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GtfcGarner
December 27, 2011, 6:45pm

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I'd like Rob Duffy to leave but we would be a bit short should Elding or Hearn pick up an injury / suspension.

I'm not too concerned about the centre back situation - simply getting rid of the awful Kempson has improved us and it presents a chance for Garner to roll his sleeves up and have a go as he is drinking at the last chance saloon. I like Pearson, he is a good organiser and competes well - I don't see a need to bring in another centre back.

I'd like to see a left winger brought in (Mccarthy hasn't impressed me) and I think we should focus on extending your Connor's loan deal until the end of the season. He's 18 but he is class and again competes well.

Perhaps we could do with a bit more power in the engine room in central midfield too.
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I'd like Rob Duffy to leave but we would be a bit short should Elding or Hearn pick up an injury / suspension.

I'm not too concerned about the centre back situation - simply getting rid of the awful Kempson has improved us and it presents a chance for Garner to roll his sleeves up and have a go as he is drinking at the last chance saloon. I like Pearson, he is a good organiser and competes well - I don't see a need to bring in another centre back.

I'd like to see a left winger brought in (Mccarthy hasn't impressed me) and I think we should focus on extending your Connor's loan deal until the end of the season. He's 18 but he is class and again competes well.

Perhaps we could do with a bit more power in the engine room in central midfield too.


It would be interesting to see what Spencer could do with a long run in the team and although a different type of player Coulson likes to play up front rather than the wing.
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A centre mid, possibly a left winger though I thought Artus played well there yesterday, Townsend for the season or a left back who is as good, and a quality centre back.
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What did everyone think of Lincolns Francis Laurent he could do a job on the wing for us,quick,strong and can put a decent ball in the box.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Laurent
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What did everyone think of Lincolns Francis Laurent he could do a job on the wing for us,quick,strong and can put a decent ball in the box.


But he only played for 45 minutes? Though he looked useful and we couldn't deal with him at times.
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But he only played for 45 minutes? Though he looked useful and we couldn't deal with him at times.


Think it was abit longer than a half but he caused us problems.
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I thought the number 8 for Lincoln was a classy player, I think he is called Alan Power. He'd be a great partner for Disley however doubt he would come seeing as we are rivals.
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Laurent would never come becasue Lincoln see us a rivals..... Oh wait  


Sleep well Icey, Matty and Richard. Keep each other company up there xx

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I thought the number 8 for Lincoln was a classy player, I think he is called Alan Power. He'd be a great partner for Disley however doubt he would come seeing as we are rivals.


Didn't really look a ball winner though,think it would be the same as having Disley and Artus.
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It would be interesting to see what Spencer could do with a long run in the team and although a different type of player Coulson likes to play up front rather than the wing.


Spencer cant even manage a long run in training let alone in the team!

Luke Foster  or Dusty Miller as a centre back, if Antwi doesnt sign (i think he probably will), Alan Power in central midfield and a more developed left sided wide midfielder than McCarthy
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I thought Power broke the play up quite well at times, would love to see him here.
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why did we sign McCarthy ?

with all due respect to him, we have youngster's such as dayle southwell who can play there !

why are we not giving them a chance ?
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December 27, 2011, 7:31pm
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Spencer cant even manage a long run in training let alone in the team!


Mate, from what I remember of him playing against us that can only be a good thing. He turns like a barge and is deceptively slow. I remember chuckling when he tried to control the ball. I think its fair to say S and H got this one wrong.
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How about these 2 both from sailsbury:
Claudio Herbert -  strong fast strker, at the first game against us he was superbv causing our defence all sorts of threats
Chris Gales - proper old fashion centre half, vocal and brilliant in the air.


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December 27, 2011, 8:22pm
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I think we need a small striker with a bit of pace and flair someone we can bring on to impact a game.
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[quote=75]I'd like Rob Duffy to leave

Why, he does his job ? he always gives 110 %, and he scores
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Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God
why did we sign McCarthy ?

with all due respect to him, we have youngster's such as dayle southwell who can play there !

why are we not giving them a chance ?


Southwell's currently injured, he got injured in a friendly came and is out for several months.
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December 27, 2011, 10:26pm
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why did we sign McCarthy ?

with all due respect to him, we have youngster's such as dayle southwell who can play there !

why are we not giving them a chance ?


