Hurst v Holloway (In the dugout)

I’ve looked at some stats based upon the number of games Hurst and Holloway stood in the dugout.

There’s a couple of games neither were present, and to be fair to Hurst, until he started to bring in his own players and that was complete by end of Jan, he was saddled with Holloway’s dross.

Holloway:
Played 19
Goals For 17
Goals Against 32
GD -15

Hurst:
Played 12
Goals For 5
Goals Against 15
GD -10

As I’ve said, Hurst was saddled with Holloway’s players for much of January, early on suffering a couple of 3 nils whilst getting to know his team. Arguably that gives him a -6 goal disadvantage so to speak

If you look at Hursts last 9 games, he’s never lost by more than a single goal.

But there’s no doubt that goals have dried up.

I know Hurst now has an analyist on board. It must be jumping off the page that the problem is that we DO NOT create enough clear goal scoring opportunities when we have the ball.

Getting that sorted is our one and only hope of performing the great escape, assuming Barrow, Colchester and Port Vale can get back to their consistent bad form, which they may well do.

Add to the above that Holloway’s team ineptitude was also at its height when being knocked out of the FA Cup with a 3-1 embarrassment v Dagenham and Redbridge

Now we have the defence sorted we only need one goal to win.

Quoted from chrissy

Now we have the defence sorted we only need one goal to win.

Win every game 1-0 and you walk the league!

(Pedant alert: Hurst has had 13 games now, not 12)

At this point its pretty irrelevant comparing goal difference. The only stat that matters is points gained.

Sadly, we get zero points for a 1-0 loss just the same as a 0-3 loss. Of course I get that it's better to not be losing games by bigger margins, but we're still not winning games. And it worries me that Hurst's points per game ratio of 0.54 is worse than Holloways ratio (this season only) of 1 point per game.

Holloway’s PPG might have been even better if he’d not completely fuckedup pre-season. He could have then runaway with a better cushion to keep us out of the bottom two.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

I’ve looked at some stats based upon the number of games Hurst and Holloway stood in the dugout.

There’s a couple of games neither were present, and to be fair to Hurst, until he started to bring in his own players and that was complete by end of Jan, he was saddled with Holloway’s dross.

Holloway:
Played 19
Goals For 17
Goals Against 32
GD -15

Hurst:
Played 12
Goals For 5
Goals Against 15
GD -10

As I’ve said, Hurst was saddled with Holloway’s players for much of January, early on suffering a couple of 3 nils whilst getting to know his team. Arguably that gives him a -6 goal disadvantage so to speak

If you look at Hursts last 9 games, he’s never lost by more than a single goal.

But there’s no doubt that goals have dried up.

I know Hurst now has an analyist on board. It must be jumping off the page that the problem is that we DO NOT create enough clear goal scoring opportunities when we have the ball.

Getting that sorted is our one and only hope of performing the great escape, assuming Barrow, Colchester and Port Vale can get back to their consistent bad form, which they may well do.

Add to the above that Holloway’s team ineptitude was also at its height when being knocked out of the FA Cup with a 3-1 embarrassment v Dagenham and Redbridge

Pretty sure that an analyst isnt needed to work that one out.

Quoted from moosey_club

Pretty sure that an analyst isnt needed to work that one out.

It’s not like the regime to misunderstand what modern sports coaching and management is about.

Fenty probably thought a strength and conditioning coach is to do with hair products.

When you are in a lifeboat, having escaped the Titanic, it matters not a jot why the Titanic sank.  Whether an iceberg or rocks.  The outcome is the same.

I don't really blame Hurst for not going all gung-ho attacking, as I think we'd quickly be back to getting pasted by big scores. The main thing that frustrates me is we don't seem to have any pre-thought out / practiced routines on attacking set pieces. I get the distinct impression ther are no set routines and its all off the cuff and badly executed. If you're struggling for goals from open play, then at the very least make yourself dangerous from set plays.

Quoted from Tommy

(Pedant alert: Hurst has had 13 games now, not 12)

At this point its pretty irrelevant comparing goal difference. The only stat that matters is points gained.

Sadly, we get zero points for a 1-0 loss just the same as a 0-3 loss. Of course I get that it's better to not be losing games by bigger margins, but we're still not winning games. And it worries me that Hurst's points per game ratio of 0.54 is worse than Holloways ratio (this season only) of 1 point per game.

I didn’t include the first game as it was practically on the day he joined