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It wouldn't be an English summer without the traditional batting collapse!!!!
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It wouldn't be an English summer without the traditional batting collapse!!!!
If only our collapses were limited to our summers then we’d be a half decent outfit. We don’t discriminate-we’re quite open to giving away our wickets in everyone else’s summers too! |
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If only our collapses were limited to our summers then we’d be a half decent outfit.
We don’t discriminate-we’re quite open to giving away our wickets in everyone else’s summers too!
Glad I haven't got tickets for days 4 and 5......even day 3 for that matter! |
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Glad I haven't got tickets for days 4 and 5......even day 3 for that matter!
Ha! No kidding! England and their collapses doing their best to ensure 4 day tests become the standard format by default! |
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Ha! No kidding! England and their collapses doing their best to ensure 4 day tests become the standard format by default!
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New Zealand have joined in the spirit by also collapsing. Perhaps all the payers fancy Sunday off to go watch Town.
Not much change this morning. Our tail didn't hang around for long and NZ are back at the crease, almost losing a wicket in the first over to a run out.
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Potts has Williamson again.
NZ already 2 down. Crazy game.
Make that 3 down. Potts has another.
Some debut this.
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Potts has Williamson again.
NZ already 2 down. Crazy game.
Make that 3 down. Potts has another.
Some debut this.
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Has there ever been a two day test?
Think it was mentioned today that there were one or two in the very distant past when some teams were just not up to test cricket in their infancy. Not that it matters now. NZ have shaken off their jet lag and a merrily amassing a huge lead after an early wobble. I predict they will declare and rip through our pathetic batting to win by a big score. |
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The 2 new lads Broad and Anderson have definitely got bright futures in the game!
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Johnny Bairstow is a sad indictment of the troubles we have with batting.
With an average of mid 30s (which is prolific for this team) and recent centuries he’s not a surprise selection even though he’s been playing see ball-hit ball.
However, the amount of times he’s bowled through the gate is ridiculous. He seems incapable of defending his wicket at times.
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Is it on?????
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I’m not falling for that one!
I say yes and we fail and then you and the Batsmen will say I jinxed them (well you might but you get my point).😊
We have a very long tail too!
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I’m not falling for that one!
I say yes and we fail and then you and the Batsmen will say I jinxed them (well you might but you get my point).😊
We have a very long tail too!
We do. These two need to get us within 25/30. Even then, as long as Root is there he could get us home within 3/4 overs. |
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Johnny Bairstow is a sad indictment of the troubles we have with batting.
With an average of mid 30s (which is prolific for this team) and recent centuries he’s not a surprise selection even though he’s been playing see ball-hit ball.
However, the amount of times he’s bowled through the gate is ridiculous. He seems incapable of defending his wicket at times.
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Michael Vaughan called it ‘pathetic’’ and it’s hard to disagree. This fundamental flaw in his game is really hard to excuse given his experience. It’s basic stuff really.
I very rarely disagree with what he says about cricket as he’s very honest and spot on the majority of the time. I fully expect Bairstow to get up to speed but he should have been back earlier and getting in to ‘proper’ cricket mode. If he didn’t want to come back early then you select Harry Brook who has been in fine form across all formats. If Harry then takes his opportunity then I’m sorry but that’s tough luck. |
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What a man Root is!!!
Although I didn’t expect him to, he could have sulked but instead does what he does best!
Outstanding century and a great team man!
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What do I know?
Didn't see that coming but Root is just different class. The way him and Foakes knocked off the 61 needed this morning was faultless.
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England chasing big total in 2nd test - lost a wicket already and a dropped catch - not looking good
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Looking a bit better now! Unbelievable innings from Bairstow.
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Wow!!!
An absolute privilege to watch that
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I suspect that the Twenty20 era will see more occasions like this, but also more occasions where we get bowled out for less than 100!
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Almost as remarkable as Town winning the play offs.
Took the dog for a walk just as Bairstow came in. It was all over when I got back. Couldn't believe what I was seeing when I checked the score.
Just watched the highlights. Wow!
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I live in Notts and took advantage of the free ticket offer (inspired decision by Notts CCC). Trent Bridge was full, the atmosphere was amazing and that period after tea was the most bonkers session of Test cricket I've ever seen. Bairstow batted like he was playing a cricket video game set on "easy". At one point Henry had his fielders all set back on the leg side, kept bouncing Bairstow, and Bairstow kept plonking him into the stands. I've never seen such consistent, clean hitting.
Stokes was in on the act, too. I was sat in the Radcliffe Road upper (the big stand behind the bower's arm) and he whacked a six off Bracewell over our heads, right up the back of the biggest stand in the ground.
If this is what England Test cricket is going to be like under Stokes and McCullum then we're in for an entertaining ride.
What with this and Town, sports-wise we've had a right treat recently!
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Just adding to this - I was at Twickenham yesterday - Leicester Tigers - winning the championship with a drop goal with 22 secs left on the clock. They went early of course...Holohan equalised with 15 secs left...Town, England cricket and Leicester - sporting nirvana for me this Fathers Day...
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England collapse.
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What a stand form Bairstow and Overton.
When he is on it, Bairstow is a joy to watch and what an innings from the debutant bowler.
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Johnny Bairstow is a sad indictment of the troubles we have with batting.
With an average of mid 30s (which is prolific for this team) and recent centuries he’s not a surprise selection even though he’s been playing see ball-hit ball.
However, the amount of times he’s bowled through the gate is ridiculous. He seems incapable of defending his wicket at times.
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I know it doesn't reflect well on me Sandford, but I had to dig this one out.
😂 I stand by it. He’s a shoo in this side but he has a shocking record of being bowled. 2 absolutely outstanding 1 day innings doesn’t change that. |
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Bairstow is an all or nothing type batter. Can either get you out of trouble, or put you further in it, but as I say, when he's flying, there's no better site.
Root is elegant and has all the technique in the world, but Jonny is brutal when he gets going.
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😂
I stand by it.
He’s a shoo in this side but he has a shocking record of being bowled. 2 absolutely outstanding 1 day innings doesn’t change that.
He certainly has flaws but all he needs is a destructive session to take the game away from a side. The interesting time will be when this new look approach backfires, which it will. That said, I actually thought the first 30 minutes of this innings was very disciplined given the chaos he walked out to. |
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He certainly has flaws but all he needs is a destructive session to take the game away from a side. The interesting time will be when this new look approach backfires, which it will. That said I actually thought the first 30 minutes of this innings was very disciplined given the chaos he walked out to.
If he finds some consistency which his recent form over the last year (ish) suggests he has, then he could be a brilliant player for us. The idea before was runs on the board and then our destructive middle order could let loose. The flaw in that plan was, we rarely got the runs. Under the new regime it’s go out and smash it regardless. Like Mitchell he benefited from an inexplicable failure to review a leg before that felt out to me in real time. |
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If he finds some consistency which his recent form over the last year (ish) suggests he has, then he could be a brilliant player for us.
The idea before was runs on the board and then our destructive middle order could let loose. The flaw in that plan was, we rarely got the runs. Under the new regime it’s go out and smash it regardless.
Like Mitchell he benefited from an inexplicable failure to review a leg before that felt out to me in real time.
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Did he? Thought it was Overton?
Apologies my mistake -I must have got mixed up in the excitement. Was it Bairstow that Wagner put down or was that Overton too? So much happened!! (yes I’m looking for excuses-I can’t have its Just my age and ever diminishing grey matter 😊). |
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Forget the 3 you didn’t get and look at the 97 you did get Overton lad! Absolutely brilliant
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I know it doesn't reflect well on me Sandford, but I had to dig this one out.
Just so you have some ammunition for the future when you feel like having a bit of fun at my expense-it was only last test I was questioning whether Leach was good enough to be England’s front line spinner!! 😂 |
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I can get used to this work from home thing with TMS on…present on the Teams call but muted…why would I want to go back in the office just to give fuel duty to the Tories…
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I can get used to this work from home thing with TMS on…present on the Teams call but muted…why would I want to go back in the office just to give fuel duty to the Tories…
Even better sat on a bench on the seafront with a cup of coffee, listening to TMS. We are breaking all sorts of records every game we play since Stokes and McCullum took the reins. The turnaround is incredible. I didn't think we had a prayer of chasing down this total against a world class bowling attack, but are only 119 off the target after today, with 7 wickets in hand. Could still go pear shaped, but it's great to see the positivity in going for it with all guns blazing. |
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Even better sat on a bench on the seafront with a cup of coffee, listening to TMS.
We are breaking all sorts of records every game we play since Stokes and McCullum took the reins. The turnaround is incredible. I didn't think we had a prayer of chasing down this total against a world class bowling attack, but are only 119 off the target after today, with 7 wickets in hand.
Could still go pear shaped, but it's great to see the positivity in going for it with all guns blazing.
It's the England cricket team, can always go pear shaped, but typically England would have already lost this test. I watch Bairstow and just think how is he doing that, is he smoking what Vivvy used to smoke before going out to bat completely carefree and relaxed...? |
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Bairstow has been nothing short of sensational and him nailing down 5 will help us no end though Ben Foakes may be nervous.
Joe Root though has been equally if not more impressive in a typically unassuming way. I mentioned it previously but, to perform as he has after giving up the captaincy has been admirable to say the least. It’s a measure of the man that he could put his (bruised) ego aside and perform for his great mate and team.
