Mariners Trust AGM

Quoted from grimsby pete

As a lifetime member of the Trust I did not want the shares to go to Fent y but understood why the Trust voted to give them to him.It was a vote and the result was give them.

They could ask Fenty for the money back but doubt the right fisted git would give them.

Quoted from DB

I'm still waiting for an answer post 102 :-


'Courting with the idea of becoming a trust member I have a simple question regarding the shares  gifted to JF. Is it not possible for the trust to ask for them back.

I seem to have read that the shares were gifted to him to use under custodianship or words to that affect. Apart from that as JF is giving up his ownership and therefore will have no need for them surely the right and correct thing to do is for him to return them to the trust. In doing so he is not out of pocket as he has not paid for them.

I cannot see why the Trust cannot make such a request as they would be in a win win situation. They may, unlikely as it is, have the shares returned to them and if not returned they would be able to show they tried. They would also be able to show that JF is the sort of person the contributors on The Fishy say he is.'

Also if your are a lifetime member why has your name colour not been changed to green and can you open a thread on the Mariners Trust Board so issues may be posted their,
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Quoted from crusty ole pie

The consortium have agreed a price for fentys shares  if he starts to gift some away than the deal would need to be resorted the only thing we can hope is that Jf does the correct thing and donates the value back to the trust in hard cash

Quoted from barralad

I'm confused. We don't have any spotters Stasi or otherwise.

Quoted from barralad

My world?? It's the world of democracy as gifted to us by the Ancient Greeks.
The balloting period was at least four weeks. Plenty of time for the stiff opposition to have motivated themselves to join and vote. Obviously it wasnt that stiff-presumably put off by the extortionate cost of joining the Trust.
I'm fairly used to your style now after our disagreements elsewhere and can see that you have made an enormous assumption that a vote by the whole fan base (forgetting momentarily that we've already reached an understanding that the shares were gifted to the Trust) would have given a different outcome. JFs line of attack that he would be prepared to sell Hearn spooked 87% of the Trust members. Who is to say somewhere near the same percentage of the fan base at large wouldnt have done the same.

Quoted from forza ivano

Not being funny James, but maybe it would be a good idea if you could pm barralad, or email the Trust, and outline what could be done, and how it could be done
3 other side points
1)when the Trust was founded the several hundred members of It's A Grim Exile was also 'folded in'
2) i know from personal experience how difficult it is to keep getting a membership to renew their fees. It does take some time and tenacity and you are always going to lose a fair few along the way
3) i think there is a 'chicken and egg' aspect to the criticism of the Trust and Barra's /The Trust's defensiveness. i think i'd be pretty touchy if i was giving up my time and putting in that amount of unpaid effort and then seeing criticism from people who aren't members or who just carp from the sidelines and won't help. Equally the Trust would be silly to ignore some of the more sensible viewpoints and advice that have been aired on this thread.

I just hope that with the Holy Trinity coming in, which will mean the club will be upping it's game, that the Trust will also be able to up its game. I'm certain it can only do so if more people do a little bit to help

Quoted from friskneymariner

The very reason why I will not belong to any hierarchical organisations

Quoted from Yoda

What the trust did was a disgrace giving all those shares away.
You should of called his bluff he’s all hot air was he going to put us into administration and loose all his money.no.!!!

Quoted from barralad

It was recognised a while ago that you were right in regard to membership. Part of the problem was our lack of ability to follow up on those whose membership had lapsed because our (very) aged membership system didnt have that facility.
The new membership system is in effect controlled by the individual member who can log in and update personal details etc. It will send out automatic reminders to renew.
Since Christmas we have been able to explore this to great effect. A surprising number of people we contacted stated that they had just forgotten to renew. Since the turn of the year we have added a significant number. Some of these will be of course because of an interest in the potential take over but nevertheless it represents a promising start.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

On the membership question though, I remember you and Bob always banging the drum for IAGE at away games, literally approaching every little cluster and individual in the Town end and in pubs. Membership drives aren’t all about technology, but are often about talking to people face-to-face. Being there to put the argument and answer questions. Old fashioned, but effective.

And I bet nowadays, in these times of virtual comms, even more effective because it would be such a pleasant surprise for people brought up on social media.