I think Southwell has a broken foot.
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Dayle is back now. Played for the yoof about 10 days ago in the last game before their christmas break
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[quote=75]I'd like Rob Duffy to leave
he always gives 110 %, and he scores


Impossible and he's not scored in his last 13 league games.


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I think we need a small striker with a bit of pace and flair someone we can bring on to impact a game.


Someone like Liam Hearn, plays for Alfreton, was their top scorer last season... oh wait


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We definitely need a centre half, whether it's Antwi, I don't know, there's also Ian Miller, who is a free agent, although I think we'd do well to sign him. We need experience at the back, Antwi brought that, and look how much we improved, the other 3 benefited no end from his organisation skills.

Other than that I'd like to see one or two come in midfield, probably a tough tackling centre mid, someone who does a similar job to panther, if he goes back to Aldershot, maybe a little more effectively or tidily, although I think second half at Lincoln was probably the best passage of play he's had for us, he was very good. I am a big fan of Frankie though and also Thanoj, so I'd be more than happy for one of those to sit in there, and to be fair Church could not be faulted for his efforts, he may come back a much tidier player from his stint on loan.

I'd love to see a decent winger, I love Coulson, he's a good player and probably one of my favorites but, it would be nice to see us bring in a proper winger, somebody with some flair, someone who can change a game, Mc Carthy just hasnt shown enough for me. Jamie Green was very impressive against Stockport, just a shame he's injured  


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I wonder why Church didn't play for Alfreton the other day?


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December 28, 2011, 3:45am
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Very disappointed this thread is virtually wall to wall unfair "I'm gonna slag a player off cos he's not in the team" b0llocks.
Please stop trying to convince us it proves something when it doesn't prove anything at all !  

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Impossible and he's not scored in his last 13 league games.

Ignors the fact he's scored 2 in the FA Cup weeks ago and hasn't started the last SIX league matches.
If you're gonna rely on a bunch of stats at least play the game fair Abdul, that's well misleading !...  

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I remember chuckling when he tried to control the ball. I think its fair to say S and H got this one wrong.

Maybe so but Elding wasn't fully match fit earlier in pre-season and had the first touch of an elephant himself in ALL his pre-season games too.
I didn't write him off but others did, my point is, circumstances can change and every player has something different to offer.
Are we completely sure Spencer wouldn't improve (barely seen him play anyway tbh) with games himself ?
I'm not !

Let's look at the REALITY here, several players haven't really been in the managers thinking yet at various points they've mostly ALL come in and done very well - yes Garner, Artus then go back further it's Duffy, Makofo (prime examples from last season !) Elding, I'Anson and Pearson.

The latter did well on his Vale return - all the evidence also supports any theory that some players who are "fresher" sometimes do better.

What I'm saying is, given all what's happened this season, fans shouldn't be so quick to slag off their own players off as failures, especially if thev're out of the team with zero opportunity to prove their worth.  

And we think managers are like gods who can never get anything wrong ?!  
Let's face facts - if S&H were perfect at picking the "best" players every time they'd have already found the best starting XI within 2-3 months of arrival, not still be tinkering about with personnel now....

That's not even having a go at S&H, it's just the harsh reality of making tough (often borderline) team choices, they've fully admitted themselves it takes time to build something...

And whilst there's a positive side of what can happen when you DO change things around (maybe their comments helped keep players like Garner on their toes), I just think far too many fans take the most easy thinking "follow the club cos they must know best" option, some appear like they're incapable of forming any of their OWN opinions.

Prime examples are:
- when Church went on loan - some were all too hasty to start adding 2 and 2 together to start slagging and writing him off.
- when Silk got picked ahead of Wood - suddenly everyone was a Silk fan and the Bradley Woods doubters sprang up, ffs it's so obvious how swayed, fickle or "pro club" (it's "negative club" when it's the wrong choice !) some people really are !  

As I've said, we all know exactly what would have happened if I'Anson hadn't been given any chance to get back in and been released.
We'd have been faced with a bunch of self deluded n0bs celebrating his cancelled contract like they knew best.
When in reality it would have been based on bugga all except "Well he must have been rubbish then"...