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however its incredible to watch, and im delighted to see us shut that overhyped tosser Virat up
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call me boring, but i dont think this is test cricket as we know it!
however its incredible to watch, and im delighted to see us shut that overhyped tosser Virat up
Recently someone said that Jon Nolan was the most overrated player in the last 20 years and you labelled it a ridiculous statement. Jon Nolan was a good lower division football player. But you can call Virat Kohli who averages around 50 across 3 formats in international cricket overhyped! That’s a skewed perspective. Though I do agree it’s nice to shut his mouth and he’s in bad touch. Terminal decline? Perhaps! or in need of a break from the game? Most probably! |
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He is only the fourth England player to score four centuries in five Tests.
He is the first player in Test history to score six centuries in a calendar year batting at five or lower.
He is the 12th England player to have two centuries in the same Test.
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Captaining India is a ridiculously tough gig and Kohli's record as Captain and batsmen is superb. I might be in a minority but I like him. It's annoying at times but he's been completely committed to test cricket and shows huge passion for it. He had a proper word with Root and Bairstow at the end to congratulate them on the way they'd played.
As for it not being test cricket as we know it, sport evolves. People have different skills nowadays and England are utilising them. Lot of very classic shots in that partnership as well. We kept getting beaten when we were trying to grind and the first Test at Lord's had tickets available. Suspect any available tickets for South Africa are being hoovered up as we speak!
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Shelling peas.
I'm a big lover of test cricket and for me it is the best format, but the white ball game can be really exciting, so to combine the two disciplines the way this England team have, has been a match made in heaven for me.
We may just have re-invented test cricket here and other countries will be taking note.
May not please the old duffers at Lords, but if it revitalises the test game, then I'm all for it.
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Our highest-ever successful pursuit to win a test and it was done at an absolute canter. Amazing what a bit of confidence can do for a team.
However, I think we'll need to prepare ourselves for the odd occasion when 'Bazball' doesn't work out and we find ourselves all-out for about 70 runs!
A slightly more circumspect approach will probably be required when we're touring and playing on less familiar surfaces/different conditions.
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Does anyone else think it would be more humane to put Crawley out his misery? He’s looked woefully out of touch for some time and hasn’t been overly convincing in the 100 either.
I know that it’s been exciting since Stokes and McCullum took over but I still think there’s a balance to be found and we’ve not quite mastered it yet. There’s a thin line between brave and stupid and these South Africans are a proper bowling unit.
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Does anyone else think it would be more humane to put Crawley out his misery? He’s looked woefully out of touch for some time and hasn’t been overly convincing in the 100 either.
I know that it’s been exciting since Stokes and McCullum took over but I still think there’s a balance to be found and we’ve not quite mastered it yet. There’s a thin line between brave and stupid and these South Africans are a proper bowling unit.
Crawley needs the hook. Doesn't mean his test career is over but he needs to get back to county cricket, get his head down and work on his technique and confidence. As for the England approach, we'll see after both sides have had an innings, but it doesn't look pretty when the wickets are tumbling. Some class bowling today mind. |
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Crawley needs the hook. Doesn't mean his test career is over but he needs to get back to county cricket, get his head down and work on his technique and confidence.
As for the England approach, we'll see after both sides have had an innings, but it doesn't look pretty when the wickets are tumbling. Some class bowling today mind.
Indeed I am looking forward to seeing what our bowlers can do on this pitch and with these over heads. Who would you be looking at in relation to the opening batsman slot once you’ve dropped Crawley? |
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Indeed I am looking forward to seeing what our bowlers can do on this pitch and with these over heads.
Who would you be looking at in relation to the opening batsman slot once you’ve dropped Crawley?
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Certainly not Rory Burns!
So who would you go for? |
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Certainly not Rory Burns!
I’m pretty confident (and obviously I don’t know you) that you would get more runs than Crawley at the minute, let alone Geoff Boycott’s aunt with a stick of rhubarb!!! |
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I’m pretty confident (and obviously I don’t know you) that you would get more runs than Crawley at the minute, let alone Geoff Boycott’s aunt with a stick of rhubarb!!!
im certain of it! i've just seen that he's out yet again. Surely he has to be dropped. i did once score a rather memorable 47 against Cleethorpes |
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Indeed I am looking forward to seeing what our bowlers can do on this pitch and with these over heads.
Who would you be looking at in relation to the opening batsman slot once you’ve dropped Crawley?
Therein lies the problem. There is no one standing out to be given a chance but sometimes someone unexpected comes in and just takes to test cricket. The fact that we've tried just about every eligible opening batsman over the last few years without much success shows how much of a dearth of decent batsmen are out there. They'll be asking Cook to come back if it carries on. |
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I genuinely reckon Cook, even now, would score more.
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Those hoping for a day out at Lords tomorrow will be looking for something else to do.
England are getting decimated....again.
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Those hoping for a day out at Lords tomorrow will be looking for something else to do.
England are getting decimated....again.
You have to respect the attack that’s in front of you and the South Africans have every base covered to me. They look a well rounded unit capable of running through most line ups. However, our approach along with our insistence on picking our out of form opener have contributed to this game massively. On the subject of Crawley’s replacement I think you have to take an educated punt on someone who maybe doesn’t have an outstanding average for their club (Tom Abell perhaps) or give a former batsman another crack. Unless they just stubbornly persist until Crawley turns it around at which point they can say ‘we told you so!’. |
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this is the england we know...
embarrassingly poor performance
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You have to respect the attack that’s in front of you and the South Africans have every base covered to me. They look a well rounded unit capable of running through most line ups.
However, our approach along with our insistence on picking our out of form opener have contributed to this game massively.
On the subject of Crawley’s replacement I think you have to take an educated punt on someone who maybe doesn’t have an outstanding average for their club (Tom Abell perhaps) or give a former batsman another crack.
Unless they just stubbornly persist until Crawley turns it around at which point they can say ‘we told you so!’.
Sibley is being mooted to be given another go. Not a great average of 29 in tests but at least he's scored a few 50's and 100's for England and can hang about the crease for a while. |
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Sibley is being mooted to be given another go.
Not a great average of 29 in tests but at least he's scored a few 50's and 100's for England and can hang about the crease for a while.
He has remodelled his stance somewhat which should help open his scoring options at international level. With that unorthodox method he had, it really limited his ability to score and rotate strike. Obviously with the approach now he’ll need to be more proactive. He’s been with the lions so the door is not closed on him! |
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Credit where it is due because that was much more like it from Crawley. Test match application is what is required and there is no shame in being ‘done’ by that delivery.
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Great all round display from the skip, and there is no finer sight than Jimmy sending an off stump spinning away…
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Oops! England at it again. Losing to Ireland.
Im in the middle of a period of not sleeping so I watched it live unfortunately. I’d have been mightily drunk off if I had got up especially. We managed to drag ourselves down to their level (again) and I don’t begrudge them the win at all. It was really poor batting (again) and people are having a pop at Malan (again) which gets right on my nerves. We have it all to do! |
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To beat Australia, New Zealand and Sri Lanka successively (which is probably what is needed now) is a.big ask but would create huge momentum for the semis!
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To beat Australia, New Zealand and Sri Lanka successively (which is probably what is needed now) is a.big ask but would create huge momentum for the semis!
There is nothing like the knock out format to focus minds. As the BBC cricket correspondents have been keen to point out, the World Cup winners faced a similar scenario in that tournament. Let’s hope history repeats!🤞 |
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Pakistan are now also in trouble, having lost to Zimbabwe by one run.
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Wheels have fell off a bit at the end here. Regular wickets falling have curtailed our score a bit, but we have a competitive total.
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Wheels have fell off a bit at the end here. Regular wickets falling have curtailed our score a bit, but we have a competitive total.
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Good performance after the Ireland debacle.
Thought we were short of runs but bowled well generally.
Curran superb.
Permutations ,England advantage playing last.
New Zealand
Played: 4, Points: 5, NRR: 2.233, Remaining match: vs Ire (Adelaide)
Despite the defeat against England, New Zealand are still reasonably well-placed to qualify. A win by any margin in their last game against Ireland should be enough. Even if they win by just one run, Australia will have to win by around 152 runs, and England by around 95, for both teams to go past New Zealand's excellent net run rate (NRR), which is currently at 2.233.
However, if New Zealand lose to Ireland on Friday, then they will have to hope that Australia lose to Afghanistan as well. Then, New Zealand (unless they've lost by a huge margin) will qualify along with the winner of the England-Sri Lanka game.
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Played: 4, Points: 5, NRR: 0.547, Remaining match: vs SL (Sydney)
England are level on points with New Zealand and Australia. Their NRR of 0.547 is ahead of Australia's -0.304, but well behind New Zealand's 2.233. If all three teams win their final matches, then it will obviously come down to NRR. As explained above, New Zealand are comfortably ahead on this aspect.
If Australia score 180 and beat Afghanistan by 60 runs on Friday, then England will need to beat Sri Lanka by at least 10 runs on Saturday to stay ahead on NRR. That means the difference in margins need be roughly up to 50 runs for England to stay ahead. From England's point of view, they will know exactly what they need to do as they play the last game of the group.
If England lose to Sri Lanka, though, then they will almost certainly be knocked out even if New Zealand and Australia lose their last games, as they are far behind New Zealand on NRR and in such a scenario Sri Lanka will go above the lot on points.
Australia
Played: 4, Points: 5, NRR: -0.304, Remaining match: vs Afg (Adelaide)
As explained above, Australia will get into an unfavourable NRR battle with New Zealand and England if all three teams win their last games in the group. What they would much rather prefer, obviously, is for them to beat Afghanistan, and for at least one of New Zealand or England to lose their last game. They will then qualify without NRRs coming into play.
However, since they play on Friday, before England's game against Sri Lanka, Australia will have to go for as big a win as possible. If, for instance, they chase a target of 120 in 12 overs, England will need to chase down 150 in around 17.5 overs to sneak ahead on NRR. All of this means that plenty of calculators will be out over the weekend.
