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siy2k5
February 9, 2012, 7:26pm
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There's lies, damn lies, and statistics!

What those stats don't show, is that England were a complete shambles in the only tournament Capello took us to. For thisreason he was only marginally better than the wally with the brolly.


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18/11/1998 England 02002 - 0 Czech Republic International Match Win
1998101414/10/1998 Luxembourg 03000 - 3 England European Championship, 2000 Holland & Belgium, Regional Stages Win
1998101010/10/1998 England 00000 - 0 Bulgaria European Championship, 2000 Holland & Belgium, Regional Stages Draw
1998090505/09/1998 Sweden 01022 - 1 England European Championship, 2000 Holland & Belgium, Regional Stages Loss
1998063030/06/1998 Argentina 02022 - 2
(4 - 3) England World Cup, 1998 France, Finals Loss on penalties
1998062626/06/1998 Colombia 02000 - 2 England World Cup, 1998 France, Finals Win
1998062222/06/1998 Romania 01022 - 1 England World Cup, 1998 France, Finals Loss
1998061515/06/1998 Tunisia 02000 - 2 England World Cup, 1998 France, Finals Win
1998052929/05/1998 Belgium 00000 - 0
(4 - 3) England Friendly Tournaments, King Hassan II Cup Loss on penalties
1998052727/05/1998 Morocco 01000 - 1 England Friendly Tournaments, King Hassan II Cup Win
1998052323/05/1998 England 00000 - 0 Saudi Arabia International Match Draw
1998042222/04/1998 England 03003 - 0 Portugal International Match Win
1998032525/03/1998 Switzerland 01011 - 1 England International Match Draw
1998021111/02/1998 England 00020 - 2 Chile International Match Loss
1997111515/11/1997 England 02002 - 0 Cameroon International Match Win
1997101111/10/1997 Italy 00000 - 0 England World Cup, 1998 France, Regional Stages Draw
1997091010/09/1997 England 04004 - 0 Moldova World Cup, 1998 France, Regional Stages Win
1997061010/06/1997 Brazil 00011 - 0 England Friendly Tournaments, Le Tournoi 97 Loss
1997060707/06/1997 France 01000 - 1 England Friendly Tournaments, Le Tournoi 97 Win
1997060404/06/1997 Italy 02000 - 2 England Friendly Tournaments, Le Tournoi 97 Win
1997053131/05/1997 Poland 02000 - 2 England World Cup, 1998 France, Regional Stages Win
1997052424/05/1997 England 02012 - 1 South Africa International Match Win
1997043030/04/1997 England 02002 - 0 Georgia World Cup, 1998 France, Regional Stages Win
1997032929/03/1997 England 02002 - 0 Mexico International Match Win
1997021212/02/1997 England 00010 - 1 Italy World Cup, 1998 France, Regional Stages Loss
1996110909/11/1996 Georgia 02000 - 2 England World Cup, 1998 France, Regional Stages Win
1996100909/10/1996 England 02012 - 1 Poland World Cup, 1998 France, Regional Stages Win
1996090101/09/1996 Moldova 03000 - 3 England World Cup, 1998 France, Regional Stages Win
1996062626/06/1996 England 01011 - 1
(5 - 6) Germany European Championship, 1996 England, Finals Loss on penalties
1996062222/06/1996 England 00000 - 0
(4 - 2) Spain European Championship, 1996 England, Finals Win on penalties
1996061818/06/1996 England 04014 - 1 Holland European Championship, 1996 England, Finals Win
1996061515/06/1996 England 02002 - 0 Scotland European Championship, 1996 England, Finals Win
1996060808/06/1996 England 01011 - 1 Switzerland European Championship, 1996 England, Finals Draw
1996052323/05/1996 China 03000 - 3 England International Match Win
1996051818/05/1996 England 03003 - 0 Hungary International Match Win


