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Maringer
January 13, 2021, 12:07am
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Humbercod is clearly trolling. The UK (and Empire) was pretty much bankrupt after WWII. The Atlee government (and a few of the subsequent governments) produced a remarkable turnaround in fortunes through good policy and public sacrifice. Don't they think that the quality of the diet during the rationing was one of the healthiest we've had as a country, despite the limited choice due to limited resources. We didn't have the benefit of a whole continent of resources like the Yanks so we did pretty well, all things considered.

I think the Yanks certainly had one eye on the fact that pre-war, we had been one of their main economic rivals. Certainly didn't hurt them to see us struggle through lack of resources and the debt obligations we had built up during the long war years.
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An interesting view...the rationing system ensured that everyone got their share-however meagre that share was. Labour were elected in 1945 on a manifesto that those who'd been on the front line in the fight for freedom would have their sacrifices recognised. They rejected a continuation of rule by the upper class establishment with the period following the end of the Great War still very much in living memory.


Yet if you had the money you were free to visit restaurants that were surprisingly immune from rationing! Attlee’s rejection of the ruling class failed its biggest test when he attended princess Elizebeth’s tax payer funded wedding, sparing no expense for the 2000 plus upper class guests in a ration free zone! For the many not the few eh.

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Where do you stand in your attitude to the Americans? It is a matter of fact that the Americans withheld some aid because the British had the temerity elect a Socialist government. Whatever happened to foreign powers not interfering in the internal politics of a sovereign nation?
The system had worked pretty well during the war years. Certainly better than the free for all money talks system that the free market would have heralded.
If rationing was so bad why on earth did Churchill continue with it for another three years after the 51 G.E?


I love the Americans!
Are you talking about the end of lend lease? I think your ‘Facts’ sound a bit far fetched if so, but then again I don’t know a great deal on the subject to be honest.

Churchill’s election campaigned focused on the end of rationing as soon as possible, whilst Attlee unbelievably wanted to prolong it. Churchill made good on his word having Some foods freely available after 2 years and a complete end after 3 as you say.

I’d imagine it takes time to phase out complete rationing after 6 years as I guess the country was still on knees under a socialist regime, don’t forget this was a time of Arkwright style corner shops but with the markets back open the birth of the supermarket was about to begin, these things don’t happen overnight.
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Humbercod is clearly trolling. The UK (and Empire) was pretty much bankrupt after WWII. The Atlee government (and a few of the subsequent governments) produced a remarkable turnaround in fortunes through good policy and public sacrifice. Don't they think that the quality of the diet during the rationing was one of the healthiest we've had as a country, despite the limited choice due to limited resources. We didn't have the benefit of a whole continent of resources like the Yanks so we did pretty well, all things considered.

I think the Yanks certainly had one eye on the fact that pre-war, we had been one of their main economic rivals. Certainly didn't hurt them to see us struggle through lack of resources and the debt obligations we had built up during the long war years.


The Americans looked after us in our time of need we should never forget that. Even after the end of lend lease the money still came in from them. It’s a bit like a John Fenty analogy where he put the money in at a time of great need, but it’s so easy to forget this fact whilst criticising him for everything else that followed.
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Sorry about the worms in your brain humbercod


Excellent repartee! Your intellect is wasted on here 😂
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Yet if you had the money you were free to visit restaurants that were surprisingly immune from rationing! Attlee’s rejection of the ruling class failed its biggest test when he attended princess Elizebeth’s tax payer funded wedding, sparing no expense for the 2000 plus upper class guests in a ration free zone! For the many not the few eh.



I love the Americans!
Are you talking about the end of lend lease? I think your ‘Facts’ sound a bit far fetched if so, but then again I don’t know a great deal on the subject to be honest.

Churchill’s election campaigned focused on the end of rationing as soon as possible, whilst Attlee unbelievably wanted to prolong it. Churchill made good on his word having Some foods freely available after 2 years and a complete end after 3 as you say.

I’d imagine it takes time to phase out complete rationing after 6 years as I guess the country was still on knees under a socialist regime, don’t forget this was a time of Arkwright style corner shops but with the markets back open the birth of the supermarket was about to begin, these things don’t happen overnight.


I know people correcting other people on a website discussion is irritating but I'm not sure where to start with this.
Firstly Churchill understood the need for and actively supported rationing. Contrary to what you say the Tories 1945 campaign barely mentioned rationing. Both major parties (who had been involved in the coalition government) agreed on the need for it to continue. There was no other option. At the time of the election the country was still at war with Japan.
The Tories election campaign did little more than focus on the appeal of Churchill the war leader. At the time Winston's personal approval rating was sky high (from his becoming P.M. in 1940 it never dropped below 70%- a figure current politicians can only dream of). It offered nothing radical whereas Labour's offered real hope of change. The rebuilding of the country, the N.H.S, nationalisation of key industries appealed massively to the population who'd had years of deprivation.


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I’m more than happy to be ‘corrected’ regarding the end of rationing, but I’d paraphrased a professional Historian. A respected Historian who’d extensively researched the post war austerity, so you’ll understand that I’d expect a little more from you just other than your worldly knowledge.
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I’m more than happy to be ‘corrected’ regarding the end of rationing, but I’d paraphrased a professional Historian. A respected Historian who’d extensively researched the post war austerity, so you’ll understand that I’d expect a little more from you just other than your worldly knowledge.


Touche...care to name your respected historian source?


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I was born in ,1948 and can remember going to the corner shop with our ration book.

What I can not remember was going hungry and I think I would if I did because I like my food .


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I was born in ,1948 and can remember going to the corner shop with our ration book.

What I can not remember was going hungry and I think I would if I did because I like my food .
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