Sri Lanka
Played: 4, Points: 4, NRR: -0.457, Remaining match: vs Eng (Sydney)
Sri Lanka are the only team in contention in this group with an even number of points. The only way they can qualify is if they beat England, and if at least one of New Zealand or Australia lose their last game. If their game against England gets washed out, Sri Lanka will be eliminated given that their NRR is so far behind that of New Zealand.
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Played: 4, Points: 3, NRR: -1.544, Remaining match: vs NZ (Adelaide)
Not only will Ireland have to beat New Zealand, they will also have to win by around 105 runs to go past them on NRR. Apart from that, they will also have to hope for Australia to lose to Afghanistan, since one of England or Sri Lanka will surely progress beyond five points. In other words, the best Ireland can probably hope to do is to help one of the other teams in their bid to qualify.
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A fair bit of brainless batting there and thank the Lord for Stokes’ big game mentality and ‘in game’ intelligence.
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To beat Australia, New Zealand and Sri Lanka successively (which is probably what is needed now) is a.big ask but would create huge momentum for the semis!
Mission accomplished, though we didn't have to beat the Ausie's due to the weather. Reckon we would have though as they have been poor. Made it difficult with some brainless shots today against Sri Lanka, but the bowlers had put us into a position where we almost couldn't lose. Had a good go at losing it mind. |
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We made hard work of that. The balance of our side does look superb though. So many game changers with a lot of experience.
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Talking of the balance of our side, it didn’t look good for Malan.
Personally I’d put Salt in at 3 but is anyone else tempted by any other selection?
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Talking of the balance of our side, it didn’t look good for Malan.
Personally I’d put Salt in at 3 but is anyone else tempted by any other selection?
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Salt is the only real option in the squad to take the place of Malan.
Pity Bairstow didn't go.
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And would Salt then keep wicket?
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Salt is the only real option in the squad to take the place of Malan.
Pity Bairstow didn't go.
You could replace Malan with a bowling all rounder. Let’s face it we’ve not used Malan properly twice. It’s not how I would go personally and I’d bring Salt in but, there are other options. |
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You could replace Malan with a bowling all rounder. Let’s face it we’ve not used Malan properly twice.
It’s not how I would go personally and I’d bring Salt in but, there are other options.
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Yeah, I did say in the post above that they could go for another bowler, and it wouldn't surprise me if they did.
Bowlers can win you games as much as batsmen.
So it’s unlikely but technically I think we cud call up Duckett and put him straight in. The logic being he sweeps so well and it will combat India’s spinners. But that’s as likely as me reading the whole thread instead of just replying to the first message I see!😉 |
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No wood is a big blow! Have to admit I am not confident.
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Well this has been sensational from England!
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Quite incredible performance from Butler and Hales
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Great watch, you knew it wasn't India's day when their fielder dropped a catch and it went for four runs  |
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Wow!
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Timed to perfection. Wasn't worried at all.
Me either!🤥 |
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I know it’s an absolute road but England starting a series without being nothing for 5 is a sight to behold!
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Another boring day of test cricket.....
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Another boring day of test cricket.....
I was staggered but then realised they even lost 15 overs to bad light!!!!!!! |
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I don’t like cricket… I love it!! … but these kinds of pitches are as damaging to the best form of the game, as raging spinning tracks that give us 2 day tests.
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How ever boring the pitch has made most of this game, Ben Stokes is doing his best to combat it.
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Unbelievable result!
Stokes would be my MOTM
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That's the best England test win I have seen in my life. Incredible to bowl them out on that pitch and Pakistan were going along nicely until the last session.
Just in the nick of time too. Sport at its best.
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I thought England had no chance of bowling them out on that pitch. What do i know  Well done lads |
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That's the best England test win I have seen in my life. Incredible to bowl them out on that pitch and Pakistan were going along nicely until the last session.
Just in the nick of time too. Sport at its best.
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Hands up who expected this type of pitch after the ‘road’ last week! 🙋♂️
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Hands up who expected this type of pitch after the ‘road’ last week! 🙋♂️
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Obviously not the England camp. Gone with four seamers and one spinner.
With our history of breaking spinners I can see why they haven’t wanted to throw in Ahmed (I would have) and once he’s not playing they didn’t have a lot of options with Livingstone being crocked. They’re looking for Wood to be the point of difference as he was, so successfully in the short format series aren’t they? Leach was poor I felt, some really good balls spoilt by some absolute pies! |
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Hats off to Jack Leach! What a turn around! Perhaps England knew all along! I wouldn’t want to be batting last on this pitch that’s for sure.
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Unbelievable series win!🥳
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We have got a boy wonder !!
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We have got a boy wonder !!
We have couple Pete! Exciting times eh!? |
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We have couple Pete! Exciting times eh!?
Things always go in circles now is our time to dominate the sport for a while Sandford |
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Things always go in circles now is our time to dominate the sport for a while Sandford
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Harry Brook. |
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Harry Brook.
Let’s keep everything crossed that this feast is not followed by an Ashes famine! What a prodigious talent the lad is-so exciting! Root played very well too. I’d not change anything about his batting at all.I would leave him (and to a lesser extent) Foakes to play their natural game. An on song Joe Root scores plenty quick enough playing ‘properly’. |
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We have got a boy wonder !!
Aye, and as well as Jimmy Anderson that Harry Brook lad is showing a bit o’promise… |
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Well, things couldn't be going much better for England at the moment.
Everything they are doing is coming off and much like when the England one day team re-invented how to play the game, the test side are doing the same. All out attack and no let up whatever the outcome.
Can't wait for the Ashes.
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The Ashes will be the acid test for the approach that’s for sure. It’s the added fascination on top of what is already a big sporting highlight.
I have a bit of trepidation about it against their attack which I believe to be the best bowling unit going, especially on our pitches. However, there have been times under Stokes in which we’ve played sensibly (still on the front foot) and I’d expect more that, than a gung-ho attitude.
I would like to see Stokes’ batting improve before then as it’s gone off the edge of a cliff but knowing him, he’s probably saving it for the Aussies!
Exciting times 😊
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Kiwi's putting up a good fight now .
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They are the No1 ranked test side, so we weren't going to have it all our own way.
Tomorrow morning session with the new ball will go a long way to determining the outcome.
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NZ win by 1 run.
One fecking run.....
Only the 4th team in the history of cricket to win a game after following on, so fair play to them, but what an opportunity missed by England.
We only needed one more run to tie the match and win the series.
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What a finish kiwis win by one run. Poor Brook run out without facing a ball thanks to Root but he made amends by scoring 95 before doing a bad shot. Stokes very disciplined but could not resist flashing his bat and getting out when we were just getting on top. I was hoping it would end in a draw it was not to be so well done to them. Going to bed now.  |
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Another amazing test. Live by Baz ball and we’ll come out the wrong side of it, sometimes. Chapeau to the Black Caps for the comeback. I’m just loving test cricket these days…
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As great as it is to see England hammer Ireland it's not doing test cricket any favours, bit flat and boring.
Give me the excitement of limited overs cricket any day.
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Test matches is where it's at, and this is merely batting and bowling practice for the upcoming big one.
Bring on the Aussies.
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Test matches is where it's at, and this is merely batting and bowling practice for the upcoming big one.
Bring on the Aussies.
Test Cricket is king! This test is entirely pointless and as you allude to, it is like glorified net sessions but, like you I cannot wait for the Ashes to begin! |
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Bit of a mismatch but England should have batted until at least Saturday lunch, I know Stokes wants to win quickly but the result is not in doubt, he also should have an eye to the paying supporters who are likely to see the match wiped up by lunchtime, a morning of Brook and Stokes batting would be great entertainment
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Looking forward to the ashes I can see at least three drawn tests.
We are strong in the batting side not so much in the bowling.
So it all depends on the other two test matches.
It could go either way.
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Looking forward to the ashes I can see at least three drawn tests.
We are strong in the batting side not so much in the bowling.
So it all depends on the other two test matches.
It could go either way.
You could well be right Pete but I’d be shocked if there were 3 draws as I think that falls in the possible but improbable category. The way we play under Stokes I think it’s more likely we lose a game trying to win it rather than draw. Have we drawn any under the new regime? Not off the top of my head though I could be wrong. In English conditions and as long as they’re fully fit I’d take our bowling attack all day long. The key battles will be getting Smith and Labuschagne out. Robinson could be the key for me though and I really rate him. One thing is for sure-it won’t be dull!! |
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You could well be right Pete but I’d be shocked if there were 3 draws as I think that falls in the possible but improbable category.
The way we play under Stokes I think it’s more likely we lose a game trying to win it rather than draw. Have we drawn any under the new regime? Not off the top of my head though I could be wrong.
In English conditions and as long as they’re fully fit I’d take our bowling attack all day long. The key battles will be getting Smith and Labuschagne out. Robinson could be the key for me though and I really rate him.
One thing is for sure-it won’t be dull!!
Is Anderson injured ? Robinson seems very good in English conditions,seems a bit like Glenn Mgrath - very accurate . A shame Archer is injured ,him and Wood give us extreme pace ,something which we very rarely have - really enjoy watching them bowl . |
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Is Anderson injured ?
Robinson seems very good in English conditions,seems a bit like Glenn Mgrath - very accurate .
A shame Archer is injured ,him and Wood give us extreme pace ,something which we very rarely have - really enjoy watching them bowl .