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February 9, 2012, 7:36pm

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01/07/2006 England 00000 - 0
(1 - 3) Portugal World Cup, 2006 Germany, Finals Loss on penalties
2006062525/06/2006 England 01001 - 0 Ecuador World Cup, 2006 Germany, Finals Win
2006062020/06/2006 Sweden 02022 - 2 England World Cup, 2006 Germany, Finals Draw
2006061515/06/2006 England 02002 - 0 Trinidad & Tobago World Cup, 2006 Germany, Finals Win
2006061010/06/2006 England 01001 - 0 Paraguay World Cup, 2006 Germany, Finals Win
2006060303/06/2006 England 06006 - 0 Jamaica International Match Win
2006053030/05/2006 England 03013 - 1 Hungary International Match Win
2006030101/03/2006 England 02012 - 1 Uruguay International Match Win
2005111212/11/2005 England 03023 - 2 Argentina International Match Win
2005101212/10/2005 England 02012 - 1 Poland World Cup, 2006 Germany, Regional Stages Win
2005100808/10/2005 England 01001 - 0 Austria World Cup, 2006 Germany, Regional Stages Win
2005090707/09/2005 Northern Ireland 00011 - 0 England World Cup, 2006 Germany, Regional Stages Loss
2005090303/09/2005 Wales 01000 - 1 England World Cup, 2006 Germany, Regional Stages Win
2005081717/08/2005 Denmark 01044 - 1 England International Match Loss
2005053131/05/2005 England 03023 - 2 Colombia International Match Win
2005052828/05/2005 USA 02011 - 2 England International Match Win
2005033030/03/2005 England 02002 - 0 Azerbaijan World Cup, 2006 Germany, Regional Stages Win
2005032626/03/2005 England 04004 - 0 Northern Ireland World Cup, 2006 Germany, Regional Stages Win
2005020909/02/2005 England 00000 - 0 Holland International Match Draw
2004111717/11/2004 Spain 00011 - 0 England International Match Loss
2004101313/10/2004 Azerbaijan 01000 - 1 England World Cup, 2006 Germany, Regional Stages Win
2004100909/10/2004 England 02002 - 0 Wales World Cup, 2006 Germany, Regional Stages Win
2004090808/09/2004 Poland 02011 - 2 England World Cup, 2006 Germany, Regional Stages Win
2004090404/09/2004 Austria 02022 - 2 England World Cup, 2006 Germany, Regional Stages Draw
2004081818/08/2004 England 03003 - 0 Ukraine International Match Win
2004062424/06/2004 Portugal 01011 - 1
(6 - 5) England European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Finals Loss on penalties
2004062121/06/2004 Croatia 04022 - 4 England European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Finals Win
2004061717/06/2004 Switzerland 03000 - 3 England European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Finals Win
2004061313/06/2004 France 01022 - 1 England European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Finals Loss
2004060505/06/2004 England 06016 - 1 Iceland Friendly Tournaments, Summer Tournament Win
2004060101/06/2004 England 01011 - 1 Japan Friendly Tournaments, Summer Tournament Draw
2004033131/03/2004 Sweden 00011 - 0 England International Match Loss
2004021818/02/2004 Portugal 01011 - 1 England International Match Draw
2003111616/11/2003 England 02032 - 3 Denmark International Match Loss
2003101111/10/2003 Turkey 00000 - 0 England European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Regional Stages Draw
2003091010/09/2003 England 02002 - 0 Liechtenstein European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Regional Stages Win
2003090606/09/2003 Macedonia 02011 - 2 England European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Regional Stages Win
2003082020/08/2003 England 03013 - 1 Croatia International Match Win
2003061111/06/2003 England 02012 - 1 Slovakia European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Regional Stages Win
2003060303/06/2003 England 02012 - 1 Serbia & Montenegro International Match Win
2003052222/05/2003 South Africa 02011 - 2 England International Match Win
2003040202/04/2003 England 02002 - 0 Turkey European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Regional Stages Win
2003032929/03/2003 Liechtenstein 02000 - 2 England European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Regional Stages Win
2003021212/02/2003 England 01031 - 3 Australia International Match Loss
2002101616/10/2002 England 02022 - 2 Macedonia European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Regional Stages Draw
2002101212/10/2002 Slovakia 02011 - 2 England European Championship, 2004 Portugal, Regional Stages Win
2002090707/09/2002 England 01011 - 1 Portugal International Match Draw
2002062121/06/2002 Brazil 01022 - 1 England World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Finals Loss
2002061515/06/2002 Denmark 03000 - 3 England World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Finals Win
2002061212/06/2002 Nigeria 00000 - 0 England World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Finals Draw
2002060707/06/2002 Argentina 01000 - 1 England World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Finals Win
2002060202/06/2002 Sweden 01011 - 1 England World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Finals Draw
2002052626/05/2002 Cameroon 02022 - 2 England International Match Draw
2002052121/05/2002 South Korea 01011 - 1 England International Match Draw
2002041717/04/2002 England 04004 - 0 Paraguay International Match Win
2002032727/03/2002 England 01021 - 2 Italy International Match Loss
2002021313/02/2002 Holland 01011 - 1 England International Match Draw
2001111010/11/2001 England 01011 - 1 Sweden International Match Draw
2001100606/10/2001 England 02022 - 2 Greece World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Regional Stages Draw
2001090505/09/2001 England 02002 - 0 Albania World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Regional Stages Win
2001090101/09/2001 Germany 05011 - 5 England World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Regional Stages Win
2001081515/08/2001 England 00020 - 2 Holland International Match Loss
2001060606/06/2001 Greece 02000 - 2 England World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Regional Stages Win
2001052525/05/2001 England 04004 - 0 Mexico International Match Win
2001032828/03/2001 Albania 03011 - 3 England World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Regional Stages Win
2001032424/03/2001 England 02012 - 1 Finland World Cup, 2002 Japan and South Korea, Regional Stages Win
2001022828/02/2001 England 03003 - 0 Spain International Match Win


