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| January 10, 2018, 10:12pm |
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How much does he stand to make on the proposed new site development, isn't the land is owned by Fenty's son in law's family?
I thought the land was owned by the council? |
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| FishOutOfWater |
| January 10, 2018, 10:16pm |
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Are you suggesting he wasn't telling the truth?! 
I'm prepared to take him at his word KM  If JF has written off the loans "in his head" though, I do wonder why he's not actually written them off in reality  |
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| KingstonMariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:22pm |
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Quoted from 120790
Huh, maybe not. Football is a fragile business at our level. Ask the Hartlepools
Which is exactly why his loans and shares are not worth their face value. Without the fans there is no business.The most he would get is the value of the land (minus the cost of demolishing the stadium, disposing of the rubble and restoring the land to a safe condition for building houses on). But then you'd already understand that being so business savvy wouldn't you. And it's all very well saying people are too emotional about it. JF himself is an emotional person - he loves GTFC with a passion. In the doomsday scenario his legacy then would be the man who killed off Grimsby Town Football Club. So JF would not think about the thing in a wholly dispassionate way. You try to come across as the wise man who 'understands business', but you're really just a patronising muppet with an over-inflated sense of your own abilities. |
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| friskneymariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:25pm |
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Ascend really is an intellectual lightweight like all those who have dogmatic ideological views he has no cogent response when challenged,he lives in his black and white world where there are no shades of grey,he does his cause no good at all.
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| Swansea_Mariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:29pm |
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Quoted from 120790
High net worth individual... I suggest you google it.
What the hell has the NHS got to do with the football business.
You are beginning to sound like a trade unionist
He's bang on actually privatizing the profits socialising the losses, it's the same concept both in this context and the trend towards the deconstruction of the nhs. |
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| headingly_mariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:33pm |
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Quoted from 120790
Huh, maybe not. Football is a fragile business at our level. Ask the Hartlepools
It was a rich man that copulated them up. |
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| KingstonMariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:34pm |
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Depends on your definition of high net worth,I know some very rich people who are totally devoid of any ethical values would you say those are high net worth?
No,sorry yes of course you would because like you only value people by their monetary value not what they contribute to society as a whole, well forgive me you sound like a materialistic conservative who only values things in monetary terms.
Being a committed anarchist all my life why would I partake in anything as hierarchical and organised as a Union.
Away days become exciting again after the people's takeover of the football club. A las barricadas! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97slLgT48dM |
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| headingly_mariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:36pm |
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Quoted from 120790
Im sorry, and don’t take this the wrong way, but you are living in a strange world if you genuinely believe that. Certainly not the business world.
In this day and age, the word “Club” really isn’t appropriate any longer in football. No longer is Football a member based environment. It’s now, moreso than ever before, a very tough and difficult business world.
Supporters are merely that, people that will love their club, live their club and worship their heroes and legends when they come and go. Their non attendance and low morale may even influence an owner to fire a manager. But that’s as far as it goes
To keep a business going like GTFC takes a huge amount of finance and passion to part with that cash. It’s a business transaction though. Owners have every right to protect their loan, to expect to get it back.
Without a high net worth individual like Mr Fenty, you wouldn’t be having an emotive conversation about your beloved football team, because frankly it would be dead and gone years ago.
Are you suggesting that a football club couldn't survive without a rich man lending it money? |
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| KingstonMariner |
| January 10, 2018, 10:40pm |
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Quoted from 120790
High net worth individual... I suggest you google it.
What the hell has the NHS got to do with the football business.
You are beginning to sound like a trade unionist
Put this in simple terms for you Descend. People value the NHS. You can say they have an emotional attachment to it. People regard it as theirs. Mess around with it at your peril. Even Conservatives understand that. People value GTFC*. People also have an emotional attachment to it. Mess around with it at your peril. (*disclaimer: people feel the same way about other football clubs too) |
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| GrimRob |
| January 10, 2018, 10:50pm |
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Quoted from 120790
Says the man whose signature reads:-
Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm.
I wasn't proposing doing it myself, but the question was raised about investing millions (which none of us have). It does raise the interesting question of what a club is and I believe it is the supporters. If nearly every GTFC fan decided to support a different team (as happened with AFC Wimbledon) then the other side would in effect become Town. |
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