They mentioned the fact that both he and Robinson would have played if the Ireland test was the first Ashes but it’s not ideal going into it with both having been injured. Archer I think you can write off as a test bowler now unfortunately. It is such a shame but he’s the next Tymal Mills. Given Australia’s schedule though they’re likely to have injuries too. |
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It's usually the bowling conditions in England that give us the advantage over other teams, which is why we win a lot more at home than away. It's true for most teams to be fair, but we are far more likely to beat the Aussies in England than we are in Australia.
The batting looks pretty even to me
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Really enjoying this India Australia match, some cracking test cricket.
It’s a shame both sides have injuries not that it’s effected the quality at all, but I’d have liked to have seen first choice 11s battle it out. Green looks a very good find for them, he could be key this summer! |
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Ashes predictions folks.....
3-2 Australia for me. Baz ball will be severely tested.
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Ashes predictions folks.....
3-2 Australia for me. Baz ball will be severely tested.
I honestly cannot call it! I envisage us being skittled at least once with our approach against their quality attack. I have a feeling the atmospheres will be off the chain-a combination of a excrement government, it being Australia, our new approach and our momentum will see things hit fever pitch. I’m really excited! |
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Massive session and day coming up here. Looks a very good toss to win and a good first day could put us in a brilliant position for this test and the series and load the pressure onto them. On the flip side if we're overly pumped and aggressive and don't make best use of it then we could be under the cosh. Going to be compelling viewing.
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Massive session and day coming up here. Looks a very good toss to win and a good first day could put us in a brilliant position for this test and the series and load the pressure onto them. On the flip side if we're overly pumped and aggressive and don't make best use of it then we could be under the cosh. Going to be compelling viewing.
Here we go!…….. |
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What a shot to the first ball and what a roar from the crowd.
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Almost been too comfortable at times and we’ve found ways of getting out.
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Oh my we’ve declared!!! 😂😂😂
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At New Street after a great day. If it’s all like this we are in for a superb series. We looked to be getting on top and then wickets came at key times and the Aussies were suddenly well on top, then Joe Root and Johnny Bairstow give us the perfect combination of baz ball and Root ball.
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At New Street after a great day. If it’s all like this we are in for a superb series. We looked to be getting on top and then wickets came at key times and the Aussies were suddenly well on top, then Joe Root and Johnny Bairstow give us the perfect combination of baz ball and Root ball.
I wonder if we’ll regret the declaration? Robinson was looking really solid and no one was getting Root out. Could have been another 50 runs out there for us. But then it’s not Stokes’ way…
I’d imagine we’ll only know the answer to that when we know the result. The pitch is an absolute road however and I do fear for our ‘samey’ attack. I wonder if Stokes is fit enough to be the point of difference. Big session first up but what an absorbing day it’s been! |
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Not a massive cricket follower but love the Ashes. Had it on while doing jobs and walked in to watch a few balls every now and then. I saw Root walking off and thought the day had ended and was surprised to see Oz batting 15/20 mins later so the declaration seemed premature to my uneducated eye at the time although England’s total after a wobble seems OK.
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After a good first session where it seemed we were in control it it has stayed to stall now and Australia now seem to be in control, the pitch isn't doing much and its not too difficult for Australia currently, would that Buttler mis stumping and Broad no ball come to cost us? We need a wicket before close of play if we can manage it and ideally Khawaja being the one to walk
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After a good first session where it seemed we were in control it it has stayed to stall now and Australia now seem to be in control, the pitch isn't doing much and its not too difficult for Australia currently, would that Buttler mis stumping and Broad no ball come to cost us? We need a wicket before close of play if we can manage it and ideally Khawaja being the one to walk
The pitch is far too flat and slow for our battery of bowlers. That said we shot ourselves in the foot and the 2 relatively easy chances Bairstow failed to take and the wicket off the no ball really hurt us. Tough day and different to yesterday but still enthralling proper cricket! |
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The pitch is far too flat and slow for our battery of bowlers. That said we shot ourselves in the foot and the 2 relatively easy chances Bairstow failed to take and the wicket off the no ball really hurt us.
Tough day and different to yesterday but still enthralling proper cricket!
Unfortunately, Bairstow isn't a Test-level keeper, In fact, his performance today was reminiscent of my efforts in minor-league cricket as a "goalkeeper" - alright diving around standing back but pretty poor at the far more subtle art of standing up. He is worth his place in any test side at the moment as a batter. |
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So we lead by 7. Moeen's finger is a bit of a worry. We need to post 350+. Can Joe Root step up as a bowler?
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Unfortunately, Bairstow isn't a Test-level keeper, In fact, his performance today was reminiscent of my efforts in minor-league cricket as a "goalkeeper" - alright diving around standing back but pretty poor at the far more subtle art of standing up. He is worth his place in any test side at the moment as a batter.
I personally think he’s a very good test level wicket keeper and his stats back that up, but and it’s a big BUT he’s just not Ben Foakes who I’m a huge fan of and would have in my side. Purely from a keeper perspective there isn’t a better one in world cricket in my opinion. However, Foakes dropped catches and some relatively comfortable ones by his ridiculously high standards in his last stint too. I suppose the caveat is that Bairstow will improve as its been a long while since he’s done it and he’s coming off a lengthy lay off. No balls are a cricket pet peeve of mine and I find them hard to let go. I suppose wen a track is as flat as this is and has been, these fine margins place bigger scrutiny on these errors from Broad and Bairstow. That spell with the weather though has tipped the scales. I thought we were very naive and some game management was required. Slow the game down as the Aussies would have done! |
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I had a feeling we wouldn't be able to Bazball the Aussies. They are too good and don't scare easily.
We are playing like it's a 1 day game and it's a huge gamble that currently isnt working. Scoring quickly but losing wickets regularly.
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Some pretty negative takes here. Barstow scored a brilliant run a ball 78 in the first innings and has been sensational with the bat for the past year. Not sure he owes anyone anything.
I'd also say Bazball currently has it going toe-to-toe with the world test champions in an absolutely thrilling spectacle.
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Some pretty negative takes here. Barstow scored a brilliant run a ball 78 in the first innings and has been sensational with the bat for the past year. Not sure he owes anyone anything.
I'd also say Baseball currently has it going toe-to-toe with the world test champions in an absolutely thrilling spectacle.
I don’t think it’s negative but a player and their fans who accept the plaudits when it goes great have to accept criticism when it doesn’t. I don’t think anyone is questioning his place or his batting but he has missed some relatively easy chances. That’s cricket and as I say Foakes did likewise in his recent run. |
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Utterly compelling viewing atm…
Forget 20:20 and all the pyjama stuff - this is just greatest spectacle…apart from a Town v Scunny / Lincoln / Hull game of course
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This is almost as nervy as Town v Wrexham.
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Too many crucial errors from us. Dropped catches, missed stumpings and a crucial no ball.
Gutted we lost, but I think cricket won. What a fantastic match.
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Too many crucial errors from us. Dropped catches, missed stumpings and a crucial no ball.
Gutted we lost, but I think cricket won. What a fantastic match.
An early declaration that didn’t pay off too! But the only team trying to win the game lost. I can get on board with that. One of the best tests despite a very poor pitch and an overly defensive Australian side. That’s all down to the ingenuity and fearless approach of Stokes. 4 more of the same but with better pitches and results and we’ll be over the moon! |
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Too many crucial errors from us. Dropped catches, missed stumpings and a crucial no ball.
Gutted we lost, but I think cricket won. What a fantastic match.
Absolutely gripping stuff this afternoon - yes another fantastic advert for the greatest form of cricket. The Aussies dropped catches too but the stand out differences for me are that the Johnny Bairstow errors were basic ones, Lyon never quite let us get Baz ball into full flow and we don’t have a slow bowler to match him, especially with Moeen’s spinning finger gone soft on the Kookaburra ball. Have picked a very strong batting line up I also think the tweak to the full-on Baz Ball tactics would be to bat as along as we can having won the toss. Especially with the conditions at the time of our evening declaration - perfect for batting, good light and Root in absolute control. Apart from the keeping errors all hairs breadth stuff though and if we get decent weather I think it’s going to be like that throughout the series. |
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We have the best batting side in the world but our bowling attack looks alarmingly weak when Anderson and Broad finally have to stop . The wickets was prepared that way on our instructions to suit our batting approach. Personally I would rather see a more traditional English seamers wicket. Lyon likely to be the difference between the two sides if we produce more wickets like that thus summer.
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I get it when a side declares early trying to win a match.
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Declaring before you have got 400 on the board on day one is just plain daft.
I can forgive the dropped catches and miss fields because they did not do it on purpose.
Declaring on the other hand is a decision made by the captain and I hope he does not do it again.
Another 30 or 40 odds runs might have won us the game of at least got us a draw.
Having said that it must have been one of the best test matches I have ever watched.
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We have the best batting side in the world but our bowling attack looks alarmingly weak when Anderson and Broad finally have to stop . The wickets was prepared that way on our instructions to suit our batting approach. Personally I would rather see a more traditional English seamers wicket. Lyon likely to be the difference between the two sides if we produce more wickets like that thus summer.
In an interview with Athers Jimmy said they were not expecting the pitch they got. The side they picked is a good indication of that too. With a pitch doing sodomist all our attack is very ‘samey’ but that is not a problem or as big a problem if there’s something in it for our lads. |
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In an interview with Athers Jimmy said they were not expecting the pitch they got. The side they picked is a good indication of that too.
With a pitch doing sodomist all our attack is very ‘samey’ but that is not a problem or as big a problem if there’s something in it for our lads.