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February 9, 2012, 7:38pm

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21/11/2007 England 02032 - 3 Croatia European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Loss
2007111616/11/2007 Austria 01000 - 1 England International Match Win
2007101717/10/2007 Russia 01022 - 1 England European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Loss
2007101313/10/2007 England 03003 - 0 Estonia European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Win
2007091212/09/2007 England 03003 - 0 Russia European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Win
2007090808/09/2007 England 03003 - 0 Israel European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Win
2007082222/08/2007 England 01021 - 2 Germany International Match Loss
2007060606/06/2007 Estonia 03000 - 3 England European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Win
2007060101/06/2007 England 01011 - 1 Brazil International Match Draw
2007032828/03/2007 Andorra 03000 - 3 England European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Win
2007032424/03/2007 Israel 00000 - 0 England European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Draw
2007020707/02/2007 England 00010 - 1 Spain International Match Loss
2006111515/11/2006 Holland 01011 - 1 England International Match Draw
2006101111/10/2006 Croatia 00022 - 0 England European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Loss
2006100707/10/2006 England 00000 - 0 Macedonia European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Draw
2006090606/09/2006 Macedonia 01000 - 1 England European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Win
2006090202/09/2006 England 05005 - 0 Andorra European Championship, 2008 Austria & Switzerland, Regional Stages Win
2006081616/08/2006 England 04004 - 0 Greece International Match Win


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February 9, 2012, 7:41pm

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26/06/1996 England 01011 - 1
(5 - 6) Germany European Championship, 1996 England, Finals Loss on penalties
1996062222/06/1996 England 00000 - 0
(4 - 2) Spain European Championship, 1996 England, Finals Win on penalties
1996061818/06/1996 England 04014 - 1 Holland European Championship, 1996 England, Finals Win
1996061515/06/1996 England 02002 - 0 Scotland European Championship, 1996 England, Finals Win
1996060808/06/1996 England 01011 - 1 Switzerland European Championship, 1996 England, Finals Draw
1996052323/05/1996 China 03000 - 3 England International Match Win
1996051818/05/1996 England 03003 - 0 Hungary International Match Win
1996042424/04/1996 England 00000 - 0 Croatia International Match Draw
1996032727/03/1996 England 01001 - 0 Bulgaria International Match Win
1995121212/12/1995 England 01011 - 1 Portugal International Match Draw
1995111515/11/1995 England 03013 - 1 Switzerland International Match Win
1995101111/10/1995 Norway 00000 - 0 England International Match Draw
1995090606/09/1995 England 00000 - 0 Colombia International Match Draw
1995061111/06/1995 England 01031 - 3 Brazil Friendly Tournaments, Umbro Cup Loss
1995060808/06/1995 England 03033 - 3 Sweden Friendly Tournaments, Umbro Cup Draw
1995060303/06/1995 England 02012 - 1 Japan Friendly Tournaments, Umbro Cup Win
1995032929/03/1995 England 00000 - 0 Uruguay International Match Draw
1995021515/02/1995 Republic of Ireland 00011 - 0 England International Match Loss
1994111616/11/1994 England 01001 - 0 Nigeria International Match Win
1994101212/10/1994 England 01011 - 1 Romania International Match Draw
1994090707/09/1994 England 02002 - 0 USA International Match Win
1994052222/05/1994 England 00000 - 0 Norway International Match Draw
1994051717/05/1994 England 05005 - 0 Greece International Match Win
1994030909/03/1994 England 01001 - 0 Denmark International Match Win