Personally, I'll judge players on what I SEE when they're given the chance, not on a bunch of dodgy stats, dangerous assumptions or worse, unfounded "off the field" rumours !  
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What we have to be wary off as well is breaking up a winning team.

I remember Slade bringing in Ben Futcher, Junior Mendes and Curtis Woodhouse when we was sat in the automatic promotion places and looking like we were going to go up. Toner got dropped for Woodhouse and whilst you would argue that Woodhouse was a better footballer, it broke up a team that was winning and IMO disrupted the way we played and ultimately because we had to readjust we went backwards for several weeks and lost out in promotion.

I agree that we need a center back if Antwi is not staying and possible a left sided midfielder but I honestly don't think we need to make drastic changes. If Church comes back then I'm happy with him and Panther competing for the spot to partner Disley. Panther is part of a winning team so why would you not keep him?  
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Does anyone know if Ex - Darlington's Miller has been considered as a new centre half ??
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Antwi permanent!
Another centre half- Ian Miller (former Darlo)
Centre Mid
Left Mid

Get rid of Spencer and bring a striker in on loan maybe?
McCarthey gone and Townsend in till the end of the season...
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Lincolns number 8 power looked decent
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If Lincoln sold him they would really be in the mire. He's their driving force. Can't remember him being as good elsewhere tho, um probably wrong on that tho. But yes he looked as good as I've seen in the conf this year!
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Southwell's currently injured, he got injured in a friendly came and is out for several months.


fair enough
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People who say Duffy should go are flipping barmy! Sick of seeing posts suggesting it!
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WE NEED A EXPERIENCED CENTRE HALF LIKE ANTWI


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Quoted from 1600
Very disappointed this thread is virtually wall to wall unfair "I'm gonna slag a player off cos he's not in the team" b0llocks.
Please stop trying to convince us it proves something when it doesn't prove anything at all !  


Ignors the fact he's scored 2 in the FA Cup weeks ago and hasn't started the last SIX league matches.
If you're gonna rely on a bunch of stats at least play the game fair Abdul, that's well misleading !...  


Maybe so but Elding wasn't fully match fit earlier in pre-season and had the first touch of an elephant himself in ALL his pre-season games too.
I didn't write him off but others did, my point is, circumstances can change and every player has something different to offer.
Are we completely sure Spencer wouldn't improve (barely seen him play anyway tbh) with games himself ?
I'm not !

Let's look at the REALITY here, several players haven't really been in the managers thinking yet at various points they've mostly ALL come in and done very well - yes Garner, Artus then go back further it's Duffy, Makofo (prime examples from last season !) Elding, I'Anson and Pearson.

The latter did well on his Vale return - all the evidence also supports any theory that some players who are "fresher" sometimes do better.

What I'm saying is, given all what's happened this season, fans shouldn't be so quick to slag off their own players off as failures, especially if thev're out of the team with zero opportunity to prove their worth.  

And we think managers are like gods who can never get anything wrong ?!  
Let's face facts - if S&H were perfect at picking the "best" players every time they'd have already found the best starting XI within 2-3 months of arrival, not still be tinkering about with personnel now....

That's not even having a go at S&H, it's just the harsh reality of making tough (often borderline) team choices, they've fully admitted themselves it takes time to build something...

And whilst there's a positive side of what can happen when you DO change things around (maybe their comments helped keep players like Garner on their toes), I just think far too many fans take the most easy thinking "follow the club cos they must know best" option, some appear like they're incapable of forming any of their OWN opinions.

Prime examples are:
- when Church went on loan - some were all too hasty to start adding 2 and 2 together to start slagging and writing him off.
- when Silk got picked ahead of Wood - suddenly everyone was a Silk fan and the Bradley Woods doubters sprang up, ffs it's so obvious how swayed, fickle or "pro club" (it's "negative club" when it's the wrong choice !) some people really are !  

As I've said, we all know exactly what would have happened if I'Anson hadn't been given any chance to get back in and been released.
We'd have been faced with a bunch of self deluded n0bs celebrating his cancelled contract like they knew best.
When in reality it would have been based on bugga all except "Well he must have been rubbish then"...

Personally, I'll judge players on what I SEE when they're given the chance, not on a bunch of dodgy stats, dangerous assumptions or worse, unfounded "off the field" rumours !  