Lyon in interview said the opposite ie that they were expecting that pitch as England had instructed the pitches to prepared like that so I guess we won’t know who is right until we see the pitches in the next two games |
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Lyon in interview said the opposite ie that they were expecting that pitch as England had instructed the pitches to prepared like that so I guess we won’t know who is right until we see the pitches in the next two games
Lyon also said the Australians knew Stokes would declare when he did too. They know everything these Aussies don’t they!? I look forward to one of them saying they knew the Lords deck would be like it was too, however that turns out. |
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Lyon also said the Australians knew Stokes would declare when he did too. They know everything these Aussies don’t they!?
I look forward to one of them saying they knew the Lords deck would be like it was too, however that turns out.
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I wish the Aussies knew not to inflex upwards the end of everything they say. Strewth.
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The England Test approach at the moment feels a bit less ke The Emporers New Clothes everybody’s on board and nobody dare criticise including the pundits while some I suspect some are secretly thinking what the f is going on here. I don’t like losing to the Aussies and would rather be bored for five days and win then get beat 4 or 5 nil like the bad old days
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Are we ignoring how England were playing before McCullum arrived and Stokes became captain? With a very similar team we were playing more attritional cricket and getting beaten by everyone.
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I wish the Aussies knew not to inflex upwards the end of everything they say. Strewth.
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Are we ignoring how England were playing before McCullum arrived and Stokes became captain? With a very similar team we were playing more attritional cricket and getting beaten by everyone.
This is a really excellent point and one I have had to remind myself of a few times in the Stokes era. Old habits die hard and sometimes the new style jars a little as it’s not what I’m used to but, it’s designed to-that’s the point. I’ll watch any cricket and will still enjoy the traditional approach but despite my reluctance this ultra positive is winning me over! |
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Lets not forget the Aussies are the best test side in the world and we only just lost a game that could have gone either way.
The new approach has brought many more wins than draws and losses, plus it makes for far more entertaining games, so no complaints from me.
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Lets not forget the Aussies are the best test side in the world and we only just lost a game that could have gone either way.
The new approach has brought many more wins than draws and losses, plus it makes for far more entertaining games, so no complaints from me.
First and foremost sport to me is entertainment, I enjoy the ride and see where it goes, if we (whoever that may be) win then great. In my younger days it was always about result over style and that dictated my mood regardless of how it was achieved. I guess priorities and tastes change but I’m no less passionate now than I was then, or any less involved in the spectacle, it’s just different. |
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Maybe Stokes was thinking if we batted on in the 1st innings we might have been in a situation he did not want to be in.
That was we scored another 100+ runs and got in a position to ask Australia to follow on.
With our ageing fast bowlers and a spinner with a sore finger plus his own dodgy knee he did not want that to happen.
Much easier to declare and take a couple of quick wickets.
If it worked he is a genius but it didn't so we are all still talking about it.
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The loss of Leach at the 11th hour ruined our plans. Moeen is a decent bowler, but we've seen the photos of damage to his finger so Root had to bowl a lot as well. With the best will in the world, neither is the same as a specialist bowler.
I'd imagine Bairstow is a bit disappointed with his wicket-keeping. Some missed chances which should have stuck and potentially cost us the game. The gamble to play him as wicketkeeper despite the fact he's coming back from injury and is out of touch didn't work out.
I'd imagine his keeping will improve as the series continues, but the defeat in the first test could prove decisive.
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The loss of Leach at the 11th hour ruined our plans. Moeen is a decent bowler, but we've seen the photos of damage to his finger so Root had to bowl a lot as well. With the best will in the world, neither is the same as a specialist bowler.
I'd imagine Bairstow is a bit disappointed with his wicket-keeping. Some missed chances which should have stuck and potentially cost us the game. The gamble to play him as wicketkeeper despite the fact he's coming back from injury and is out of touch didn't work out.
I'd imagine his keeping will improve as the series continues, but the defeat in the first test could prove decisive.
Our record at Lords v Australia is terrible. Two wins in 89 years. Ive reflected and still don’t buy the argument that if the declaration had resulted in a couple of wickets Stokes would have be feted as a genius. This is Australia, you just don’t give up the domination that Root had over their attack at that point. When you have a foot on their throat you don’t take it off to try and get them in an arm lock. I think Stokes will learn from it and adapt. |
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Our record at Lords v Australia is terrible. Two wins in 89 years.
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Our record at Lords v Australia is terrible. Two wins in 89 years.
Ive reflected and still don’t buy the argument that if the declaration had resulted in a couple of wickets Stokes would have be feted as a genius. This is Australia, you just don’t give up the domination that Root had over their attack at that point. When you have a foot on their throat you don’t take it off to try and get them in an arm lock. I think Stokes will learn from it and adapt.
I’m glad you think so but I don’t think Stokes will see it that way at all, if anything I think it will promote bazball on steroids! Fine margins isn’t it, if Bairstow did not have a shocker with the gloves and Broad hadn’t overstretched… |
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The toss feels like a big event already!
It went our way, and we are bowling. Let's hope we rip through them, because if we lose this test, the Ashes are done for us. |
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It went our way, and we are bowling.
Let's hope we rip through them, because if we lose this test, the Ashes are done for us.
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Root’s was a difficult chance but Pope’s was an absolute Dolly!
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Root’s was a difficult chance but Pope’s was an absolute Dolly!
We cannot afford this sloppiness!
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We've let the Aussies get on top.
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Indeed, Broad will be fuming. To make the decision to bowl pay off we need to limit them to under 300. I assume the decision to bowl if we won the toss was made once we had gone in without a front line slow bowler
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Aussies are already nearly at a stage where we can't win this game.
Head scoring at a run a ball.
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Root has temporarily stopped the Ashes slipping away. But if it’s turning for him Lyon will be lethal come innings 4.
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We haven’t helped ourselves first and foremost but it’s well established that Stokes has requested flat QUICK wickets. 2 tests and that hasn’t occurred and it’s really hurting us because it highlights that ‘sameness’ in our attack. 4/5 mph makes all the difference and all 3 main bowlers (+Stokes) are down on what you’d normally expect last test and so far in this. I am not sure Robinson isn’t carrying a niggle either but no excuses.
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Aussies are already nearly at a stage where we can't win this game.
Head scoring at a run a ball.
Much has been made of Bazball and our scoring prowess, but it doesn't matter if we keep bowling dross like this. The Ashes already starting to feel beyond us.
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I think this test, as like the 1st, will be determined by how much wag is in each tail.
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Set off home from work and it was 188 for 1. By the time I got home, we were 4 down.
It wasn't a long journey.
Why do we consistently shoot ourselves in the foot?
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Set off home from work and it was 188 for 1. By the time I got home, we were 4 down.
It wasn't a long journey.
Why do we consistently shoot ourselves in the foot?
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The loss of Lyon, potentially for the whole series, could swing things our way again. Providing we put on a decent showing in the rest of this innings. What is it with these spinners, eh? Dropping like flies.
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Brook out, caught at Extra Cover off Starc for 50. England 293-6.
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Brook gets his 50 off 63 deliveries.
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What happened to just playing the bad ball and defending the good one. ?
There is being positive and being stupid we are doing the latter.
We can play the Stokes way against poorer teams
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Need that tail to wag...
Well it didn't wag at all . You can have the ashes Australia England just want to have fun. It's like watching men against boys. |
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I've not seen any of it, but the scorecard makes poor reading.
It'll take something remarkable for them to Bazball themselves out of this mess. It's a possibility, but not looking likely.
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The loss of Lyon, potentially for the whole series, could swing things our way again. Providing we put on a decent showing in the rest of this innings. What is it with these spinners, eh? Dropping like flies.
Bit optimistic when we're staring down the barrel of being 2-0 down with 3 to play when 18 out of the 20 post-war Ashes series in England have included at least 1 draw. *And we were stating down that barrel throughout the first innings. |
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Bazball found out. Is this all a bit Keegan-like at Newcastle? We are just not thinking tactically at all. If Root fails Bazball fails when we are up against top class opposition.
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Bit optimistic when we're staring down the barrel of being 2-0 down with 3 to play when 18 out of the 20 post-war Ashes series in England have included at least 1 draw.
*And we were stating down that barrel throughout the first innings.
In my defence, my post was made last night, when we had 6 wickets left including Stokes, Brooks and Bairstow, and were only 130-odd runs behind, so it wasn't too optimistic. Unfortunately, a good old-fashioned English batting collapse has then cost us any chance in the game. |
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Our best bowlers are past their best.
Our batsmen keep finding different ways of getting themselves out.
I am all for attacking cricket but in moderation and use your brain instead of trying to hit everything for six.
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Bazball found out. Is this all a bit Keegan-like at Newcastle? We are just not thinking tactically at all. If Root fails Bazball fails when we are up against top class opposition.
Ultra positive and aggressive cricket isn’t just about trying to smack the ball to the ropes. You can be positive and aggressive in defence or in game management. Despite 2 slow wickets we should have won the first test and we were in a dominant position at 188-1 in this and yet we will find ourselves 2-0 down and the Ashes will be done. This is because we weren’t ruthless enough when we had our foot on Australia’s throat. |
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Ben Stokes is carrying on the trend of England captains jeopardising Ben Stokes’ fitness!
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Jesus wept things could get ugly from here!
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We should bore them to death now.
Our only chance is to leave the short ball never lift your bat and duck.
We have got loads of time there bowlers will get tired.
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We should bore them to death now.
Our only chance is to leave the short ball never lift your bat and duck.
We have got loads of time there bowlers will get tired.
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Just play like we normally do and have a day off tomorrow.
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Pope and Brook got mixed up Pete they both left the ball well!!
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Stupid from Bairstow and symptomatic of a dozy series so far.
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And people wonder why Smith and Warner still get booed. If two of your players have been banned for ball tampering, you’d think you’d try and operate on a higher moral level. But this is Australia after all. Wänkers.
