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immariner
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I think if the first booking was for dissent that LJL should be internally punished. It's unacceptable and no doubt cost us at least a point. Once you get booked so early for such a daft thing, you run the risk of an over-zealous referee finding a way to get you off the pitch.
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I think if the first booking was for dissent that LJL should be internally punished. It's unacceptable and no doubt cost us at least a point. Once you get booked so early for such a daft thing, you run the risk of an over-zealous referee finding a way to get you off the pitch.


But it wasn't!!
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Probably only be 2 pts come 5pm Saturday.
Think we all know it's been dire early season injury's + urine poor ref today.
Performances are good !
Anyway I'm leaving in optimistic mood tonight before the doomsday brigade take over.  
See ya later.


It's one thing to be optimistic about our chances of winning, but to expect the others to lose too.......


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But it wasn't!!


What was it for?
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I (and anyone else) can make whatever point and take whatever stance I wish without your approval, especially when you post the vast amount of rambling, one dimensional, non committal dross that you do, ok.

I never claimed otherwise but likewise, I can do the same.

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I think the majority of Town fans, whether they wanted him to have another go this season or not, are behind Hurst and feel he should be given a fair chance (at least 10 games or more?) this season.

Agreed.
Like I said, it's just a shame they didn't allow him at least 10 games before.
Sorry if you're uncomfortable with those facts but it's all your own doing and was your own choice.

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I don't know who the f*ck you think you are to declare the odds on credibility!

There are those who had faith in Hurst, didn't see or want "the end" after 3 games (or earlier like you) and IMO can take some credit (or credibility in their view moving forward) for being "supportive" of his role and his potential as manager this season.

You can swear and stamp your foot all day long but that's my opinion.

Despite your childish ramblings about "destroying" people, what you don't seem to appreciate is you can't "dismantle" someone's else's opinion, only disagree with it.

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advocates a rotation policy that proposed a cartload of changes to the team that beat Gateshead

Like it or not, squad rotation (including bringing Neilson into the team) was arguably a big factor in the Gateshead win.

I don't ever recall ever saying you were a "never change a winning team" man (only guessing), but without blame, can confirm you picked (with much arguable prodding) the same side that lost at Aldershot.

As for my fishy "reputation" on here, it doesn't bother me one jot.
I'd say the vast majority of opinion on the fishy (especially the keyboard warrior doomsday brigade) isn't particluarly representative of general fan mood anyway and home attendances also seem to confirm it.

Like I said before, if you wish to ignor me because of you own issues or sudden reading difficulties/preferences etc it's completely fine by me.
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It's one thing to be optimistic about our chances of winning, but to expect the others to lose too.......

Good point I forgot about that, we can but hope...
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What was it for?


According to the referee after the game it was for persistent infringement of the laws
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Like many others I was listening to the match and it was clear very early that the ref had took a personal dislike for LJL and was just looking for anything he could to book him. Why ? ... he's human and all of us have done this at some point but a ref should be above that sort of thing.I have to say this because the only other conclusion is sordid and we have to be careful about accusations of deliberate fixing. One thing for sure his tally for giving out cards is pretty high  as Mr Whitton has refereed 109 Conference matches and notched up 300 yellows and 17 reds.His record for other leagues and cup matches are equally poor as well. I believe this tells you a lot about the mans character and again begs the question of some of the referees suitability.
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Like many others I was listening to the match and it was clear very early that the ref had took a personal dislike for LJL and was just looking for anything he could to book him. Why ? ... he's human and all of us have done this at some point but a ref should be above that sort of thing.I have to say this because the only other conclusion is sordid and we have to be careful about accusations of deliberate fixing. One thing for sure his tally for giving out cards is pretty high  as Mr Whitton has refereed 109 Conference matches and notched up 300 yellows and 17 reds.His record for other leagues and cup matches are equally poor as well. I believe this tells you a lot about the mans character and again begs the question of some of the referees suitability.


Unfortunately referee's are human beings, just like the rest of us, we all have individual characters and flaws, from the commentary on Saturday it was very clear from the early exchanges that the ref was very picky and was blowing for very little, Hurst commented that he said as much to the fourth official,  that should give an indication to anyone involved in the game that the ref was "one of those" if you like.
So by arguing and showing dissent over several decisions, as well as persistent fouling by LJL, which the ref did pull him over and speak to him about before his first booking then surely the large percentage of fault lies with the player?
He may well be a poor referee but if we dont help ourselves, Pearson & Mckeown also booked for petulant behaviour later in the game then we should expect to receive cards.
I wonder if the club do any research or notes on the referees before a game?
Slightly different but on Sunday mornings when you see a refs name for your game you have a good idea what type of game you may get and what they do and dont tolerate.


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Unfortunately referee's are human beings, just like the rest of us, we all have individual characters and flaws, from the commentary on Saturday it was very clear from the early exchanges that the ref was very picky and was blowing for very little, Hurst commented that he said as much to the fourth official,  that should give an indication to anyone involved in the game that the ref was "one of those" if you like.
So by arguing and showing dissent over several decisions, as well as persistent fouling by LJL, which the ref did pull him over and speak to him about before his first booking then surely the large percentage of fault lies with the player?
He may well be a poor referee but if we dont help ourselves, Pearson & Mckeown also booked for petulant behaviour later in the game then we should expect to receive cards.
I wonder if the club do any research or notes on the referees before a game?
Slightly different but on Sunday mornings when you see a refs name for your game you have a good idea what type of game you may get and what they do and dont tolerate.



I know that when Don Revie was manager at Leeds he kept a dossier for every League referee and instructed his team before each game on how to play to the refs strengths and weaknesses.
At the end of the day the ref is the man in charge and whether you agree with him or not he runs the game. Of all the things to get booked for dissent is the most ridiculous. Accept his decision and just get on with it because refs very,very rarely change their mind about an incident and the dissent laws are there to allow the ref to do his job AS HE SEES IT without question. This is one of Pearsons biggest problems and could easily cost us at the end of the season like it did at the end of last season. By all means keep the passion, Sean, but if things don't go your way just accept it and move on.


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