's just got to do something about the balance of the squad. Having just 3 strikers (one an almost untested youngster on loan) in the squad is just not enough. Having just 2 wingers in the squad is not enough. Arnold is perhaps expected to be the extra striker/winger in the mix, but he shows no signs of being fit enough to play more than ten minutes every couple of weeks at present.

If Hurst was looking for another striker before the transfer window closed and before Pittman became injured, why hasn't he got another one in since then?

This is what last night's rubbish performance shows - no options in the attacking positions when everyone is playing poorly. Hurst needs to sort this out as soon as possible.


That coming from you is a damming post I agree with what you say regarding our striking force or lack of it,  IMO having had time to think I would twist and take the risk because sticking with  the unpopular Hurst will only escalate a division in the customers which will eventually effect the players.
The place was like a morgue last night with no sound of a Paul Hurst`s Black and White Army, not many sane people will pay to watch that crap
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That coming from you is a damming post I agree with what you say regarding our striking force or lack of it,  IMO having had time to think I would twist and take the risk because sticking with  the unpopular Hurst will only escalate a division in the customers which will eventually effect the players.
The place was like a morgue last night with no sound of a Paul Hurst`s Black and White Army, not many sane people will pay to watch that crap


Agreed.

Watch the gate rise by a good few hundred once PH goes.

I don't see him as the man to take us forward. Everyone who sits around me don't. I'd say that poll of 70% is quite fair.

Question for you all. Look at how Chester tried to play on Saturday. Give Steve Burr  our squad would he have a better chance of taking us up?

I think PH would be a good defensive coach or even assistant. I just don't think his reactive enough or has the ruthless mannerism (no real evidence to back that statement up)

Making a chance in the coming weeks would give the new man time to assess what he needs to strengthen before the window in Jan. My worry is all season PH keep buying his time and then in the summer everyone will say give him a chance new season new players etc.

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