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Stokes going on a rampage less than a hundred required to win.
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Great attempt but fell short by 44 runs Stokes fantastic 150 a little wag by the fast bowlers but a good days enjoyment.
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Stokes great effort but his last few overs had stopped thinking, turned down quite a few runs to try and keep strike when the old ball wasn't doing much so not a massive risk to let Broad face a few.
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Stupid from Bairstow and symptomatic of a dozy series so far.
But it’s really not in the spirit of the game and Australia should really have withdrawn the appeal - shouldn’t they?!
People will point to the rules and say it’s smart work from Carey and I suppose it’s whatever you are personally comfortable with. For me Bairstow is gaining no material advantage from his actions and I would have withdrawn the appeal. I do hope this lights a fire under our lads and it puts an end to this pally approach we’ve had thus far. |
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I actually think that Bairstow dismissal will be the making of our Ashes'.
We were staring down the barrel until that moment, but what it did was light the fire in Stokes' eyes. Something we've lacked so far. He's our leader, be it with the captaincy and just by his nature. He leads, people will follow.
It drunk him off. It wound him up and he responded. Broad responded, he was straight into them telling them how it was a male private move. 3rd Test can't come soon enough and thankfully only a few days to wait. There's been a lot of criticism about using Baz Ball in in The Ashes but I reckon we'll really see it at full throttle at Headingley.
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I thought he’d improve as the series went on but I was very wrong. That is an absolute dolly!! Not to mention the earlier tougher chance. Poor! urine Poor!
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Catches win matches, as the saying goes.
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Dropped another! 🤬
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He’s caught one!!! 🥳
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Aussies having an England type collapse.
We could have bowled them for about 150 if we'd taken our chances, but still not a bad day for England. Wood has been ace.
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We need to recall Foakes -
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FFS England, you go from looking like a side capable of winning the test match to a clueless bunch of Sunday amateurs and back again.
We keep getting ourselves into a decent position, then throwing it all away with a daft session or dropped catches.
I thought today, we were toast, then we manage to drag ourselves within 20 odd runs, take four major wickets to put us right back in it and give us hope again.
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If we manage to win any of these tests it won't be due to playing well. It will be down to doing one or two things well whilst the rest is awful. I get that they want to make it entertaining but there has to be a balance as well.
I feel sorry for Bairstow in many regards as he doesn't really look properly fit or ready to keep wicket following his bad injury. It's a bit like in the major football tournaments in the past where we tried to get an injured star player on the pitch even though they were nowhere near ready (Rooney and others come to mind).
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Well this is it now - 251 to hang in there for the Ashes…
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Tricky session negotiated.
C'mon England.
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Wood has looked outstanding , always enjoy watching him bowl such a shame Archer & Stone are injured because they bring the X factor to , but without them we are relatively medium pace in the bowling department Robinson ,Stokes (who actually used to bowl relatively quickly ,but maybe injuries have stopped that) ,Jimmy and Broad are all the same pace with a bit of variation but not dramatic .
The balance of our bowling attack seems to have been a problem , since Panesar (briefly) and Swann we have not produced a high level spinner ,Moen is not good enough and Leach always seems to be injured and is probably not good enough.
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Hopefully we knock off the runs tomorrow stress free and there is something on the 4th test and we can turn it around .
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Wood has looked outstanding , always enjoy watching him bowl such a shame Archer & Stone are injured because they bring the X factor to , but without them we are relatively medium pace in the bowling department Robinson ,Stokes (who actually used to bowl relatively quickly ,but maybe injuries have stopped that) ,Jimmy and Broad are all the same pace with a bit of variation but not dramatic .
The balance of our bowling attack seems to have been a problem , since Panesar (briefly) and Swann we have not produced a high level spinner ,Moen is not good enough and Leach always seems to be injured and is probably not good enough.
Australia ,however much people dislike them always have a high quality attack with variation - Starc -Pace ,Left armer - Cummins -good pace ,line and length ,Bolland medium pace but consistent - Lyon - consistently good offspinner .
Hopefully we knock off the runs tomorrow stress free and there is something on the 4th test and we can turn it around .
Don't be ridiculous.... Ashes cricket is never stress free these days... Mind, it might be me - I didn't find the second half against Luton stress free and we were 3 up |
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Definately not stress free - feel we are brown bread here losing Stokes & Bairstow .
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Bairstow has had another shocker!
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This is like the last 20 mins at Soton or the last 10 at West Ham…
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Chris Woakes is a class act.
Brilliant from Wood.
Brook take a bow!
We’re still in it….just!!!!
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Wow, I’m mentally exhausted, that was like the Wrexham game over 3 and half days - Waterfall, Woakes and Wood…
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Wow, I’m mentally exhausted, that was like the Wrexham game over 3 and half days - Waterfall, Woakes and Wood…
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Need to win the next two test to regain the ashes..
Can not see us doing that but with our team you never know what they are going to do.
I don't like it when we put them in to bat I always think it's better to take control of the game by batting first.
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Need to win the next two test to regain the ashes..
Can not see us doing that but with our team you never know what they are going to do.
I don't like it when we put them in to bat I always think it's better to take control of the game by batting first.
Would agree generally but not at Headingley. If we’d caught properly the Aussies would have been skittled on day 1. Also the loss of Lyon greatly reduces the Aussies strike power in the 4th innings. At OT I’d say the decision after winning the toss would depend on the weather. Oval think about it then bat. |
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Big decisions to be made over the next week.
Root needs to move up the order for me, I know he doesn't like it at 3 but that was whilst he was captain I think. More time to think about his game than worrying about the rest of the side etc.
All in it's two quite poor sides with the odd scattering of brilliance. The art of batting to defend your wicket has just gone from the game. BazBall or not, there's so few batsman these days who can hold onto their wicket and add runs at a steady pace. It's all or nothing, everything is 100mph. Conditions were good for the bowlers but to effectively lose the a massive bulk of the 3rd day and still have it all wrapped up with time to spare on the afternoon of the 4th day speaks volumes.
Entertaining but it slightly saddens me that the methodical and very deliberate side of the game is dying.
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Big decisions to be made over the next week.
Root needs to move up the order for me, I know he doesn't like it at 3 but that was whilst he was captain I think. More time to think about his game than worrying about the rest of the side etc.
All in it's two quite poor sides with the odd scattering of brilliance. The art of batting to defend your wicket has just gone from the game. BazBall or not, there's so few batsman these days who can hold onto their wicket and add runs at a steady pace. It's all or nothing, everything is 100mph. Conditions were good for the bowlers but to effectively lose the a massive bulk of the 3rd day and still have it all wrapped up with time to spare on the afternoon of the 4th day speaks volumes.
Entertaining but it slightly saddens me that the methodical and very deliberate side of the game is dying.
I think I agree regarding Root unless we go for a left field selection such as a Bohannon or Hain for example. However, I’m sorry but the notion that Australia are a poor side is a nonsense. England too for that matter, but Australia play the traditional game you claim is no longer in existence. I can see merit in your wider discussion around the historical virtues of the game and the current version of it, but this series has been enthralling for a myriad of reasons (not all for quality cricket granted). I’m sure as recently as the 90s you will find plenty of sides with players who could defend their wicket being skittled for not many and numerous tests finishing before their scheduled end. |
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Big decisions to be made over the next week.
Root needs to move up the order for me, I know he doesn't like it at 3 but that was whilst he was captain I think. More time to think about his game than worrying about the rest of the side etc.
All in it's two quite poor sides with the odd scattering of brilliance. The art of batting to defend your wicket has just gone from the game. BazBall or not, there's so few batsman these days who can hold onto their wicket and add runs at a steady pace. It's all or nothing, everything is 100mph. Conditions were good for the bowlers but to effectively lose the a massive bulk of the 3rd day and still have it all wrapped up with time to spare on the afternoon of the 4th day speaks volumes.
Entertaining but it slightly saddens me that the methodical and very deliberate side of the game is dying.
Bums on seats that counts though and this Ashes series is the hottest ticket I can remember. Days 4 and 5 completely sold out in advance even if all that means is seeking a refund for day 5. It’s the first time for years I haven’t been to a Headingley test - couldn’t get a ticket without paying a fortune. Got one for Edgbaston and OT in the ballot. Root can construct a proper old style test hundred - he did that on day 1 of the series. And that declaration could yet be what cost us the Ashes along with dropped catches - the stats from this series are that close. Thing about Root though is Cummins is getting him alot - not like Broad and Warner but I’d rather not have him with increased risk of facing Cummins with the new ball. |
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England name an unchanged squad for the next test, so no Foakes.
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England name an unchanged squad for the next test, so no Foakes.
Unlike his missed opportunities, Bairstow is undroppable along with Crawley. Of course there is a fine line between backing your players and running a closed book on selection but, this is definitely the latter. I just hope Bairstow repays the faith because looking at his current form it is just that and perhaps that faith falls in the ‘blind’ category. |
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Bairstow lucky to keep his place he’s offered nothing with the bat his keeping has been poor, big performance expected from him.
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Stokes has made a big mistake in putting the Aussies in to bat.
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Stokes has made a big mistake in putting the Aussies in to bat.
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With bad weather forecast we had to give ourselves as much time as possible to bowl them out twice so made sense to put them in.
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Ignoring the context of the series it will look a bad decision on the surface of it (pun intended) at times when it’s not doing anything. But with the weather being interchangeable at OT that can soon change.
But, in the context of the series I don’t think Stokes had any choice irrespective of history saying otherwise.
It’s all a bit flat at the minute-we could do with a bit of aggression from Wood to get the crowd and players up.
