Are we good enough.

Quoted from Marinerz93

I would confidently put us up against if we were in the same league and position Swindon (who are top and only lost one game at home all season) and Carlilse (6th in league 1 but averaging under 5,000).  Notts County are averaging just over 6,500 so not much bigger.

There is currently around five teams whose gates are above the figure we are capable of getting for a decent league 1 side, they are
Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United, Charlton, Huddersfield, MK Dons (Av 8,000) and considering they are all at the top of league it stands to reason that they won't be in League 1 by the time we get back there in a few seasons time.

Bradford's gate numbers leave a lot to be desired, do they automatically say all their season ticket members are at the game.  Before they hit the prem they weren't much bigger than Town.

But we averaged 5,000 in the championship. Its all well and good saying we could get these gates but history shows that we didn't and we probably won't if we do get back up there. The last time we were half decent in Slade's second season we averaged about 5,000 but that was only bumped up by the last few games being sell outs.

Swindon are averaging 8,000 and there is no way we would do that even if we were top of L2.

Quoted from mariner91

But we averaged 5,000 in the championship. Its all well and good saying we could get these gates but history shows that we didn't and we probably won't if we do get back up there. The last time we were half decent in Slade's second season we averaged about 5,000 but that was only bumped up by the last few games being sell outs.

Swindon are averaging 8,000 and there is no way we would do that even if we were top of L2.

If you are quoting history, when Grimsby was a successful Town our highest average was 18,000.  The Town gate has dropped from over 10,000 from when I first started going to around 5,000.  As the town delcined so did the gates.  People didn't like Slades side even though it got results, it's common knowledge that people used to cite the style of play as a reason why they didn't go.  Swindon from 2003-2006 were averaging 5,000 so again I wouldn't say there were as big a club as you hold them.

If you look at our league position in the respective leagues we were in we are often below mid table.  In Swindons case they are mainly in the top half.  Grimsby could become a boom Town again with the off shore renewables and the benefits that would bring to the area.  As in any case there are a lot of variables when picking the bones out of who we can compare our selves with.  

Don't forget the cost of watching games. These days, it is much more expensive than in the past.

Also don't forget that there is loads of televised footy these days compared to our Halcyon days. Not to mention that there are now many more leisure activities available whereas in the past, footy was pretty much it!

Quoted from Marinerz93

If you are quoting history, when Grimsby was a successful Town our highest average was 18,000. The Town gate has dropped from over 10,000 from when I first started going to around 5,000.  As the town delcined so did the gates.  People didn't like Slades side even though it got results, it's common knowledge that people used to cite the style of play as a reason why they didn't go.  Swindon from 2003-2006 were averaging 5,000 so again I wouldn't say there were as big a club as you hold them.

If you look at our league position in the respective leagues we were in we are often below mid table.  In Swindons case they are mainly in the top half.  Grimsby could become a boom Town again with the off shore renewables and the benefits that would bring to the area.  As in any case there are a lot of variables when picking the bones out of who we can compare our selves with.  

The AVERAGE gate for the last two spells we had at Championship level was no higher than 7500. Unfortunately in this present day you need a higher average gate to compete at that level. Without other income streams if we managed to get to that level we would soon fall back as we wouldn't be able to afford the wages demanded by players of that standard. a harsh reality but unfortunately true. Without a major resurgance in the area and a new ground the best we can do is mid to high 1st Division.

Quoted from rancido

The AVERAGE gate for the last two spells we had at Championship level was no higher than 7500. Unfortunately in this present day you need a higher average gate to compete at that level. Without other income streams if we managed to get to that level we would soon fall back as we wouldn't be able to afford the wages demanded by players of that standard. a harsh reality but unfortunately true. Without a major resurgance in the area and a new ground the best we can do is mid to high 1st Division.

mid to high in the 1st Division - well I would certainly settle for that!!!!!!!!

Quoted from rancido

The AVERAGE gate for the last two spells we had at Championship level was no higher than 7500. Unfortunately in this present day you need a higher average gate to compete at that level. Without other income streams if we managed to get to that level we would soon fall back as we wouldn't be able to afford the wages demanded by players of that standard. a harsh reality but unfortunately true. Without a major resurgance in the area and a new ground the best we can do is mid to high 1st Division.

I agree with what you say, especially the part about other income streams.  Hopefully the renewables sector will take off and go some way to help us move forward.