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forza ivano
April 14, 2024, 11:50am

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1) Since we changed shape we have 17 points from 12 games which is play off form. Putting your own feelings to 1 side ( i suspect he hates having to play this way), is it feasible for a team to play that system all season?

2) In an ideal world would you have a 1st choice keeper with a back up or 2 equal ability keepers fighting for the spot ?

3) Do you agree that you have to adapt your system of playing to suit the players you have and can feasibly get?

4) Are any of the 1st team pros or the under 18s good enough to become significant members of the 1st team squad next season?

5) What are the 3 biggest areas where you want to see an improvement in the next 6 months?
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Very good questions.
Artell impressed me with his ability to adapt. As they say, you do the same things you get the same results from the Doncaster game what a change. I actually think the changes had been implemented before then, but were not working
The ability to adapt and utilise what you have to get the best out of them is very good management and I was impressed.


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Very good questions.
Artell impressed me with his ability to adapt. As they say, you do the same things you get the same results from the Doncaster game what a change. I actually think the changes had been implemented before then, but were not working
The ability to adapt and utilise what you have to get the best out of them is very good management and I was impressed.


utm


We do seem to have a Plan B with Artell when things need changing which is encouraging.


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1) Since we changed shape we have 17 points from 12 games which is play off form.


No it's not. It works out at 65 points over a 46 game season.

In the 27 completed tier 4 seasons since the division returned to 24 clubs after the 1994/95 season the lowest points to achieve 7th was 66 in 2006 (Lincoln).

The last time a team reached the play-offs with less than 70 points was 2013 when Bradford were promoted via the play-offs after finishing on 69 points.

And interestingly in the 18 seasons between 1995/96 and 2012/13 the team finishing 7th achieved an average of 71.5 points.

In the 9 completed seasons from 2013/14 onwards the team finishing 7th has averaged 73.1 points.

And since the formation change after the Donny disaster we've won 4 out of 12. That works out at 15 wins over a 46 match season.

In the last 5 completed League 2 seasons no team has reached the play-offs with less than 20 wins.

And only 3 times since 1995/16 has a team got to the play-offs with less than 18 wins. 2 clubs achieved 17 wins to finish 7th (2009 & 2011) with just 1 example of 15 wins being enough to finish 7th (Lincoln in 2006 again).

So, stop pretending everything has been marvelous after the Doncaster game. It hasn't.

And anyhow, no Head Coach would get away with the style and quality of football over the last 12 games over a full season. There's no relegation battle fan pragmatism in August.
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No it's not. It works out at 65 points over a 46 game season.

In the 27 completed tier 4 seasons since the division returned to 24 clubs after the 1994/95 season the lowest points to achieve 7th was 66 in 2006 (Lincoln).

The last time a team reached the play-offs with less than 70 points was 2013 when Bradford were promoted via the play-offs after finishing on 69 points.

And interestingly in the 18 seasons between 1995/96 and 2012/13 the team finishing 7th achieved an average of 71.5 points.

In the 9 completed seasons from 2013/14 onwards the team finishing 7th has averaged 73.1 points.

And since the formation change after the Donny disaster we've won 4 out of 12. That works out at 15 wins over a 46 match season.

In the last 5 completed League 2 seasons no team has reached the play-offs with less than 20 wins.

And only 3 times since 1995/16 has a team got to the play-offs with less than 18 wins. 2 clubs achieved 17 wins to finish 7th (2009 & 2011) with just 1 example of 15 wins being enough to finish 7th (Lincoln in 2006 again).

So, stop pretending everything has been marvelous after the Doncaster game. It hasn't.

And anyhow, no Head Coach would get away with the style and quality of football over the last 12 games over a full season. There's no relegation battle fan pragmatism in August.


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Quoted from forza ivano
1) Since we changed shape we have 17 points from 12 games which is play off form. Putting your own feelings to 1 side ( i suspect he hates having to play this way), is it feasible for a team to play that system all season?

2) In an ideal world would you have a 1st choice keeper with a back up or 2 equal ability keepers fighting for the spot ?

3) Do you agree that you have to adapt your system of playing to suit the players you have and can feasibly get?

4) Are any of the 1st team pros or the under 18s good enough to become significant members of the 1st team squad next season?

5) What are the 3 biggest areas where you want to see an improvement in the next 6 months?


If I remember a recent DA interview correctly, they were having a meeting regarding youth team contracts at the time he found out about his Dad.

Given that three or four have gone out on loan, I think those concerned are possibly finding out how they cope with men's football.

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No it's not. It works out at 65 points over a 46 game season.

In the 27 completed tier 4 seasons since the division returned to 24 clubs after the 1994/95 season the lowest points to achieve 7th was 66 in 2006 (Lincoln).

The last time a team reached the play-offs with less than 70 points was 2013 when Bradford were promoted via the play-offs after finishing on 69 points.

And interestingly in the 18 seasons between 1995/96 and 2012/13 the team finishing 7th achieved an average of 71.5 points.

In the 9 completed seasons from 2013/14 onwards the team finishing 7th has averaged 73.1 points.

And since the formation change after the Donny disaster we've won 4 out of 12. That works out at 15 wins over a 46 match season.

In the last 5 completed League 2 seasons no team has reached the play-offs with less than 20 wins.

And only 3 times since 1995/16 has a team got to the play-offs with less than 18 wins. 2 clubs achieved 17 wins to finish 7th (2009 & 2011) with just 1 example of 15 wins being enough to finish 7th (Lincoln in 2006 again).

So, stop pretending everything has been marvelous after the Doncaster game. It hasn't.

And anyhow, no Head Coach would get away with the style and quality of football over the last 12 games over a full season. There's no relegation battle fan pragmatism in August.


Take away the robbery of Sutton and it would be 5 wins in 12. We also threw the win away against Bradford, it's not been excellent but it's also not been awful, the players have shown a desire to fight for the badge and shown enough quality to obtain the points required despite every single person writing us off. We've lost twice in 12 and that was against Wrexham and Barrow.. our problem this season has been drawing games and I am very optimistic that we will turn more of those draws into wins under a more pragmatic approach under Artell. It's not all sunshine and rainbows but we showed against MK Dons we can sit behind the ball and nullify teams, against Newport and Crewe we've dominated the games and got much required wins.. the ability to adapt to the different teams we play is something that Artell does much better than Hurst.
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Take away the robbery of Sutton and it would be 5 wins in 12.


If my Aunt had a pair of b0ll0cks she'd be my Uncle.
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Bloody misery guts.


Oh sorry, am I supposed to celebrate successfully navigating a relegation battle we should never have been involved in?
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If my Aunt had a pair of b0ll0cks she'd be my Uncle.


That analogy would work if they were surgically attatched, you can't fathom a lino giving a robbery of a decision into account.
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