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He’s held one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He’s held one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Commentators said it was a tricky one because the ball is wobbling but that was being very kind. It was a regulation one, if he’d dropped that he should’nt be keeping in village cricket
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Needed that Woody!!
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I never like it when we put teams in to bat first.
We will have the worse conditions when we go in as the weather is good today but cloudy with showers the next two days at least.
I can't remember which famous captain said this . If you win the toss in difficult weather conditions you think about putting the other team in THEN bat first. !!!!
We will see at the end of the day whether it was a good decision to put them in or not.
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I never like it when we put teams in to bat first.
We will have the worse conditions when we go in as the weather is good today but cloudy with showers the next two days at least.
I can't remember which famous captain said this . If you win the toss in difficult weather conditions you think about putting the other team in THEN bat first. !!!!
We will see at the end of the day whether it was a good decision to put them in or not.
Not sure who originally said it but Sir Geoffrey used to repeat it many times. Headingley is about the only ground where inserting the opposition is traditionally a regular preference. I’d say bat at OT but it seems it’s not the Bazball way. |
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A good indication is that Cummins said he’d have bowled too!
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Aussies will be the happier.
We need wickets in the next session or they may get away from us.
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Aussies will be the happier.
We need wickets in the next session or they may get away from us.
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That’s well played England. A good pitch against that batting line up and I’ll certainly take it.
I fear the weather won’t allow a result but if we can nip them out first thing in morning you never know.
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England played well and restricted the Aussies to a reasonable score with no help from the pitch.
So still do not understand why we put them in.
Let's hope the sun comes out when we do bat and the weather men are wrong.
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England played well and restricted the Aussies to a reasonable score with no help from the pitch.
So still do not understand why we put them in.
I think Stokes sees it purely down to being the most attacking and aggressive option and the jeopardy of the third innings being theirs and our love of a chase. I think we’ll need a significant lead of 80-100 to even contemplate forcing a result given the atrocious forecast. It’s highly improbable but it may well be fun regardless |
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Come on Jimmy get the last wicket to go to 690.
Then get 10 wickets in the last 3 Aussie innings with 700th wicket to clinch the Ashes at the Oval. If Carlsberg did…
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Ali in at No.3 this could be interesting maybe short but intersting.
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This batting display just shows you how good we were with the ball yesterday.
We really need to be relentless after tea and really ram home our dominance.
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Total disrespect for traditions of Ashes Test cricket this from England. Would Bradman have played a scoop shot off the England captain to get to his 50. Never mind bodyline that would have created a major incident within the Commonwealth…
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Total disrespect for traditions of Ashes Test cricket this from England. Would Bradman have played a scoop shot off the England captain to get to his 50. Never mind bodyline that would have created a major incident within the Commonwealth…
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Would have loved Joe Root to get his 31st test hundred, but I liked even more the way he was out!
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Would have loved Joe Root to get his 31st test hundred, but I liked even more the way he was out!
I’d certainly be encouraged as a bowler seeing it for sure. Time wasting is a pet peeve of mine across all sports but there really needs to be more done for slow over rates. |
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I’d certainly be encouraged as a bowler seeing it for sure.
Time wasting is a pet peeve of mine across all sports but there really needs to be more done for slow over rates.
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Think we can categorically say that the day belonged to England.
Some suggestion that England might want to keep on batting as long as possible and let the pitch deteriorate more, rather than go for quick runs and stick the Aussies back in with a declaration.
Suppose the morning session will answer those questions.
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With the weather forecast I have a sneaking suspicion the over rate will jump somewhat when England are in the field…
England would be doing exactly the same as the Aussies if the positions were reversed but thats why the authorities need to address it. Fans are being short changed and it needs addressing for sure. |
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Think we can categorically say that the day belonged to England.
Some suggestion that England might want to keep on batting as long as possible and let the pitch deteriorate more, rather than go for quick runs and stick the Aussies back in with a declaration.
Suppose the morning session will answer those questions.
If we get a morning session of course. I’m sure the team will be armed with the best indications of weather due but on the bbc weather app it looks pretty bleak, especially for Saturday and Sunday. |
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Saying weather should be ok for rest of today so with the new new ball swinging well.
I would declare now and release Anderson from the Anderson end and get the majority of their side out by tonight.
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First time in 60 years of watching test cricket I have seen an Australian side taken apart and humilated
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Another good day for us just need the weather to be kind to us over the weekend then it's a shootout at the Oval.
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First time in 60 years of watching test cricket I have seen an Australian side taken apart and humilated
Great isn’t it! I’m just praying that we get enough time to eek out a result but I’m very pessimistic on that front. Stokes’ captaincy has been absolutely brilliant and it’s the reason we even have a small chance! |
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Will be heartbreaking if we don't get enough play to win this and level the series. England have been absolutely sensational on this test and if we can somehow get enough cricket to level the series then the Aussies look there for the taking.
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There may be a slight chance of a window in the weather between 14.00 and 18.00 today. Sunday looking worse.
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I'm following the bookies and whilst the draw is the favourite the England win has just come in a little. 7/4 England and 2/5 for the draw currently.
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Will be heartbreaking if we don't get enough play to win this and level the series. England have been absolutely sensational on this test and if we can somehow get enough cricket to level the series then the Aussies look there for the taking.
Cricket absolutely shoots itself in the foot with this kind of thing. With the technology around now with regards to predicting weather it must change accordingly. Categorically before this test we knew weather would take big chunks of it and yet the over rates are appalling. We’re walking off in good light at the end of the day and there’s so many breaks in play it’s ridiculous. As Bumble would say ‘GET ON WITH THE GAME!’. If weather permits start earlier, put ‘in game’ penalties in place for not completing required overs, don’t wipe overs off at the end of the day and bolt time on for lost play when conditions allow. Test cricket is the absolute pinnacle for me but it needs to wake up and rectify these issues rather than leave them as they are because ‘well those are the rules and it’s always been that way!’. Is there such a thing as a anti-rain dance? If so I’d like to be doing it! |
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Chink of light for England.
Labuschagne finally out for 111
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Chink of light for England.
Labuschagne finally out for 111
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In the good old days they played to a finish so if they lost a day or two they just added any time or days on until a finish. Well that's what my grandad told me. |
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In the good old days they played to a finish so if they lost a day or two they just added any time or days on until a finish. Well that's what my grandad told me.
I’m sure they (Nasser et al) were talking up a 9 day test that ended in a draw before this test got underway! More than any sport I can think of cricket self harms and sabotages itself. Really frustrates me. Having tea when it was dry, not adding time when we had good light, losing overs, playing football when the ground was playable, taking an age to clean up and then stroll about with an apparent lack of urgency. Odd. |
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I’m sure they (Nasser et al) were talking up a 9 day test that ended in a draw before this test got underway!
More than any sport I can think of cricket self harms and sabotages itself. Really frustrates me.
Having tea when it was dry, not adding time when we had good light, losing overs, playing football when the ground was playable, taking an age to clean up and then stroll about with an apparent lack of urgency. Odd.
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Having tea was bizarre and ridiculous. They didn't start playing until almost 3 o'clock, but the old fart traditions still exist in cricket.
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Agree about the timings always find it strange .
Really enjoyed the last 2 tests , our exciting brand of cricket has paid off .
We might not even win this one , but seeing us bat and flog their bowlers like in the past they have ours many times is still pretty satisfying .
Wood has been great , we should enjoy him because he's the only true express pace bowler I have seen playing for us in my time watching England (,Harmison ,Flintoff and Devon Malcolm were quite quick but I never saw them operate with such consistent pace ) .
Woakes is doing well to ,think he's an underated batsman who is the ideal replacement for Anderson once he calls it a day .
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Having tea was bizarre and ridiculous. They didn't start playing until almost 3 o'clock, but the old fart traditions still exist in cricket.
Makes you wonder how we ended up with Key, Stokes and McCullum as the figureheads doesn’t it!? Just need them to drag the rest of the game with them. |
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Need some brighter weather tomorrow so the fast bowlers can get into action.
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I think yesterday was a prime example of how cricket can make strides in getting people interested then makes huge steps back.
Weather is always gonna impact the game, that’s fine but this obsession with sticking to traditions is damaging.
Play could’ve been brought forward half an hour, especially knowing the forecast, they could play longer, again, even an extra half hour would help but having only started at 3pm, going for tea when it was dry, possibly being able to squeeze a few overs in was absolutely flipping bonkers.
This ashes has been exciting and entertaining, probably attracted a few fair weather cricket fans and then they do that…mind blowing.
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Spawny feckers.
We had 'em, and they wriggled off the hook.
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What an awful way to end what has been an enthralling series so far. There has been a bit of everything and it’s been top drawer.
The Ashes are out of reach but I’d like our lads to deny them a series win with a great performance at the Oval.
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Spawny feckers.
We had 'em, and they wriggled off the hook.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/66289926Just another article that does as much, if not more to suggest why cricket couldn’t possibly change, as opposed to how it actually could. Pretty poetic really because in a nutshell that is the problem!
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Lost the toss for the first time and put into bat.
Nervy start.
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A totally mixed bag from both sides. Clearly a lot riding on this test match and it’s showing.
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Another test match were the weather might decide the result.
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SCJ Broad (retired)
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Great day for England yesterday, but...but...
Two things bothered me. We let their tail enders score too many runs and get a slight lead, when it should have been us coming out of the first innings with a lead.
We then had one of our spells where we were right on top, but let it slip at the end, losing 5 wickets for 47 runs.
We are in a great position, but when you have the boot on the neck of the Aussies, you need to keep it there. They are the ultimate fighters and they have a glimmer of a chance, when they should have had none.
