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Eastendmariner
February 1, 2021, 6:11pm
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he was a good player My 10 year old daughter still mentions that night at Colchester last season and CV Hatrick will stick in her memory always  

Like many half decent players that have come and gone from our club since she has been supporting Town she asks where are certain players that have shown real promise Ive had to say OH he's left Grimsby. Why ? Its simple penny pinching time and time again

In the old days they went to big ones Villa Everton  er not Burton

scrooge is alive and well and and not just for xmas at our club anyway  


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he was a good player My 10 year old daughter still mentions that night at Colchester last season and CV Hatrick will stick in her memory always  

Like many half decent players that have come and gone from our club since she has been supporting Town she asks where are certain players that have shown real promise Ive had to say OH he's left Grimsby. Why ? Its simple penny pinching time and time again

In the old days they went to big ones Villa Everton  er not Burton

scrooge is alive and well and and not just for xmas at our club anyway  


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In the old days they went to big ones Villa Everton  er not Burton


Not to mention the three good players we lost to the mighty Hartlepool.

What a flipping shambles.
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Really fecking annoyed by this I must admit.


Same, just another example of our current Board's and former managers ineptitude.

But what made me even more p1ssed off was this...

https://twitter.com/mattiepollock4/status/1356270880263909383?s=21

I’m glad Pollock is pleased for him ........ FFS🤦‍♂️


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The club took advice on Vernams contract extension from the EFL and they gave Town and because of that we lost Vernam


Yeah yeah yeah. Yadder yadder yadder.


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Same, just another example of our current Board's and former managers ineptitude.

But what made me even more p1ssed off was this...

https://twitter.com/mattiepollock4/status/1356270880263909383?s=21

I’m glad Pollock is pleased for him ........ FFS🤦‍♂️


He's congratulating his mate on getting a new job?  


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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He's congratulating his mate on getting a new job?  


Apparently you're not allowed to be mates with people after they quit the same workplace as you.  

This idea that the players need to act like fans of the club is just funny, A lot of people who play for us grew up in different places and support different teams. They don't switch to supporters with blind loyalty to whoever they play for. As long as they give their best while they play for us just be happy for them if they choose to move on for a better deal.
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He is quick but even in his purple patch here he was out of the game for long spells. Doesn’t matter if you suddenly get a worldly but I don’t think Hurst would feel that sort of player was worth paying biggish money for. He likes workers and the side needs workers now more than ever, so no great loss to Town.


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Vernam is bucking that trend where ex-players or players out the squad get better the longer since they last played for us.

Vernam was superb from December to March.  Prior to that he rarely had a regular run in the team, he struggled with injuries and when he did get game time he kept picking up niggles left, right and centre. His injury record was one of the reasons Derby released him.

The loan spell at Chorley did him the world of good, be it a confidence boost or a kick up the backside, but it worked.  Credit to Limbrick who brought him back into the fold and worked with that renewed energy to make him a key part of the team.  The pre-Christmas derby against Scunthorpe was when I personally felt we saw the player Vernam could be.  Having previously just drifted in and out of games, he was ready to take the game by the scruff of the neck and played with the heart of a lion.  

Holloway capitalised on that and focused a lot of our play around him.   As his form improved, so did the attention and with that teams were doubling and even trebling up on him.  That allowed others to flourish in the space created.

As the team began to grow and the introduction of the likes of Benson and Clarke amongst others, Vernam found space again and ripped teams apart.  Ironically it was the Bradford away game where he was just unplayable, the second half in front of the Town fans down that left flank he was on another planet to everyone else on the pitch.  Two, three, sometimes four men on him and he just kept ghosting past them.  

Let's not pretend he was an average player with a purple patch in him.  He is a very, very good player who we took 18 months to get the best out of, mainly because we had a manager in Jolley who was incredibly defensive minded in his approach but no doubt because we've got the sports science set-up of a 1930's side.

Bradford have made a fine signing.  One I'm envious of.
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Vernam is bucking that trend where ex-players or players out the squad get better the longer since they last played for us.

Vernam was superb from December to March.  Prior to that he rarely had a regular run in the team, he struggled with injuries and when he did get game time he kept picking up niggles left, right and centre. His injury record was one of the reasons Derby released him.

The loan spell at Chorley did him the world of good, be it a confidence boost or a kick up the backside, but it worked.  Credit to Limbrick who brought him back into the fold and worked with that renewed energy to make him a key part of the team.  The pre-Christmas derby against Scunthorpe was when I personally felt we saw the player Vernam could be.  Having previously just drifted in and out of games, he was ready to take the game by the scruff of the neck and played with the heart of a lion.  

Holloway capitalised on that and focused a lot of our play around him.   As his form improved, so did the attention and with that teams were doubling and even trebling up on him.  That allowed others to flourish in the space created.

As the team began to grow and the introduction of the likes of Benson and Clarke amongst others, Vernam found space again and ripped teams apart.  Ironically it was the Bradford away game where he was just unplayable, the second half in front of the Town fans down that left flank he was on another planet to everyone else on the pitch.  Two, three, sometimes four men on him and he just kept ghosting past them.  

Let's not pretend he was an average player with a purple patch in him.  He is a very, very good player who we took 18 months to get the best out of, mainly because we had a manager in Jolley who was incredibly defensive minded in his approach but no doubt because we've got the sports science set-up of a 1930's side.

Bradford have made a fine signing.  One I'm envious of.


It’s opinion, I know, but I would be wondering why Burton let him away if he is that good and why somebody like Peterborough for instance has not been in for him before now.  I don’t doubt he has ability and was unlucky with injuries and Jolley as manager but there has to be more to it.



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