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Humbercod
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Yeah right.

Your lot are still blaming the labour party despite being in power for 12 years.

Everything is always someone else's fault.  Europe, red tape, immigrants, Muslims, single mothers, dole cheats, unpatriotic brits, the previous government etc.

You were duped and you can't face facts.






Sorry to hear your still hurting over Brexit but could you explain what you mean by ‘Yeah right’ and ‘Your Lot’?
For the record I’m no Tory and I’ve made this clear on numerous occasions, I have no affiliation with any political party, voting for all the 3 main party’s in my lifetime.
Or maybe you mean Brexiteer’s?  Many Labour voters would’ve voted for Brexit so this wouldn’t make sense. Please clarify🥴
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Nah!
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Erm…we are heading into a cost of living (lockdown)crisis! The same as Spain, France, Germany, Greece, Italy etc. Nothing at all to do with the Brexit we haven’t got in its entirety.
Brexit or no Brexit we would still be suffering high inflation and heading into a recession right now, and yes just like the rest of the EU!!!
On a positive our unemployment rates remain low -

Spain 12.5%
Italy 8.1%
France 7.3%
Germany 5.4%
United Kingdom 3.8%
But I wouldn’t claim as a result of Brexit 😉


Perhaps Spanish people could come live here then fill some of the tens of thousands of vacancies in the NHS. Even just answer the phone at the GP Surgery.

Some train and bus drivers would be good as well.

I would also have liked a Spanish student over here learning English perhaps to serve me a beer at the Leyton Technical pub before the Orient game…


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Unemployment is low because our productivity is in the fecking toilet in comparison to other Western economies. Probably due to underemployment with people employed in loads of McShit jobs.

Yes, we are hugely unproductive in comparison to our peers. Here's a link from 4 years ago and things haven't got any better since then:

https://www.ft.com/content/6ada0002-9a57-11e8-9702-5946bae86e6d
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Don’t forget that the tories sodomist about with statistics to ensure unemployment is low…

Aside from most production being done elsewhere and there seemingly a raft of jobs available which contradicts what government lie to us about…


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Don’t forget that the tories sodomist about with statistics to ensure unemployment is low…

Aside from most production being done elsewhere and there seemingly a raft of jobs available which contradicts what government lie to us about…


Both main parties are culpable for the abject failures in our higher education system. Labour massively ramped up University places alongside introduction of tuition fees, and undercooked incentives for trade apprenticeships. The Tories have made it far far worse - Osbourne scrapping bursaries for nurses and lo and behold we are short of tens of thousands of them.

We need to install millions of heat pumps in the next 15 years to get to net zero - not a fecking hope in hell. Older gas engineers will just retire rather than retrain and we are ten of thousands short of apprentices going into the trade and construction.

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Both main parties are culpable for the abject failures in our higher education system. Labour massively ramped up University places alongside introduction of tuition fees, and undercooked incentives for trade apprenticeships. The Tories have made it far far worse - Osbourne scrapping bursaries for nurses and lo and behold we are short of tens of thousands of them.

We need to install millions of heat pumps in the next 15 years to get to net zero - not a fecking hope in hell. Older gas engineers will just retire rather than retrain and we are ten of thousands short of apprentices going into the trade and construction.



Forget heat pumps they are practically useless, I know heating engineers who are getting jobs to remove heat pumps and reinstalling gas boilers. Let’s be honest Net Zero is just pie in the sky and it’s time we stopped banging on about it, these energy companies are earning billions make them invest in innovation from the profits. We could cut these green levy’s now and help the people living today.
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Forget heat pumps they are practically useless, I know heating engineers who are getting jobs to remove heat pumps and reinstalling gas boilers. Let’s be honest Net Zero is just pie in the sky and it’s time we stopped banging on about it, these energy companies are earning billions make them invest in innovation from the profits. We could cut these green levy’s now and help the people living today.


They're not useless but they're not as effective as gas and far more costly to run. They're also not very easily retrofitted if a house had a gas boiler initially. They've come on a lot in the last few years but have still got some way to go before they're as good as gas. (Other half works for one of the big six energy companies in the heating network)
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They're not useless but they're not as effective as gas and far more costly to run. They're also not very easily retrofitted if a house had a gas boiler initially. They've come on a lot in the last few years but have still got some way to go before they're as good as gas. (Other half works for one of the big six energy companies in the heating network)


They are actually more efficient than gas and direct electric, especially for hot water, but they are more costly to run in poorly insulated homes with the price differential between gas and electricity per unit as at present.

These are cheaper to run than gas or direct immersion for hot water https://www.heatershop.co.uk/dimplex-edl200uk and are good for retrofit especially for homes that already have a HW cylinder in a cupboard near an outside wall. I agree heat pumps are not a ubiquitous solution for older homes and also not necessarily the right solution for central heating for smaller new build homes. For larger new build homes air source heat pumps are probably the way forward. Government is just making a wave of the hand assumption that we install millions of them to hit net zero though.



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They are actually more efficient than gas and direct electric, especially for hot water, but they are more costly to run in poorly insulated homes with the price differential between gas and electricity per unit as at present.

These are cheaper to run than gas or direct immersion for hot water https://www.heatershop.co.uk/dimplex-edl200uk and are good for retrofit especially for homes that already have a HW cylinder in a cupboard near an outside wall. I agree heat pumps are not a ubiquitous solution for older homes and also not necessarily the right solution for central heating for smaller new build homes. For larger new build homes air source heat pumps are probably the way forward. Government is just making a wave of the hand assumption that we install millions of them to hit net zero though.





Hot water is crap when the temperature drops customers and installers are finding out. I would think that given the choice they would opt for a gas boiler all day long. Ive been to a few properties myself and from what the customers tell me is that the excellent government incentives made the decision, but unless they’re installed correctly they will be totally useless.

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