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Maybe its all Parkers fault ???????
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I am not into the blame game,
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I don't think The Dynamic Duo are " hoof ball " managers. I think they try to get the team to mix the play with a passing game and playing down the channels. Unfortunately during the Stockport and Nuneaton games when we seem to be getting nowhere the back line just kicked it forward regardless. This could be a lack of confidence or just panic measures but it certainly wasn't what The Dynamic Duo wanted. These two guys have both had long , reasonably successful careers as footballers and as such they know a good player from a bad one and also have their own ideas on how they want the game played.
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You're being generous there - Peacock was hopelessly ineffective during all of his time at Blundell Park. In his final season, he barely broke into a sweat until after Christmas when he started looking for a new contract. Extremely poor indeed.
That said, I'm not denying he might be correct about Shorty and Shouty's man management not being suitable for the modern era.
Unfortunately, the days where players could be cowed into knuckling down and performing well seem to have gone so the likes of Clough and Buckley couldn't manage successfully these days. Remember how Buckley Mk. III was at a complete loss as to what to do with the players at times?
The surprising thing is that none of the players seem to have much in the way of character about them so aren't embarrassed to put in half-arsed performances. You'd think that effort should surely be the least that can be expected from professional footballers, but apparently not.
Not sure about that. Sir Alex is hardly a marriage guidance councellor, but his trophy cabinet is pretty packed. I doubt Clough would struggle either. I think though that there is a difference between strong forceful leadership, and just shouting f words at players. That is the crucial distinction. |
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Make your mind up or are you just selective when it comes to blame?
I said maybe, it was a question hence the question marks, I promise I will be more careful what I post in future, Since I might have a stalker.  |
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it?
Cooper isn't THAT good of a manager. His record at Tamworth is very poor. Yes, you could say that his record was very good at Kettering, but he was heavily backed by Ladak and a lot of these good results came in the Blue Square North.
Within 5 months of Cooper's tenure at Darlington, fans were calling for his head after draws against Eastbourne (9 men), and Bath City, as well as defeats at home to Wrexham and Hayes and Yeading. He turned it around and obviously got us to Wembley but our run wasn't exactly hard as we defeated Tamworth, Bath City, AFC Telford, Salisbury, Gateshead, and Mansfield. Not exactly hard when the semi-finalists and finalists both finished mid-table in the Conference, is it?
The season after, Cooper spunked a big budget and we failed. By the last few games we had gone back to basics, and he had traditionally brought in a few panic signings such as James Gray, Nialle Rodney, and his love-child Exodus Geohaghon.
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Not sure about that. Sir Alex is hardly a marriage guidance councellor, but his trophy cabinet is pretty packed. I doubt Clough would struggle either. I think though that there is a difference between strong forceful leadership, and just shouting f words at players. That is the crucial distinction.
Clough was failing when he retired. Though how much of that was down to the booze, I don't know. Ferguson is a bit of a different case because, although he's an old-style manager, he's been endlessly successful for donkey's years. Not to mention the fact that he's managed pretty much the biggest club in the world for all those years so he's been able to buy some of the best players around! It must be tricky for the majority of managers at virtually every other club these days as nobody has any security of tenure. It doesn't take too much of a dip in form for them to be given the hook. On the other hand, at lower division clubs, the players don't tend to stick around for more than a year or two either! I reckon luck must play a reasonable part in the success of lack thereof of some managers. |
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I commented above about the Nuneaton game. Subsequent posters said that the players just got it wrong once they crossed the white line. Well ok, but can you imagine Fergie's players doing that? The book stops with the manager(s). They seem to have rectified this collective poor performance by the Mansfield game.
I also made the comment that a quick fix is needed. I did not clarify this. I did not mean a change of management. I meant getting (say) an influential midfielder or a good win. The Mansfield game took the pressure off the team and managers. It will also built confidence, a critical commodity.
In response to the point made that "there is no quick fix in football". Generally very true. Success is built over time - or with a very rich benefactor.
Thanoj will make a good creative midfielder for us. He needs time to develop his game and does not need "10 years of poor midfields" hanging around his neck at this stage of his career.
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How times change!
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I'm gonna worry when we are not top of the league... to be honest.. gettin out of this excrement is all I care about gettin back into the league is all that matters... if S & H do it for us... bloody marvellous....!!! If they dont.. they've given us more to shout about than many others have over the last 10 years.... I cudnt give a flying hoot if Mickey and Minnie Mouse were in charge so long as we do the business... and we appear to be doin it at the moment... Might not be pretty... might not be nice every week... but so far results are going for us.... I have got so many things crossed for success this season that my eyes are watering..... Keep the Faith !!!  |
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