Paul "Teflon" Hurst

as a Hurst supporter, i like many others are just baflled about how we have gone so far backwards
I think it's true to say that McAtee is the key to everything, and in all honesty, that's worrying in itself (have never liked '1 man' teams)
He's the fulcrum - without him the midfield aren't very effective and Taylor looks completely lost .That in turn puts more pressure on the defence , who don't look as confident and solid as they did in the first 2-3 months
Even if we get mcAtee back performing at his best and we turn around the results i still think it's not a long term solution to be so reliant on 1 player
As for Hurst i'd prefer him to stay (simply because i'm not sure there are many better non league managers available) but in all honesty i couldn't blame the owners if they gave him the tin tack.
My guess is that they will give him more time, and hope he can turn it around as i think they'd prefer to have stability, but as someone else said, they didn't get to be very successful businessmen without having a ruthless streak

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Proven Failure? Whatever you think about PH his record has far more successes than failures, starting before he even managed us the first time. His only “failures” came at basket case clubs like Ipswich (who’ve sacked 2 manager since him) and Scunthorpe.
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I can only recall one success (singular), the (eventual) promotion back to the FL v Forest Green. I distinctly recall failing a previous playoff final (v Bristol). Two Trophy final defeats (v Halifax and Wrexham) and numerous play off failures at the semi-final stage.

Other that Forest Green he's won nowt (which is the only real definition of 'success') Shrewsbury Ipswich and Scunthorpe were therefore failures

Let’s be honest Hurst is absolute dogger.

Shiite at Ipswich, shite at scunny, got us relegated and now this.

The stat last week where he’d won like 18 in his last 100 games or something says it all

Quoted from Ipswin

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Proven Failure? Whatever you think about PH his record has far more successes than failures, starting before he even managed us the first time. His only “failures” came at basket case clubs like Ipswich (who’ve sacked 2 manager since him) and Scunthorpe.
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I can only recall one success (singular), the (eventual) promotion back to the FL v Forest Green. I distinctly recall failing a previous playoff final (v Bristol). Two Trophy final defeats (v Halifax and Wrexham) and numerous play off failures at the semi-final stage.

Other that Forest Green he's won nowt (which is the only real definition of 'success') Shrewsbury Ipswich and Scunthorpe were therefore failures

Depends what you consider success…

Interesting that those opposed to Hurst fire out the boring excrement ‘only went up because he changed the shape because monkhouse got injured’ or ‘we scraped in to the playoffs etc’

Remember in 98 when, after spending more money than we’ve spent since to some extent on transfer fees we only just got in the playoffs and only won the final 1-0 and were probably helped out by Peschisolido being a massive girl private in the semi final second leg? Buckley doesn’t get called out for that…

It’s all about view points. The only success we’ve had since 98 was a from a manager that’s currently in charge, who was given time and provided some consistency and stability…there’s not much kicking about that would tickle any one’s fancy so why risk it, just because a few people in the ground moan? Better the devil you know and all that…

Quoted from aldi_01

Depends what you consider success…

Interesting that those opposed to Hurst fire out the boring excrement ‘only went up because he changed the shape because monkhouse got injured’ or ‘we scraped in to the playoffs etc’

Remember in 98 when, after spending more money than we’ve spent since to some extent on transfer fees we only just got in the playoffs and only won the final 1-0 and were probably helped out by Peschisolido being a massive girl private in the semi final second leg? Buckley doesn’t get called out for that…

It’s all about view points. The only success we’ve had since 98 was a from a manager that’s currently in charge, who was given time and provided some consistency and stability…there’s not much kicking about that would tickle any one’s fancy so why risk it, just because a few people in the ground moan? Better the devil you know and all that…

Nobody knows who would apply for the managers job,  but we'll stick with what we've got.
Those few people in the ground moaning won't be at the games much longer if this downward spiral carries on.

Quoted from Mariner_501

Let’s be honest Hurst is absolute dogger.

Shiite at Ipswich, shite at scunny, got us relegated and now this.

The stat last week where he’d won like 18 in his last 100 games or something says it all

Except that stat was proven to be rubbish

Quoted from ackomariner

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Nobody knows who would apply for the managers job,  but we'll stick with what we've got.
Those few people in the ground moaning won't be at the games much longer if this downward spiral carries on.

This is my thinking and the giant man babies who love the club dearly will sack off away games, making them a better day out…

Quoted from Ipswin

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Proven Failure? Whatever you think about PH his record has far more successes than failures, starting before he even managed us the first time. His only “failures” came at basket case clubs like Ipswich (who’ve sacked 2 manager since him) and Scunthorpe.
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I can only recall one success (singular), the (eventual) promotion back to the FL v Forest Green. I distinctly recall failing a previous playoff final (v Bristol). Two Trophy final defeats (v Halifax and Wrexham) and numerous play off failures at the semi-final stage.

Other that Forest Green he's won nowt (which is the only real definition of 'success') Shrewsbury Ipswich and Scunthorpe were therefore failures

So you don’t think him saving Shrewsbury from relegation and then taking them to a play off final the next season was would be classed as a success? And since then they’ve pretty much finished just above relegation every season since.   Take your blinders off mate  and have a reasoned, grown up conversation.

Quoted from Hagrid

Except that stat was proven to be rubbish

Like Hurst

Average 'happy-clapper' here. Always liked Hurst... Felt smug when we started so well, about as smug as a lot of you are coming across now during our demise which probably says a lot doesn't it?

Anyway, first of all, no manager can go 8 losses in 9 without people calling for his head, I totally appreciate that, and I am myself worried whether or not he has completely lost it. However, i don't think we will sack him as long as we are nowhere near relegation. Jason has stated time and again that this is a long term project and he sees Hurst as the man to deliver on that project, OVER TIME.

Baffles me that most people on here said the only important thing yesterday was taking up a McAtee suspension game and we were going to get smashed, but then demand Hurst is ran out of town when we do.

The problem is, many of us who saw the long term agenda and appreciated that comes over time, have had to draw the line so far back on giving Hurst that chance, and the reason for that line is because of people on here and on twitter absolutely losing their minds after 1 defeat. Its hard to agree with people when they so clearly could not wait to get stuck into Hurst. But for what its worth, IMO his job is undoubtedly on thin ice.

Who would replace him? I have no idea, all i do know is that many of you would call for their heads after 1 or 2 losses and set the ball rolling again for the same situation we have now. Managers and players are not immune from the internet, they see comments made particularly on social media and our squad is made up mostly of young 5th tier footballers, not the height of hard skinned professionalism.

The players are to blame for the way they perform on the pitch, Hurst is to blame for signing the players, JS is to blame for keeping Hurst on, and some of us are to blame for our vindictive berating of all of the aforementioned.