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Changing the direction of conversation slightly, does anyone know what our biggest cup win in our our history is, in terms of the league position gap vs the team we beat?
Southampton were 64 places above us. We were actually top of League Two when we beat Spurs (who were 8th in the PL at the time), so that’s 60 places. Brighton are also 8th (though they could drop a place later tonight) so with us currently 17th that’s a whopping 77 position gap.
I’m fairly sure Southampton is the greatest deficit we’ve overcome in my lifetime, with Town being in the second tier when we beat the likes of West Ham and Liverpool, and third tier when we beat Villa, Wednesday and Leicester in the 90s.
Those are all the top-flight giant killings I can think of in my time following Town (though I may have missed a couple). Would an improbable win at Brighton genuinely be our greatest cup win in our 145 year history (and was Southampton the greatest so far)?
To answer your last question, it wouldn’t just be our greatest cup win, it’d go down as one of the biggest in the cups history. I’m struggling to think of anything bigger than a League 2 club going to the semis, Wigan or Wimbledon winning the thing? But even then, they were top flight sides. FWIW Southampton is the best in our history IMO, mainly for the reward of a quarter final (still can’t believe it).
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To answer your last question, it wouldn’t just be our greatest cup win, it’d go down as one of the biggest in the cups history. I’m struggling to think of anything bigger than a League 2 club going to the semis, Wigan or Wimbledon winning the thing? But even then, they were top flight sides.
Wycombe beat Premier League Leicester to make the semis in 2001, thanks to that fabled Roy Essandoh goal, though they were a third tier side. Lincoln of course reached the quarters in 2017 as a non-league side, which was equally if not more impressive I would say, begrudgingly. So maybe you’re right, a League Two side in the semis would just be incredible, wouldn’t it. It remains so, so unlikely but isn’t it just mental that two years ago today we lost 2-1 at home to Forest Green to find ourselves 5 points adrift at the bottom of the EFL after a run of 3 straight defeats, and now we are one win away from being that club. It’s almost incomprehensible to me.
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Changing the direction of conversation slightly, does anyone know what our biggest cup win in our our history is, in terms of the league position gap vs the team we beat?
Southampton were 64 places above us. We were actually top of League Two when we beat Spurs (who were 8th in the PL at the time), so that’s 60 places. Brighton are also 8th (though they could drop a place later tonight) so with us currently 17th that’s a whopping 77 position gap.
I’m fairly sure Southampton is the greatest deficit we’ve overcome in my lifetime, with Town being in the second tier when we beat the likes of West Ham and Liverpool, and third tier when we beat Villa, Wednesday and Leicester in the 90s.
Those are all the top-flight giant killings I can think of in my time following Town (though I may have missed a couple). Would an improbable win at Brighton genuinely be our greatest cup win in our 145 year history (and was Southampton the greatest so far)?
Great question 👍 In my opinion, due to the reasons you mentioned, it definitely would be our biggest scalp.
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Changing the direction of conversation slightly, does anyone know what our biggest cup win in our history is, in terms of the league position gap vs the team we beat?
Southampton were 64 places above us. We were actually top of League Two when we beat Spurs (who were 8th in the PL at the time), so that’s 60 places. Brighton are also 8th (though they could drop a place later tonight) so with us currently 17th that’s a whopping 77 position gap.
I’m fairly sure Southampton is the greatest deficit we’ve overcome in my lifetime, with Town being in the second tier when we beat the likes of West Ham and Liverpool, and third tier when we beat Villa, Wednesday and Leicester in the 90s.
Those are all the top-flight giant killings I can think of in my time following Town (though I may have missed a couple). Would an improbable win at Brighton genuinely be our greatest cup win in our 145 year history (and was Southampton the greatest so far)?
Middlesborough must be very close in 88/89, IIRC they were 10th in the top flight and we were 4th bottom of the 4th Division at the time we played them. That win would have got far more national coverage had then non-league Sutton, not beaten then top-flight Coventry City.
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Middlesborough must be very close in 88/89, IIRC they were 10th in the top flight and we were 4th bottom of the 4th Division at the time we played them.
Yeah Middlesborough, we were 4th bottom of league 2, not sure on their position though? Villa in the league Cup when we won 3 1, perhaps, they were going really well at the time although I am pretty sure we would have been higher than we are now?
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Middlesborough must be very close in 88/89, IIRC they were 10th in the top flight and we were 4th bottom of the 4th Division at the time we played them.
That win would have got far more national coverage had then non-league Sutton, not beaten then top-flight Coventry City.
Good shout. Boro were 13th in the top flight while we were 20th in division 4. By my maths that’s 74 places apart, so more than Southampton but not quite as big a gap as Brighton will likely be. I have to admit, being only 3 years old at the time of the Middlesbrough game, it’s a result that I knew of and I have seen the late Marc North goals countless times, but I hadn’t appreciated quite how far apart the two sides were until now. Quite the result, that. https://mobile.twitter.com/ont.....etUser=onthisGTFCday
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Yeah Middlesborough, we were 4th bottom of league 2, not sure on their position though?
Villa in the league Cup when we won 3 1, perhaps, they were going really well at the time although I am pretty sure we would have been higher than we are now?
Didn’t we knock Villa out on away goals after two draws? I think the 3-1 might have been against Coventry, and we got knocked out anyway as Kevin Drinkell did us in the 2nd leg.
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Nobody has mentioned the shirt sleeve sponsorship from the Luton game onwards.
good point. has anyone idea how much these types of sponsorship cost?
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Never got the coverage from the media that that Middlesbrough result deserved..one of my best away days ever watching Town that one.
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Never got the coverage from the media that that Middlesbrough result deserved..one of my best away days ever watching Town that one.
I had the misfortune of living in Middlesbrough for three years in my late teens / early twenties. The spot where Ayresome Park was is now a small housing estate, with street names attempting to honour what went before but clearly the lazy work of a housing developer’s marketing team (“The Turnstile”, “The Midfield”, rather than anything unique to the club). The surrounding area is rough as fúck though, much of what I remember is now razed to the ground, and I’ve often wondered what it must have been like as an away day. I can only imagine it was edgy.
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