Scotland  v  England.

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The SNP government said that they wanted to keep the queen as a sop to try and win over middle ground votes. The vast majority of the independence campaigners, certainly that I know, wanted to be become a republic and have the money spent on Scottish infrastructure and services rather than the royals. I think it has almost become the norm nowadays to boo certain national anthems it? Anyway, the bit in it about wanting to vanquish the Scots might have had something to do with it.

The whole thing about independence isn't simply going to go away now though Peter, and these are still exciting times politically up here.

Anyway, back to the fitba. Didn't watch the game as I was otherwise engaged in training for some voluntary work, but it sounded as if the defeat was well merited. Looking at it from Strachan's view I suppose it's good to get those kind of results out of the way in friendly games. He'll certainly have plenty to do to ensure it doesn't happen again in a competitive match, luckily it's Gibraltar at home! I know a good number of fitba friends of mine who refused to go because of the ridiculous price asking for a ticket (£60) Twice what it was to watch Scotland in Dortmund play the world champions!

There was a time when the famous tartan army would save up all their pennies to see Scotland play England, the Scottish fans were embarrassingly poor in their support even before England scored .  If the jocks had made the same noise as the England fans did the commentators would be gushing all that passionate scots nonsense. Heard the scots singing for about 2 minutes throughout the whole game and they pretend to be the best supporters, with their wigs and tartan they have become a caricature of themselves

Probably because their team, by all accounts, were pish. Abroad it's a totally different kettle of fish. I went with some lads from my village to Dortmund for the game against Germany and it was amazing from setting foot into the city centre fan zone just after breakfast to the end of the game. Biggest away international following they've ever had in Dortmund, and no trouble whatsoever. City centre had something in the region of 7,000 plus Scots and 3,000 Germans just having one big party.

There's footage on youtube of Polish fans clapping Scotland out of the stadium after the 2-2 draw there the other month because of their support.

It's no different to watching any club, you always make more noise when you're away from home with a few scoops inside you.

Quoted from jock dock tower

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That's because you have been living in Scotland too long John,

Us English folk are far too reserved to boo our opposition.  

Quoted from jock dock tower

Probably because their team, by all accounts, were pish. Abroad it's a totally different kettle of fish. I went with some lads from my village to Dortmund for the game against Germany and it was amazing from setting foot into the city centre fan zone just after breakfast to the end of the game. Biggest away international following they've ever had in Dortmund, and no trouble whatsoever. City centre had something in the region of 7,000 plus Scots and 3,000 Germans just having one big party.

There's footage on youtube of Polish fans clapping Scotland out of the stadium after the 2-2 draw there the other month because of their support.

It's no different to watching any club, you always make more noise when you're away from home with a few scoops inside you.

I`m sure the English fans were clapped out of the stadium by the men in skirts or do they only take plaudits?

To be honest I couldn't tell you as I wasn't there. I do know that the guys from my village who went down to London for the game a wee while back had a great time of it there mingling freely with the English fans.