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We need more rain tomorrow seeing they have made a very good start.
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We need more rain tomorrow seeing they have made a very good start.
They don't deserve to go home winning 3 - 1 .
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Name ur 11 of the series n realistically there will be more English than Aussies. Think about who has been better to watch and it’s us by a country mile. Think of some of the best moments and they’re predominantly ours.
But they’ve retained (needs changing) the Ashes and if they continue as they have they’ll win the series. Madness!
I have to say this has been an absolutely enthralling series and I’ve loved watching us and even them (sometimes)
As entertaining as England have been, the Aussies are all about winning, and they just find a way. I could use a cliche and say cricket has won, but I can't help but look back and think we could have won the first test, and we should have won the second. |
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Utterly compelling right to the end...3 wickets needed...I will have a hole in my working-from-home life tomorrow.
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Woohoo!
Fully deserved and England the better team over the summer.
How the hell did we draw that series?
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Feck me, Town have some act to follow for this season, we'll need another cup run and play-off campaign like the last one to match it...Broad - a 6 and a wicket off his last stroke and ball and winning an Ashes Test to finish his career. Only the rain stopped him grabbing the urn as well.
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It was both a fantastic and gripping series. More plot twists than Ozark.
Best series since '05. Such a shame this last test wasn't a series decider.
While I'm disappointed we didn't win the Ashes I think we showed real character to level the series afrer going 0-2 down, especially after the disappointment in the Manchester rain, having got ourselves into a commanding position.
I think a drawn series was probably about right. But it's frustrating the Aussies retain the Ashes.
Fitting that Broad got a 6 on his final bat and a wicket on his final ball 👏
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I cannot believe that Harry Brook has been left out of England’s World Cup squad.
Bizarre…🤔
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I cannot believe that Harry Brook has been left out of England’s World Cup squad.
Bizarre…🤔
Really? That does surprise me. Actually, that shocks me. EDIT: I see Stokes has decided to un-retire for this series, which is what cost Brooks his place in all probability, so..... Still unsure myself, but Stokes is a born winner. |
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Really struggled in the IPL and probably pretty drained after an intensive first year of international cricket. No particularly obvious choice to leave out for him either. Bold move to pick Atkinson
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Atkinson has been very impressive this season and has the magic dust of pace. I like that selection.
Luke Wright sed Stokes squeezed him from the squad but I think it’s a bit of a cop out.
Barring one extraordinary innings Brook did struggle in the IPL but he’d be in my squad and I’d have found a way of getting him in.
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Who for though? You want Ali and Livingstone for the spin options. You can't leave out Root and Malan has been outstanding in ODI cricket. Bairstow and Roy pick themselves to open and if we need 50 off the last 6 in the final with 2 wickets left would you want Brook or Stokes at the crease?
Brook's an outstanding cricketer but can see why he's not been picked. He must be absolutely knackered as well after the year he's had.
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Who for though? You want Ali and Livingstone for the spin options. You can't leave out Root and Malan has been outstanding in ODI cricket. Bairstow and Roy pick themselves to open and if we need 50 off the last 6 in the final with 2 wickets left would you want Brook or Stokes at the crease?
Brook's an outstanding cricketer but can see why he's not been picked. He must be absolutely knackered as well after the year he's had.
I know it’s not a popular opinion but I personally wouldn’t pick Livingstone in my best side anyway but probably in my squad. I’d happily forfeit Jason Roy for Harry Brook. Malan Bairstow Root Stokes Brook Buttler Curran Ali Woakes Rashid Wood |
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105 from 42 balls in a total of 158!!! Fastest 100 in the Hundred to date!
Special from a lad who cannot get in the WC squad. Has a touch of Genius does Harry Brook!
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The 100 comes to an end and I must say I have enjoyed nearly every game.
It's been great this last week or so with the cricket , football and athletics .
For someone who can not get out much all this sport on the box makes my day go very quick.
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England easily beat NZ in the first T20, with Malan and Brook taking the game away from them, resulting in us only needing 14 overs to wrap up the win.
Our bowlers set us up, with Wood (not that one) and Carse taking 3 wickets each.
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England easily beat NZ in the first T20, with Malan and Brook taking the game away from them, resulting in us only needing 14 overs to wrap up the win.
Our bowlers set us up, with Wood (not that one) and Carse taking 3 wickets each.
It was an odd game that never really got going. It’s not often you can say a New Zealand side weren’t particularly competitive but they weren’t and they were way off what you’d expect. I’m hoping for a better contest tonight and I’m looking forward to seeing Atkinson fingers crossed. I’m hoping to see him, Carse and Wood in the test arena in the not so distant future. |
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Yet another brilliant innings from Brook. He’s just ridiculous and supremely skilled in all formats. I genuinely think he’s a generational talent!
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Yet another brilliant innings from Brook. He’s just ridiculous and supremely skilled in all formats. I genuinely think he’s a generational talent!
Yeah, he makes it look so simple, but the NZ bowlers are no mugs. Bairstow pretty brutal too. Big total for NZ to chase and they will have to bat really well to pull this one out of the bag. |
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Yeah, he makes it look so simple, but the NZ bowlers are no mugs. Bairstow pretty brutal too.
Big total for NZ to chase and they will have to bat really well to pull this one out of the bag.
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Their method was madness but I think they’ve got there in the end even if they’re not exactly sure how!
Seems a little muddled between Buttler, Mott and Wright but perhaps the end justifies the means.
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This has been a really poor batting display from England. All got in and then out in tame fashion.
I repeatedly heard Buttler say in the build up that we’re not defending the World Cup but are going to attack it. Obviously it’s a sound bite not to be taken too seriously but once you’ve said it, your team has to carry it out which they haven’t.
It’s like they’ve been caught in betwixt and in between when they should have fully committed.
Let’s hope the bowlers can rescue this for us!
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Yeah, we were poor considering they were down to the bare bones and employed a part time bowler who took 2 prize scalps.
They are currently rattling along at almost 9 an over and Woakes is getting a right pasting, which is unlike him. Wood now getting the same treatment. Think NZ are going to win this comfortably.
Not a good start at all.
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We now lose to Afghanistan, and by a big margin too.
Like Town, England look disjointed and lacking in belief.
All we need now is for England to lose to Italy in the Euros to round off a dismal week of sport.
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We now lose to Afghanistan, and by a big margin too.
Like Town, England look disjointed and lacking in belief.
All we need now is for England to lose to Italy in the Euros to round off a dismal week of sport.
Rugby World Cup Quarter-final result today England 30-24 Fiji |
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Rugby World Cup Quarter-final result today
England 30-24 Fiji
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We play South Africa in the semi final.
They beat us in the final last time so a chance for revenge.
Mind you we have done well to get this far as our form this season has been as bad as towns.
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We play South Africa in the semi final.
They beat us in the final last time so a chance for revenge.
Mind you we have done well to get this far as our form this season has been as bad as towns.
Indeed Pete! The draw, it’s method and it’s timing we’re baffling to say the least. I enjoyed the game though and it not very often I’ve said that after watching us recently. South Africa I fear will be far too good for us, although I hope I’m wrong! 🤞 |
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England were good when the draw was made a few years ago. We're now shite, but it's remarkable that we remain the only unbeaten team in the competition!
We'll get absolutely battered by the Springboks. We're miles behind the likes of SA, NZ, Ireland and France and any one of these teams would take us to pieces. Can't see any way past a SA vs NZ final.
As for the Cricket World Cup, our players just don't play 50 over cricket any longer. It's all 20-20, The Hundred and the like.
It's not a surprise that we're not looking anywhere near contenders in this format at the moment.
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As for the Cricket World Cup, our players just don't play 50 over cricket any longer. It's all 20-20, The Hundred and the like.
It's not a surprise that we're not looking anywhere near contenders in this format at the moment.
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South Africa lose to the Netherlands in another massive shock result at the cricket world cup.
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Argentina could yet hold both World Cups. An England V Argentina final would be near absurd given the paucity of their pool games. The 2 QFs in the other half of the draw were epic. Combined physicality and skill levels like no other sport. A welcome distraction from Town’s dismal showing v Accy. I don’t watch other football if Town have been shite. Too depressing.
Much more likely is New Zealand holding two World Cups.
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I don't feel so bad now they have beaten Pakistan today.
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To this point Englands World Cup has been diabolical and a disgrace (relatively speaking and in sporting terms of course).
This is as bad as it’s gets I’m afraid and whatever the mitigation I believe a change has to occur akin to the Bangladesh watershed back in 2015.
A total and utter shambles!
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This is absolutely amazing from maxwell
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This is absolutely amazing from maxwell
One of the very best knocks ever given the context of how important the win was for the team, the position of the game when he came in and the injury. Unbelievable! |
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The Aussies doing what the Aussies do.
Like England, they looked shaky at the start of the tournament, but unlike England, they found a way to win and are now in the final, after a nervy semi final against S.Africa, who looked superb at the start of the tournament.
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Indian batting v the Saffas taking inspiration from our defence v Walsall? India were153-4, 11 balls later Ravi Shastri said commentating, if someone has just nipped out for a dump India are 153 all out…
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Indian batting v the Saffas taking inspiration from our defence v Walsall? India were153-4, 11 balls later Ravi Shastri said commentating, if someone has just nipped out for a dump India are 153 all out…
India did win though. The quickest ever game with a winner in test match history. Must have been a brute of a pitch to bat on. |
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At least the cricket is compelling after yesterday’s misery…India120-7 needing 231…
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Incredible, Bazball Test cricket never fails to deliver atm, even when we lose. Brilliant from the Ormskirk lad - what a ball to get Bharat just when the game was getting away from us.
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