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February 9, 2012, 7:44pm

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07/07/1990 Italy 01022 - 1 England World Cup, 1990 Italy, Finals Loss
1990070404/07/1990 West Germany 01011 - 1
(4 - 3) England World Cup, 1990 Italy, Finals Loss on penalties
1990070101/07/1990 Cameroon 03022 - 3 England World Cup, 1990 Italy, Finals Win
1990062626/06/1990 Belgium 01000 - 1 England World Cup, 1990 Italy, Finals Win
1990062121/06/1990 Egypt 01000 - 1 England World Cup, 1990 Italy, Finals Win
1990061616/06/1990 Holland 00000 - 0 England World Cup, 1990 Italy, Finals Draw
1990061111/06/1990 Republic of Ireland 01011 - 1 England World Cup, 1990 Italy, Finals Draw
1990060202/06/1990 Tunisia 01011 - 1 England International Match Draw
1990052222/05/1990 England 01021 - 2 Uruguay International Match Loss
1990051515/05/1990 England 01001 - 0 Denmark International Match Win
1990042525/04/1990 England 04024 - 2 Czechoslovakia International Match Win
1990032828/03/1990 England 01001 - 0 Brazil International Match Win
1989121313/12/1989 England 02012 - 1 Yugoslavia International Match Win
1989111515/11/1989 England 00000 - 0 Italy International Match Draw
1989101111/10/1989 Poland 00000 - 0 England World Cup, 1990 Italy, Regional Stages Draw
1989090606/09/1989 Sweden 00000 - 0 England World Cup, 1990 Italy, Regional Stages Draw
1989060707/06/1989 Denmark 01011 - 1 England International Match Draw
1989060303/06/1989 England 03003 - 0 Poland World Cup, 1990 Italy, Regional Stages Win
1989052727/05/1989 Scotland 02000 - 2 England Friendly Tournaments, Rous Cup Win
1989052323/05/1989 England 00000 - 0 Chile Friendly Tournaments, Rous Cup Draw
1989042626/04/1989 England 05005 - 0 Albania World Cup, 1990 Italy, Regional Stages Win
1989030808/03/1989 Albania 02000 - 2 England World Cup, 1990 Italy, Regional Stages Win
1989020808/02/1989 Greece 02011 - 2 England International Match Win
1988111616/11/1988 Saudi Arabia 01011 - 1 England International Match Draw
1988101919/10/1988 England 00000 - 0 Sweden World Cup, 1990 Italy, Regional Stages Draw
1988091414/09/1988 England 01001 - 0 Denmark International Match Win
1988061818/06/1988 USSR 01033 - 1 England European Championship, 1988 West Germany, Finals Loss
1988061515/06/1988 Holland 01033 - 1 England European Championship, 1988 West Germany, Finals Loss
1988061212/06/1988 Republic of Ireland 00011 - 0 England European Championship, 1988 West Germany, Finals Loss
1988052828/05/1988 Switzerland 01000 - 1 England International Match Win
1988052424/05/1988 England 01011 - 1 Colombia Friendly Tournaments, Rous Cup Draw
1988052121/05/1988 England 01001 - 0 Scotland Friendly Tournaments, Rous Cup Win
1988042727/04/1988 Hungary 00000 - 0 England International Match Draw
1988032323/03/1988 England 02022 - 2 Holland International Match Draw
1988021717/02/1988 Israel 00000 - 0 England International Match Draw
1987111111/11/1987 Yugoslavia 04011 - 4 England European Championship, 1988 West Germany, Regional Stages Win
1987101414/10/1987 England 08008 - 0 Turkey European Championship, 1988 West Germany, Regional Stages Win
1987090909/09/1987 West Germany 01033 - 1 England International Match Loss
1987052323/05/1987 Scotland 00000 - 0 England Friendly Tournaments, Rous Cup Draw
1987051919/05/1987 England 01011 - 1 Brazil Friendly Tournaments, Rous Cup Draw
1987042929/04/1987 Turkey 00000 - 0 England European Championship, 1988 West Germany, Regional Stages Draw
1987040101/04/1987 Northern Ireland 02000 - 2 England European Championship, 1988 West Germany, Regional Stages Win
1987021818/02/1987 Spain 04022 - 4 England International Match Win
1986111212/11/1986 England 02002 - 0 Yugoslavia European Championship, 1988 West Germany, Regional Stages Win
1986101515/10/1986 England 03003 - 0 Northern Ireland European Championship, 1988 West Germany, Regional Stages Win
1986091010/09/1986 Sweden 00011 - 0 England International Match Loss


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February 9, 2012, 8:31pm

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Win percentages at international level are meaningless. Even if you filter out the pointless friendlies the qualifiers you play against the likes of Andorra and San Marino are still in there. The only stat that matters for an international manager (of a leading football nation at least) is trophies won.
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When it really mattered, in the World Cup against Brazil and Germany (and others), both managers failed on a number of levels.  This is the test.  Bobby Robson was very close to getting us to a World Cup final.  Against a severely depleted Argie team, we would have no doubt won.

You can prove anything with stats.
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Stats can be read either way. The same as people saying the don't buy the argument of too many foreigners has ruined te English game, I don't buy the whole speaking english thing. I believe that is a poor argument the media have clinged to. I think the guy speaks very good English behind closed doors but uses a less audible form when speaking to the media etc...

Bobby Robson didn't do too bad at barca through broken Spanish and an interpreter etc...

It's all ifs and buts. We should've won in 86,90 and 96 but we didn't...


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Ah but bobby Robson had a special interpreter


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