Yeovil prematch interview

Just watched the Yeovil prematch interview with Gwilym Lloyd. Entertaining for a number of reasons!! I have to say I know his name but not much about him, however think it is safe to say Grimsby town football club is not his specialist subject!!

On a more serious note Hurst spoke about giving the youth team graduates more time to develop, rather than giving them 12 months and then releasing them which sounds positive. Another good sign of proper planning at the club and having a structure in place. Hopefully something we will see the benefits of in the next couple of years.

He let Starbuck and idehen go and both have recently been in championship squads .So I wouldn't hold my breath on him spotting youngsters potential or playing them

Quoted from Norseman

He let Starbuck and idehen go and both have recently been in championship squads .So I wouldn't hold my breath on him spotting youngsters potential or playing them

They were both out their depth and showed nothing.

But yeah another thing to beat Hurst with

Quoted from Hagrid

They were both out their depth and showed nothing.

But yeah another thing to beat Hurst with

Bit of a mute point really H, especially seeing as though they've gone to higher level, so must have shown something for a club to take them on.
It's about seeing the potential and having the structure to nurture that talent, that what's we lack currently, we don't have that link between youth and first team and Hurst did mention that's being looked at presently.

Quoted from Norseman

He let Starbuck and idehen go and both have recently been in championship squads .So I wouldn't hold my breath on him spotting youngsters potential or playing them

If higher placed clubs expressed an interest in taking them it wouldn’t have been right for the club to prevent that if this is what the player wanted.

Quoted from Norseman

He let Starbuck and idehen go and both have recently been in championship squads .So I wouldn't hold my breath on him spotting youngsters potential or playing them

Starbuck and Idehen had both been contracted professionals around an absolute shower of turd which probably had an impact on them. Norwich and Lincoln before us didn't think Idehen warranted a pro deal either so maybe the third rejection was the kick up the backside he needed?

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Bit of a mute point really H, especially seeing as though they've gone to higher level, so must have shown something for a club to take them on.
It's about seeing the potential and having the structure to nurture that talent, that what's we lack currently, we don't have that link between youth and first team and Hurst did mention that's being looked at presently.

Exactly. A Formula 1 car has the potential to go 230mph, but if it isn’t surrounded by a massive team of mechanics & engineers managing every single nut & bolt, it probably won’t make it off the grid, or will end up hitting a wall if it does.

Starbuck & Idehen might be F1 cars, but your local Halfords isn’t going to get the best out of them, and that’s what we are at the minute.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Bit of a mute point really H, especially seeing as though they've gone to higher level, so must have shown something for a club to take them on.
It's about seeing the potential and having the structure to nurture that talent, that what's we lack currently, we don't have that link between youth and first team and Hurst did mention that's being looked at presently.

Fair Point, for me though, Starbuck especially showed absolutely nothing for us

and i dont recall any complaints from fans when he was made available to leave

Based on Idehens performances for us I will be absolutely amazed if he plays at Championship level

As far as I am aware they were told to leave if another club would take on their contracts and we have a sell-on fee for them. At that stage, we couldn't have sold them on as they weren't developed enough, so we let them go to other clubs to develop at a greater rate than they could have with GTFC and we reap the rewards if they get sold.

I could be wrong - but if my memory serves me correctly, both Starbuck & Idehen were made available with sell on clauses?

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

As far as I am aware they were told to leave if another club would take on their contracts and we have a sell-on fee for them. At that stage, we couldn't have sold them on as they weren't developed enough, so we let them go to other clubs to develop at a greater rate than they could have with GTFC and we reap the rewards if they get sold.

Idehen was released which made little sense and even less when he then signs for a championship club. Starbuck less of an issue, because he showed very little. Idehen lacked confidence and composure, but had the raw ability to be a good defender.

Quoted from pen penfras

Idehen was released which made little sense and even less when he then signs for a championship club. Starbuck less of an issue, because he showed very little. Idehen lacked confidence and composure, but had the raw ability to be a good defender.

Idehen was made available for months, no one came in for him, then released, and a champ side take him on trial. I can't see why u are criticising the current regime here tbf, I get the feeling u would be critical if was still employed by us too..... I.e. no win

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

As far as I am aware they were told to leave if another club would take on their contracts and we have a sell-on fee for them. At that stage, we couldn't have sold them on as they weren't developed enough, so we let them go to other clubs to develop at a greater rate than they could have with GTFC and we reap the rewards if they get sold.

Championship clubs can afford to take a chance on a " maybe " , we have to be sure it's not so much as a " maybe " but a " quite possibly ". The fact that PH released these two players could be a reflection of the ethos at the club the. It could be that the new owners are prepared to allow PH to speculate a bit more on emerging talent?
Managers judge emerging young players in many different ways - some can seem to have potential to one manager but not to another. It's not specifically a reflection of just their ability but their application, attitude, temperament and  willingness to learn. Young players get rejected by Premiersh*t clubs but still blossom in the end and do well at another club at the same level.

Oh come on anybody that saw idehan play can have no complaints about hurst getting rid he was like bambi on ice , bristol city do fill bench with youngsters he will never play in championship unless i'v got it wrong & it not unusual

Does nobody recognise the connection of Hollowwords taking a gamble on players from a few levels below us who nearly all turned out to be duffers, with Bristol City taking a gamble on a player from a few levels lower than them?

Quoted from pen penfras

Idehen was released which made little sense and even less when he then signs for a championship club. Starbuck less of an issue, because he showed very little. Idehen lacked confidence and composure, but had the raw ability to be a good defender.

I wonder if the Norwich and Lincoln forums sit there moaning about letting Idehen go in 2018 and 2019? Ipswich let Ryan Bennett go on a free and he ended up in the Premier League too. Even though he's ended up in the Championship, a lot still needs to go in his favour for him to make it. Rumarn Burrell played 4 games for us in 2019 and we sold him to Middlesbrough for a reported £100k which looks like a very good deal on our part right now.

Quoted from HarrogateMariner

Just watched the Yeovil prematch interview with Gwilym Lloyd. Entertaining for a number of reasons!! I have to say I know his name but not much about him, however think it is safe to say Grimsby town football club is not his specialist subject!!

On a more serious note Hurst spoke about giving the youth team graduates more time to develop, rather than giving them 12 months and then releasing them which sounds positive. Another good sign of proper planning at the club and having a structure in place. Hopefully something we will see the benefits of in the next couple of years.

Given the going rate for a ready-made off-the-shelf striker who could score the goals needed to get us back to L2, it makes complete sense to try and develop
one of our own.

(* Gets misty-eyed thinking about Drinkell and Wilkinson...  *)

Won't start a new thread so just going to say it here..

Safe journey to everyone. For me this is the biggest game so, far, anything but a win makes the table look worrying with a few tough games to come after. UTM