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| February 16, 2021, 10:16pm |
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So, having followed this thread a tiny bit, what are the potential scenarios assuming Town fail to climb out of the League Two relegation zone?
- NL clubs vote to complete the season, season completes: Town are relegated
- NL clubs vote to complete the season: season fails to complete by end of May: Town are reprieved
- NL clubs vote to end the season: Town are reprieved
Are there other scenarios, or is that simple? I've seen it suggested on here that the EFL have already confirmed that they will not allow promotion / relegation to / from League Two in the event that it is able to complete but the NL cannot (i.e. PPG cannot be applied to a promotion scenario only) - is this definitely the case?
If I have it right (and adittedly there's every chance I don't!), you'd have to say that as we enter the second half of February with more than half the season to play for most sides, and the possibility of more postponements due to a combination of weather and Covid, it does look a tall order to get everything completed in time.
Town could finish outside the relegation zone. Actually on second thoughts I think those are the only three scenarios. |
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| February 16, 2021, 10:49pm |
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So, having followed this thread a tiny bit, what are the potential scenarios assuming Town fail to climb out of the League Two relegation zone?
- NL clubs vote to complete the season, season completes: Town are relegated
- NL clubs vote to complete the season: season fails to complete by end of May: Town are reprieved
- NL clubs vote to end the season: Town are reprieved
Are there other scenarios, or is that simple? I've seen it suggested on here that the EFL have already confirmed that they will not allow promotion / relegation to / from League Two in the event that it is able to complete but the NL cannot (i.e. PPG cannot be applied to a promotion scenario only) - is this definitely the case?
If I have it right (and adittedly there's every chance I don't!), you'd have to say that as we enter the second half of February with more than half the season to play for most sides, and the possibility of more postponements due to a combination of weather and Covid, it does look a tall order to get everything completed in time.
We finish bottom , the EFL are gutted at the prospect that they may lose the best run club in the League to non league and come to a behind the scenes deal that if we just slip a couple of boxes of our finest smoked haddock into their HQ they will sort it for us to stay up, just like the old days. Unfortunately as part of the consortiums takeover deal and dock plans the final smoke houses were demolished to make way for a vegan food and smoothie village , EFL arent too chipper about receiving a kale and butternut squash smoothie instead and relegate us after all. |
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| KingstonMariner |
| February 17, 2021, 12:13am |
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I think come the end of the month the vote will not matter. Clubs who stand no chance of promotion will think why carry on with a loan. If we do a Dover then the season will have to end.
Can any chairman justify taking a loan to have his club relegated. It will not matter what those at the top want, and vote for, they have to play those at the bottom end of the league. No match's means the league will fold, it's not a matter of if, but when.
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| GollyGTFC |
| February 17, 2021, 6:47am |
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So, having followed this thread a tiny bit, what are the potential scenarios assuming Town fail to climb out of the League Two relegation zone?
- NL clubs vote to complete the season, season completes: Town are relegated
- NL clubs vote to complete the season: season fails to complete by end of May: Town are reprieved
- NL clubs vote to end the season: Town are reprieved
Are there other scenarios, or is that simple? I've seen it suggested on here that the EFL have already confirmed that they will not allow promotion / relegation to / from League Two in the event that it is able to complete but the NL cannot (i.e. PPG cannot be applied to a promotion scenario only) - is this definitely the case?
If I have it right (and adittedly there's every chance I don't!), you'd have to say that as we enter the second half of February with more than half the season to play for most sides, and the possibility of more postponements due to a combination of weather and Covid, it does look a tall order to get everything completed in time.
Another scenario is they vote to continue, a few clubs follow Dover’s lead and threaten legal action and the league descends into chaos with so many games postponed that there is no possibility of the season finishing and the NL is null and void by default. |
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| GollyGTFC |
| February 17, 2021, 6:55am |
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Worth considering the reports that a significant number of clubs haven’t voted yet and will only do so at the last moment including some who have voiced the opinion that they “want” to continue.
Why? If they were going to continue at all costs they would have voted already wouldn’t they? I am starting to think the vote will be a lot closer than some are predicting and might even be either 11-11 (with Wrexham abstaining) or a slender win for null and void.
Clubs waiting for a change of government policy suggests they will vote null and void when the government don’t back down (which they won’t).
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| supertown |
| February 17, 2021, 7:51am |
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There could be half a dozen who follow Wrexham’s lead
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| MarinerGaz |
| February 17, 2021, 8:05am |
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There could be half a dozen who follow Wrexham’s lead
Wrexham are only abstaining as they do not qualify for the loans, all the other clubs are directly affected. |
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| pen penfras |
| February 17, 2021, 8:40am |
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Wrexham are only abstaining as they do not qualify for the loans, all the other clubs are directly affected.
That's not a reason to abstain. I think they're doing it because they don't want to make an unpopular decision either way and their new owners will keep them going this season if they have to. |
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| Marinerdeano |
| February 17, 2021, 9:25am |
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Worth considering the reports that a significant number of clubs haven’t voted yet and will only do so at the last moment including some who have voiced the opinion that they “want” to continue.
Why? If they were going to continue at all costs they would have voted already wouldn’t they? I am starting to think the vote will be a lot closer than some are predicting and might even be either 11-11 (with Wrexham abstaining) or a slender win for null and void.
Clubs waiting for a change of government policy suggests they will vote null and void when the government don’t back down (which they won’t).
Perhaps some are waiting to see how realistic a playoff bid really is and if some teams begin to pull away by end of February cast their vote then. |
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| ginnywings |
| February 17, 2021, 11:21am |
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They are all waiting for the big Bojo roadmap announcement on Monday. Think there is zero chance fans will be allowed into grounds anytime soon, and the grant/loan situation isn't going to change either, so with the time to vote running out fast, we will know next week which way the vote goes.
If they vote to carry on, it won't end there because some will simply refuse to play or put out weakened sides.
I cannot see a way that the league will continue as a full and fair competition, so it will then be down to the powers that be to decide what is, or is not, acceptable regarding promotion and relegation to and from the NL.
There could also be legal challenges from both NL and EFL teams.
It's a complete mess, and to my mind, without fans, it's pointless to carry on, just so 2 teams from about 6 or 7 have a shot at promotion to the detriment of everybody else who can't afford to carry on.
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