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diehardmariner
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McIntosh was a Graham Rodger signing, I seem to think he came similar time to Nick Fenton.  Big gap in the defence with the departure of Rob Jones.  He was alright but definitely at the end of his career.  I'm sure Rodger wanted to keep him but the Huddersfield boss, could have been Peter Jackson, recalled him just to leave him in the stands.  We got Andy Butler on loan instead who was woeful yet had a good lower league career throughout, just his short spell here which was a blot on his copybook.  
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Hmmm. Scottish defender with dark hair? I have a faint recollection of him if so, but it is flipping faint. These not-very-good defenders all blur into one.
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That's the one.  To be fair, there's a lot of dross in the last 20 years to blur into one big mess!
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If only it was that good in Buckley's final season.  Nogan left the summer of '99, having become a bit of the boo-boy target for his lack of goalscoring prowess, completely overlooking the sheer amount of donkey work he did for the team.  Minus he over-frequent back heels he was the Tony Rees of Buckley's second spell.

His final full season was so frustrating but hindsight definitely sits in his favour, we were definitely punching above our weight and within a few years of his sacking we dropped like a stone and haven't got close to returning since.  The possession game and the current clamour for it is an interesting point made, but it really lacked any potency.  Even the lesser teams who try to play that type of play, even thinking of those early hammerings under Artell, had something about them going forward.  We didn't, I'm not sure how much of that was down to the approach or the players available to Buckley at the time.  Recruitment generally hadn't been great.  Lee Ashcroft and Stacy Coldicott were good additions post the double winning season, then Alan Pouton, Danny Coyne and Bradley Allen the year after. But they were more about replacing than improving overall.  Then that final summer just did him.  One of the first things Lennie said when he came in was the team badly lacked pace, the line-up for Buckley's final home game was:

Coyne
Macca Raven Livvo Smith
Donovan Pouton Groves Black
             Clare Jeffrey

The final game away at Portsmouth was slightly different but equally painfully slow:

Coyne
Macca Raven Livvo Gallimore
Donovan Coldicott Groves Pouton Smith
                     Jeffrey

That all said, the last 10 league games under AB were against the following:

Barnsley
Huddersfield
Sheff Utd
Man City
Blackburn
West Brom
Tranmere
Birmingham
Preston
Portsmouth

We definitely didn't know how good we had it.


Was it the previous season Nogan got hooked then ?
I was  100% sure Buckley hooked him and they had a ding dong on the touchlineat BP and was sure it was against Pompey but maybe against
someone else ..... or my mind is playing tricks on me

#GotMyFactsWrong
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According to Soccerbase, Nogan's last game for us was May 1999 v Tranmere. He got subbed after 26 minutes for Daryl Clare so maybe that one?

(Clare scored the only goal of the game 8 minutes later  )


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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Any fall out with Nogan has completely escaped me.  Definitely was a fall-out with Ashcroft and he seemed to have a colourful relationship with Clare too.  I vaguely remember hearing an ex-striker, I forgot who (might have been Livvo on the DN35 interview) that he was notoriously hard to please as a striker because he still thought he was better than them all.  I suppose a bit like Glenn Hoddle, just minus Eileen Drewery.

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Ultimately, the Grimsby crowd got on his back for his lack of goals, and he infamously made some on-the-pitch comments and gestures towards fans in the home tie against Tranmere, only to be substituted by Buckley after only half-an-hour as a result


https://thefishy.co.uk/story.php?id=8092400
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Any fall out with Nogan has completely escaped me.  Definitely was a fall-out with Ashcroft and he seemed to have a colourful relationship with Clare too.  I vaguely remember hearing an ex-striker, I forgot who (might have been Livvo on the DN35 interview) that he was notoriously hard to please as a striker because he still thought he was better than them all.  I suppose a bit like Glenn Hoddle, just minus Eileen Drewery.



https://thefishy.co.uk/story.php?id=8092400


Nice one mate , joined the dots it was that . I thought he was pointing and making gestures at Buckley , but going off that it sounds like it was some of our regulars instead !
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Pochetino has left Chelsea now 😳

De zerbi there next at a guess


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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If only it was that good in Buckley's final season.  Nogan left the summer of '99, having become a bit of the boo-boy target for his lack of goalscoring prowess, completely overlooking the sheer amount of donkey work he did for the team.  Minus he over-frequent back heels he was the Tony Rees of Buckley's second spell.

His final full season was so frustrating but hindsight definitely sits in his favour, we were definitely punching above our weight and within a few years of his sacking we dropped like a stone and haven't got close to returning since.  The possession game and the current clamour for it is an interesting point made, but it really lacked any potency.  Even the lesser teams who try to play that type of play, even thinking of those early hammerings under Artell, had something about them going forward.  We didn't, I'm not sure how much of that was down to the approach or the players available to Buckley at the time.  Recruitment generally hadn't been great.  Lee Ashcroft and Stacy Coldicott were good additions post the double winning season, then Alan Pouton, Danny Coyne and Bradley Allen the year after. But they were more about replacing than improving overall.  Then that final summer just did him.  One of the first things Lennie said when he came in was the team badly lacked pace, the line-up for Buckley's final home game was:

Coyne
Macca Raven Livvo Smith
Donovan Pouton Groves Black
             Clare Jeffrey

The final game away at Portsmouth was slightly different but equally painfully slow:

Coyne
Macca Raven Livvo Gallimore
Donovan Coldicott Groves Pouton Smith
                     Jeffrey

That all said, the last 10 league games under AB were against the following:

Barnsley
Huddersfield
Sheff Utd
Man City
Blackburn
West Brom
Tranmere
Birmingham
Preston
Portsmouth

We definitely didn't know how good we had it.


Well 5 of those clubs were league opposition in the consecutive promotion seasons of 78/79 and 79/80 and at the time I would have only said Portsmouth and Sheff Utd of those 5 were much bigger clubs than us, Tranmere must have been relegated from Div 3 when we were promoted from Div 4 and were a minnow playing Friday nights with crowds of about 2k. All the smaller clubs on that list have developed their grounds or moved. It’s not a case of we didn’t know how good we had it, more that we’ve completely regressed in a relative sense.

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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
Pochetino has left Chelsea now 😳



This is a surprise given how well they have been playing recently. He has turned them round in recent months and got them into 6th and most likely a Europa league slot.

But then again the this is Chelsea. Six managers in five years. Crazy.
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