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Not sure someone on a forum can say you’ll get some new variant if you’re not vaccinated?
It is interesting to see the responses from those in South Africa to our clear over reaction…
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Les Brechin |
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Poojah |
December 15, 2021, 2:56pm |
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had 3 jabs, had covid
respect those that dont have the vaccine, but bemused by their decision
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Les Brechin |
December 15, 2021, 3:44pm |
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What’s the craic with Halifax (assuming we make it that far)? Official capacity of just over 10,000 is it not?
With it being an all-ticket game they'll have a good idea what the attendance will be and it's never going to be over 10,000 is it, so it'll be okay.
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aldi_01 |
December 15, 2021, 4:04pm |
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Basically won’t ever really affect us unless Notts county fill their ground when we go there or indeed if we reach Wembley…
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Maringer |
December 15, 2021, 4:57pm |
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Not sure someone on a forum can say you’ll get some new variant if you’re not vaccinated?
It is interesting to see the responses from those in South Africa to our clear over reaction…
Interesting claim on a day when the highest number of cases recorded (from the January wave) has been smashed by 15%. Edit: Also, note the 78k number of infections reported today are mostly *new* infections. They don't count reinfection in these numbers and, of course, we know that Omicron easily reinfects many of those who have previously been infected with an earlier variant. UKHSA think we're in the crapper: https://www.theguardian.com/wo.....ic-says-health-chiefRather begs the question why we don't have anything more than plan B which isn't going to do a great deal. Reports out of South Africa are that it is milder, but take this in the context of very different demographics with a much, much younger population, much higher levels of past infections and lower vaccine rollout. Also, initial data out of Denmark indicates it is about the same as Delta for hospitalisations and so forth. I can only hope the South African reports are more accurate because, if not, we're utterly screwed. It's not going to be just the numbers hospitalised - it will be the numbers of people hospitalised over a very short period. Let's hope the boosters can do enough to keep it in check. I do find the fact that so many are blase about this astounding. It simply doesn't make sense.
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Humbercod |
December 15, 2021, 5:09pm |
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Interesting claim on a day when the highest number of cases recorded (from the January wave) has been smashed by 15%.
Just for balance how many tests? More to the point how many hospitalised?
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rancido |
December 15, 2021, 5:19pm |
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I find it very revealing that a number of posters seem against using a vaccine against a pandemic that has killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people throughout the world. They seem to trawl the Press and Internet to produce any snippet of data or statistic that supports their stance while totally ignoring the fact that Covid kills (either directly or more likely indirectly) , affects some people for a long time (Long Covid) and constantly mutates to form variants that could be either more deadly or contagious.
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RobDef1 |
December 15, 2021, 5:31pm |
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I find it very revealing that a number of posters seem against using a vaccine against a pandemic that has killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people throughout the world. They seem to trawl the Press and Internet to produce any snippet of data or statistic that supports their stance while totally ignoring the fact that Covid kills (either directly or more likely indirectly) , affects some people for a long time (Long Covid) and constantly mutates to form variants that could be either more deadly or contagious.
Or mutates to a variant that is less deadly and less dangerous, as seen with omicron. The thing about trawling data, is that it stacks up a lot better against emotive posts like yours that are full of speculation and fear mongering, yet lacking in data. Strange that. And my point isn't against 'using' a vaccine. My point is firmly against 'forcing' a vaccine on people who want to live normally and freely. As said many many times on this thread, the vaccine seems effective for those at risk in reducing their symptoms and giving them a fighting chance against covid. However, as a relatively healthy 29 year old at extremely low risk of dying of covid the vaccine is not only pretty pointless it becomes foolish when it has its own string of risks attached to it, as shown in the data above. Millions of people choose to have the flu jab every year, brilliant, all for it. But millions of people also choose not to, they aren't then forced to live a substandard life because of that choice nor are they asked to explain themselves against a mounting face of prejudice and intolerance.
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