Well said
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Quoted from davmariner
I wonder why Church didn't play for Alfreton the other day?


As posted previously, Church was injured last week training with Town and therefore his loan spell at Alfreton was cut slightly short
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As posted previously, Church was injured last week training with Town and therefore his loan spell at Alfreton was cut slightly short
feel a bit sorry for Church.Hard working player who probably had high hopes when he first came in the summer   gets shipped out on loan and then gets injured.Hope he recovers asap and does well for us when he puts on the shirt again
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Quoted from mariner marc
feel a bit sorry for Church.Hard working player who probably had high hopes when he first came in the summer   gets shipped out on loan and then gets injured.Hope he recovers asap and does well for us when he puts on the shirt again


To be fair Marc he's at least in a better position to fail at football than most footballers are.


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To be fair Marc he's at least in a better position to fail at football than most footballers are.
yeah your right but as things stand now for him doesn't look to promising.Hope he can turn it around

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Quoted from pontoonlew
People who say Duffy should go are flipping barmy! Sick of seeing posts suggesting it!


Well said lew, duffy is our only target man at the club (wouldnt class elding as one) and i no we want to get away from that style of play but its always handy to have a differant option


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Don't need to make huge changes. An experienced centre back is needed as we're a bit short there and probably another left sided player, which could be Green if he can get himself fit. Get Church back and we've got more than enough in midfield, especially if we extend Panther's loan.
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Quoted from 1600

Ignors the fact he's scored 2 in the FA Cup weeks ago and hasn't started the last SIX league matches.
If you're gonna rely on a bunch of stats at least play the game fair Abdul, that's well misleading !...  




Fair play 80s, you've seen through my creative statting!  


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We should intercourse Green off in my opinion, pains me to say it as hes a good player.
We need another Centre back, prefrably Antwi and someone to play left side. Oh and sign Panther up.
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Panther been all right but he is average and a short term fix he's no better than church who I think is the better player all round he's still you and in experienced so would keep him for a few years and sign a better all round player than Manny saying that though do we have the money
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December 28, 2011, 6:41pm

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Although Ive never seen him play... this Miller chappie at Darlo seems to be well liked and
of a fair standard...


All my pictures , Seem to fade to black and white.... (Reg Dwight)
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December 29, 2011, 2:17am
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Fair play 80s, you've seen through my creative statting!  

Lol, hey I've done it myself   (not that far mind  )
Then again, who hasn't ?
Maybe I'm being way too defensive and overprotective, just feel Duffy's getting enough stick already as it is...

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if Miller is available within our money structure and wants to join a club with ambition, we could do far worse as he sounds like a good player at this level and possibly above.

He sounds like a steady team player who wants family stability - i.e. being paid on time ! - and was loyal to his previous employer until the wages stopped.

A reasonable two year contract could be a useful ploy to draw him to us, unless he has already been approached by others in advance of his 14 days notice.

If Antwi won't sign long term, then we need another in reserve.
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December 29, 2011, 8:55pm
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How many more players can Town have on loan? whats the ruling?

I'm guessing unless we can get anyone in on Free Transfers, will be more loan players to tie us over till the end of the season.
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Lol, hey I've done it myself   (not that far mind  )
Then again, who hasn't ?
Maybe I'm being way too defensive and overprotective, just feel Duffy's getting enough stick already as it is...



well said 80s
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December 30, 2011, 4:41pm
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FAO Black Boots, I Believe in Cod............................... no chance of Ian Miller coming here. Get real.    
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FAO Black Boots, I Believe in Cod............................... no chance of Ian Miller coming here. Get real.    


Excuse me?

This is what i said about Miller;

"Luke Foster  or Dusty Miller as a centre back, if Antwi doesnt sign (i think he probably will), Alan Power in central midfield and a more developed left sided wide midfielder than McCarthy"
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I believe in Cod
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FAO Black Boots, I Believe in Cod............................... no chance of Ian Miller coming here. Get real.    


I believe I said

" also Ian Miller, who is a free agent, although I think we'd do well to sign him"

Didn't say he wouldnt be coming, just said we'd do well to sign him, and well, we have. Well done S+H

I'll take my apology in writing or by way of cheque or beer tokens, thank you.


Colour my life with the chaos of trouble.
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