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There is an article in tomorrows edition of NLP from Stu Hammond with John Fenty.
Maybe interesting after the recent article he wrote abour Rob Scott
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Only until we get back up, though.
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There is a good argument that the same amount of promotion/relegation places should be a standard across the pyramid but in reality that won't happen...If the cretin Scudamore had his way the premier league wouldn't do relegation and i am sure the teams down the bottom on league 2 in particular much prefer only 2 going down...
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Steve_gtfc |
February 12, 2012, 11:23am |
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There is a good argument that the same amount of promotion/relegation places should be a standard across the pyramid but in reality that won't happen...If the cretin Scudamore had his way the premier league wouldn't do relegation and i am sure the teams down the bottom on league 2 in particular much prefer only 2 going down...
Agree with what you are saying. The whole promotion and relegation system has never made sense to me. Why do 4 come down from L1 and four go up from L2 when only 3 go up and down between L1 and Championship. How this then changes to two for our leage and L2 doesn't make sense to me as there appears to be no obvious logic to it.
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February 12, 2012, 2:51pm |
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It's seen as the ultimate punishment relegation out of the football league! The way finances are more n more ex league clubs will fill this league within the next 4 seasons, no part time teams will be able to compete against clubs with larger fan bases n income revenue streams that are double or triple some current clubs ie Bath, Hayes n Y! Those that don't have backers n try to compete will end up like Rushden or Kettering! Harsh I know but it's reality n it's happening!
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lukeo |
February 13, 2012, 3:03pm |
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It should be top 2 up bottom 2 down from each division and 3rd from bottom have a play off v's 3rd from top of the league below I'm only 23 so I wasn't around then but didn't something similar used to happen?
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80sglory |
February 13, 2012, 4:21pm |
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Seems part of the problem with the BSP is the gap between big league teams coming down all queuing up to get back out and the smaller clubs with amateur status (some more than happy to stay amateur so I 've heard).
Is there be a case for an improved BSP or "League 3 ?"
Team P W D L F A W D L F A PTS GD Grimsby 31 10 0 0 43 20 21 0 0 56 0 93 79 Plymouth 31 11 5 6 17 21 7 3 10 14 31 68 20 Luton 31 10 3 3 33 10 6 8 1 26 17 63 32 Macclesfield 31 9 6 4 17 13 3 0 10 9 21 60 8 Dag & Red 30 9 1 9 20 26 3 2 9 9 23 59 20 Bradford 30 9 4 5 23 19 4 5 7 9 19 57 6 Fleetwood Town 31 8 6 1 32 17 5 1 2 37 18 56 34 Hereford 31 6 3 10 14 31 3 6 4 14 15 55 18 York 31 8 4 3 35 17 6 8 2 27 16 55 29 Wrexham 30 12 2 2 32 10 9 3 2 23 9 54 36 Kidderminster 31 7 6 2 30 19 8 2 6 27 24 53 14 Southport 31 6 5 4 22 29 9 2 5 26 24 52 -5 Northampton 30 6 4 9 15 31 4 2 8 18 26 51 -24 Gateshead 31 6 7 3 28 23 8 2 5 22 22 51 -5 Mansfield 30 7 5 3 28 19 5 8 2 19 15 49 -13 Cambridge Utd 30 8 4 3 23 10 5 6 4 17 17 49 -13 Barrow 31 9 4 2 28 13 4 2 10 20 34 45 -1 Forest Green 31 5 5 6 21 19 5 7 3 20 11 42 -11 Braintree Town 31 8 4 4 29 24 4 2 9 22 31 42 -4 Tamworth 30 6 4 4 22 18 4 4 8 16 28 38 -8 Ebbsfleet United31 5 5 6 25 24 4 5 6 21 25 37 -3 Lincoln City 31 5 4 6 17 17 3 2 11 14 28 30 -14 Stockport 33 4 6 7 23 26 1 8 7 14 29 29 -18 Darlington 31 7 4 5 16 13 3 4 8 16 26 28 -27
The above table includes 6 extra league teams without the current bottom 6 in the BSP.
If you chopped down the Championship, L1 and L2 to 22 from 24 teams (surely they want less football being played ?) you could let the bottom 6 league teams drop out (over time),
My question is, would you then have a more viable "product" for TV that the powers that be might consider ? Or not ?
PS Don't pick at the league table - it's wrong ! Just giving an idea of what it might look like if it ever happened...
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February 13, 2012, 5:25pm |
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Since the introduction of automatic promotion from non-league to the football league more and more "traditional " League clubs have been relegated. It was inevitable that they would not get rid of their full-time structures immediately with the resulting financial hardships. It also meant that a lot of the semi-pro outfits could realistically higher their horizons and for once contemplate league and full time status. This could only be good for the game in general . I do agree with JF's statement that the parachute payment for dropping out of the league could be increased and extended. I also think that the present two up from the BSP doesn't go far enough and there is certainly a strong argument that it should be at least three up to bring it into line with the rest of the Football League relegations/promotions. The whole League pyramid has become unbalanced as regards relegations/promotions and should be the same for all the leagues.
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If the cretin Scudamore had his way the premier league wouldn't do relegation...
Don't agree with that at all. Part of the Premier League's attraction at the end of the season is 'Survival Sunday'; a bottom 13 with nothing whatsoever to play for for months on end would kill a lot of interest. I also doubt he'd want Wigan stuck in the top flight for eternity.
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