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DaleH
July 23, 2024, 2:45pm
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The issue is it's too relevant to just pass over  these days -
invariably the wealthier the benafactor the better the club will do eventually . We can talk about sustainability but in reality how many clubs are actually doing well within the 92 on a close to 'sustainable model 'you can probably count them on one hand .

There is a difference between JS & AP being good owners ,and wealthy enough owners (or at least willing to be as silly as the majority and throw a load at it ) to make a significant difference to our fortunes we are too early in the piece to make a judgement in truth aren't we ?  they have a medium to long term plan let's see if it bears fruit .

The Fenty comparison is bizarre in truth - different time ,completely different £££ being thrown about as to now -when we probably were higher in the food chain in terms of playing budget the issue was he had built a house made of matches .



In my eyes, it doesn't actually matter if not many clubs are doing well on a close to sustainable matter. Sustainability is still the only option for me. The alternative is that you continuously run the risk of becoming an extinct football club like ones we have already seen. Or you are a club that is wholly dependent on sugar daddy ownership with owners with incredibly deep pockets that are willing to keep dipping into them. Call it a vanity project or rich mans game or whatever you wish. We don't have owners that are going to dip into mega rich pockets on the scale of the Wrexham's of the world, and frankly I am not even sure I would want that either.

Sorry if my opinion disappoints, but it's caring ownership and sustainable financial management for me all the way for me, even if this means we remain solidly as a lower league club.


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I’m more nervous about the coming season than last year with this squad. No where near good enough and looking nailed on for another relegation dogfight. It’s just not good enough given how the fans have backed the club over the last 4 years .


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I think we all agree that we need several more signings before the season starts. I expect there to be more incomings soon and will reserve judgement until a) they arrive, and b) we see them playing in competitive matches.
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We are barely sustainable now, struggling at the bottom of the fourth division. What is going to happen to that sustainability when the attendances drop back to the 3 or 4000 levels again.
Where will we be then? Fighting with Scunthorpe for a place in the conference north!
We need to invest and we need investers. We also need to stop being afraid. Most successful clubs have serious investment.
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I’m more nervous about the coming season than last year with this squad. No where near good enough and looking nailed on for another relegation dogfight. It’s just not good enough given how the fans have backed the club over the last 4 years .


Can't help feeling we are being taken for mugs.


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We are barely sustainable now, struggling at the bottom of the fourth division. What is going to happen to that sustainability when the attendances drop back to the 3 or 4000 levels again.
Where will be then? Fighting with Scunthorpe for a place in the conference north!
We need to invest and we need investers. We also need to stop being afraid. Most successful clubs have serious investment.


Mate, a couple of things, we are not struggling at the bottom of the 4th Division as the League doesn't kick off until August 10th.  Forget last season, it's over.

As for investors, you cannot force people to invest in the club, and at the moment we are probably not a very attractive proposition for most investors out there.

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you old boys should think yourself lucky! hurst was right you were spoilt.

I've been following the club 22 years this season, I've seen 2 flipping promotions ( both from non league) and the rest of the time we have been unequivocally excrement.

If i was an investor would I want to put my hard earned into a bottom end League 2 club, would i intercourse as like
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According to on-line data (fifa24 etc.scores) this is our best 11 plus reserves:

Best 11:

Eastwood:  60.  Potentially:  63.

Warren:  62.  Pot:  65.
Tharme:  62.  Pot:  69.  (Injured)
McJanet:  63.  Pot:  65.
Hume:  62.  Pot:  65.

Thompson:  63.  Pot:  63.   (Injured)
Green:  61.  Pot:  62.
McEachran:  62.  Pot:  66.

Pyke:  59.  Pot:  61.     (Injured)
Rose:  63.  Pot:  63.     (Injured)
Vernam: 61.  Pot:  61.     (Injured)

Reserves:

Wright:  59.  Pot:  64.
Cass:  61.  Pot:  66.
Rodger:  62.  Pot:  63.        
Carson:  58.  Pot:  69.
Ainley:  60.  Pot:  62.
Kauri:  55.  Pot:  67.
Wilson:  58.  Pot.  59.
Gardner  53.  Pot:  71.
Dadi:  55.  Pot:  65.

Some of the younger players with low scores have room for improvement: Gardner, Dadi, wright etc.

The first 11 does not look too bad but up front and in mid-field there is not much back up for those injured and young ineperienced players. We desperately need more experienced back up players.



Are you quoting stats from FIFA 24, the football game?

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you old boys should think yourself lucky! hurst was right you were spoilt.

I've been following the club 22 years this season, I've seen 2 flipping promotions ( both from non league) and the rest of the time we have been unequivocally excrement.

If i was an investor would I want to put my hard earned into a bottom end League 2 club, would i intercourse as like


We were spoiled. Absolutely. Does that mean we shouldn’t be spoiled again? Perhaps do something like the mighty Crawley or even what our neighbours are doing now or 10 years ago in the case of Scunny?

If sustainability and bodging up a knackered stadium is the limit of the club’s ambition, then attendances will quickly dwindle. I’m not saying the owners want that and I’m sure there’s signings to come but the current squad as it stands scares me.


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We were spoiled. Absolutely. Does that mean we shouldn’t be spoiled again? Perhaps do something like the mighty Crawley or even what our neighbours are doing now or 10 years ago in the case of Scunny?

If sustainability and bodging up a knackered stadium is the limit of the club’s ambition, then attendances will quickly dwindle. I’m not saying the owners want that and I’m sure there’s signings to come but the current squad as it stands scares me.




No not at all, I didn't mean it in that way, Just saying what a complete shambles we've been for pretty much 20 years, its about time we deliver on the pitch, for the ones who deserve it most off the pitch
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