Croatia refuse to take the knee in Euro’s

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

That only provides further evidence that supporters are divided and some will show their displeasure before we have even kicked off. Hardly the best way to start important matches, is it?

Taking the knee has not made one iota of difference apart from alienating some sections of the fan base.

48% is too few to have your opinion even considered as valid and worth debating so 39%…

Got to say I love Croatia, its a beautiful country.

There's definitely a racist element amongst their football fans, the national team was playing behind closed doors last time we where there. However, we didn't experience any racism, even outside of the main tourist areas. The people we met were universally lovely.

I know a lot of people are only against the 'Marxist' element of BLM rather then the anti-racism element. Not sure how much you know about Croatia but there is a huge amount of 'Marxism' left over from their communist past. Their education system is free all the way up to masters level, their healthcare is free and of a very good standard and most of the major industries are still state owned (oil, transport, telecommunications, water and even a chunk of the tourism industry).

Quoted from LH

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Most people are fed up of the knee thing according to a minority of people.

Is that the same minority who opposed Brexit ?

I personally am bored of the taking the knee, but then it’s easy for me as I’m white, but deep down I have no issue with the team keeping up their stance.

I think some, including me, react to the knee with thoughts like “yes, we get it, enough”, but of course there are the racists out there who definitely are racist, and they don’t get it.

The real problem is you’ll never completely eradicate racism, you can’t reach out to 100% of the population. When some idiot says something abhorrent on Twitter to a player, the papers jump on it and state that football has a problem with racism. Personally I don’t  think football has any worse a problem with racism than society as a whole. You can’t tarnish football as being overly racist when 1 tool from 67 million people makes outdated comments.

I actually think football in the uk is ahead of most other countries, but I do admit it’s probably still not enough.

We are supposed to be playing football not making political statements.
If you must take the knee do it in the dressing room and not in front of the crowd

I beg forgiveness if this offends, it genuinely is not meant to. My query regarding taking the knee, or aversion to it I should say. Is that kneeling before someone shows subversion, like they are your master and you must obey and do as you are told so to speak. In history slaves were made to kneel, we’re thankfully at the point where this is not an acceptable thing to make someone do. So why are we taking the knee? Is it to highlight that taking the knee was wrong in the first place? That we all now are submissive to each other? That no one group of people or race have power over another? All the above? I applaud the direct and hopefully successful movement by humans to ensure equality for all people but wonder if a different symbol would knit us all together better or if a divisive one works because it is divisive. Again apologies if I’ve offended.

Poojah - stick to the comedy posts.

Maybe we should call this thread I’m not a racist but…

Oooh if UEFA kick out Croatia the broadcasters will not be happy at losing their prime match. Not that money is any consideration of course.

So if expulsion  was used a threat and Croatian players then kneel ………… would that mean they really mean it? Then you have 2 teams doing it, one wants to and one doesn’t. But in the eyes of God they are all making the same gesture?

But I am sure some compromise will be reached whereby the Croatians will squeeze by.

It is not good when this action is being talked about more than the actual game.