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grimsby pete |
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Not bad points under Shankley bearing in mind 2 points for a win in them days.
Sorry old bean but you have spelt your name wrong, There is no e in Shankly
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140348 |
September 24, 2018, 2:22pm |
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Sorry old bean but you have spelt your name wrong, There is no e in Shankly
Shame you didn't tell my father how to spell his name. Your right about Bills spelling errors. Bit bored in Suffolk are you.
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RichMariner |
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I think Michael Jolley might be over-thinking and over-complicating things.
He's qualified up to the eyeballs in everything that is football. He's coached and helped develop a load of youngsters in the game and showed some tactical nous in his (brief) stint in Sweden.
Last season he came in, stuck to 4-4-2 and simplified the game. You could see how he settled things down and went back to basics in a way Slade promised but never delivered on.
I think Jolley compromised, to some degree, on his own tactical beliefs in order to steady a ship rather than set sail with it.
Now, it seems he's had time to assemble a squad of his own players and build it to a formation (and a set of tactics) that he's had in his mind all along. And while these tactics and formations might be forward thinking or even quite radical, they're clearly not working at this level.
I don't think I could doubt his understanding of the game, or his man-management because, as a player who never played the game professionally, you wouldn't be where he was if you didn't know everything inside out.
I think he's asking fourth division footballers to play in a way that they don't have the technical or mental ability to carry out. Some of them might be capable but, as a collective, it's not gelling.
I'm hoping that, like last season, he can compromise on what he believes and accept that he won't be able to demonstrate his credentials for the sake of playing a system that our players understand fully.
Five defeats on the trot with a chronic lack of goals is concerning - especially if you measure it against the way we finished last season. He's had 19 league games in charge of us now and we've won just 5 times.
I'm surprised by the way we've started this season but we almost need to stop what we're doing, go back to basics in the same way we did last season, and see what happens before Christmas.
A couple more defeats to nil and I fear for his future.
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September 24, 2018, 2:49pm |
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So I get a red cross for highlighting Shankley was spelt wrong.
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GollyGTFC |
September 24, 2018, 5:56pm |
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Quoted from 140348
Not bad points under Shankley bearing in mind 2 points for a win in them days.
I should have said that for sake of comparison all seasons prior to 1981 have been recalculated with 3 points for a win.
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September 24, 2018, 9:31pm |
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The most important stat is there are 37 games left in the season
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KingstonMariner |
September 24, 2018, 9:46pm |
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Or keep him and we might be in the National League in 12 months!
It'd probably just be deferring the inevitable if we replace him and if we do manage to find someone better.
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September 24, 2018, 10:38pm |
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Last season he came in, stuck to 4-4-2and simplified the game. You could see how he settled things down and went back to basics in a way Slade promised but never delivered on. .
Eh? We didn't play 4-4-2 under jolley last season, We played 4-3-3/4-5-1
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GollyGTFC |
September 25, 2018, 9:25am |
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Eh? We didn't play 4-4-2 under jolley last season, We played 4-3-3/4-5-1
Jolley tried playing 3-5-2 and it failed miserably and then he switched and played the current 4-1-4-1 at the end of the season... Team was something like... McKeown Hall-Johnson Clarke Collins Fox Rose Clifton Summerfield Woolford Hooper Cardwell And we didn't score many goals under MJ last season either. MJ has had 20 league games in charge & we've only scored 17 goals in that time. And 5 of those have been penalties. So we've scored 12 goals from open play in 20 under MJ. Which is utter shite!
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grimsby pete |
September 25, 2018, 9:51am |
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Jolley tried playing 3-5-2 and it failed miserably and then he switched and played the current 4-1-4-1 at the end of the season...And we didn't score many goals under MJ last season either.
MJ has had 20 league games in charge & we've only scored 17 goals in that time. And 5 of those have been penalties. So we've scored 12 goals from open play in 20 under MJ. Which is utter shite!
Looking at those set of stats is depressing .
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