Your allegiance to which political party?

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Thing about Theresa May is that she was a excrement politician. She was a excrement Home Secretary (whose 'Hostile environment' created all sorts of still ongoing issues) and proved to be an even more excrement Prime Minister. The fact that Johnson has been even more excrement is neither here nor there. May wanted to be Prime Minister, knowing she faced with an almost impossible situation after Cameron chickened out and did a very poor job once she got the job, almost by default. No sympathy whatsoever.

I'm sure her heart was probably in the right place (unlike Johnson), but it really doesn't help when you're so excrement at your job, does it?

Starmer is the Labour equivalent to Cameron. Wants to get into power because he thinks he'd be good at the job, will do anything to secure his position, but doesn't really have any firm ideals to aim for even if he is elected PM. Without a proper plan of action, you'll get nowhere, as so many governments have discovered in recent years.

What an excellent summary of our current crop of politicians. What you forgot to add is that unlike politicians of decades ago our lot now have no morals or principles. Make statements with little truth and what truth there is stretched beyond that of a limo. And finally if they lose an election go off like winging dog with no guts to stand there corner and fight another day.

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Thing about Theresa May is that she was a excrement politician.
I'm sure her heart was probably in the right place (unlike Johnson), but it really doesn't help when you're so excrement at your job, does it?

Starmer is the Labour equivalent to Cameron. Wants to get into power because he thinks he'd be good at the job, will do anything to secure his position, but doesn't really have any firm ideals to aim for even if he is elected PM. Without a proper plan of action, you'll get nowhere, as so many governments have discovered in recent years.

Interesting take on things . Out of curiosity who do you think was the best prime minister England has ever had?.

Clem Atlee, based on achievements. Just see what his government achieved in just one term of office and in difficult circumstances following the war. The right government at the right time making the right choices for the good of the country. It has taken the Tories many decades to undo much of these achievements but they are still working on it. Let's not forget that Labour won the popular vote by a reasonable amount in 1951 but the changes to boundaries (which may have been fair - I've no idea) gave the Tories a hefty majority.

Churchill was the right person in the right place during the war years but had certain flaws to his character and was always considered a bit of a chancer before the war. That said, he did a decent enough job during his time as PM, generally continuing with the necessary social reforms which were started by Labour. He wouldn't recognise the current Conservative Party.

Attlee stands head and shoulders above the field

Attlee is of the charts the best PM we’ve had. You’d have to be the blindest of the blind anti Labour person to disagree, even every tories favourite chap continued with the policies outlined by Attlee.

This bunch are so incompetent their heroes would be turning in their graves. This lot couldn’t make a decision and stick to it if their lives depended on it. Covid or no Covid, Johnson would be a disaster...let’s face it, nobody had seen nor heard of him leading up to and immediately after the election. Even his own party recognised he was a ducking idiot.

May is an odd one, a woman desperate to be PM but in truth, as explained previously, pretty excrement at every role she held. Thankfully, for her and the people her time will quickly forgotten with these current incumbents...

Attlee was a disgrace he starved the British people with continued rationing for over 6 year after the war had finished. His Labour Party actually believed they could run the food supply better than the markets, socialist nut jobs.Things only got better for the starving people once the conservatives and capitalism took back control. Same old Labour nothing changes.

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Attlee was a disgrace he starved the British people with continued rationing for over 6 year after the war had finished. His Labour Party actually believed they could run the food supply better than the markets, socialist nut jobs.Things only got better for the starving people once the conservatives and capitalism took back control. Same old Labour nothing changes.

There was rationing because there were shortages, not only of food but money , skilled labour and materials, a massive task de mobbing an army, setting up the NHS(against Tory objections) the welfare state, NATO, dealing with the break up of an Empire and starting to rebuild a bombed country, no other Government has changed this country so much for so much the better
Rationing didn’t end in Britain until July 1954, it ensured everyone got enough to survive rather than everything being only bought by those who could afford it

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There was rationing because there were shortages, not only of food but money , skilled labour and materials, a massive task de mobbing an army, setting up the NHS(against Tory objections) the welfare state, NATO, dealing with the break up of an Empire and starting to rebuild a bombed country, no other Government has changed this country so much for so much the better
Rationing didn’t end in Britain until July 1954, it ensured everyone got enough to survive rather than everything being only bought by those who could afford it

What! France and even Germany ended rationing before us! Attlee was a control freak who thought he knew better than the markets. It’s a total socialist fallacy to suggest that Labour was responsible for the NHS and the welfare state it’s not even up for debate. He did such a good job that the starving public voted them out for over a decade.

Sorry about the worms in your brain humbercod

Quoted from Humbercod

Attlee was a disgrace he starved the British people with continued rationing for over 6 year after the war had finished. His Labour Party actually believed they could run the food supply better than the markets, socialist nut jobs.Things only got better for the starving people once the conservatives and capitalism took back control. Same old Labour nothing changes.

An interesting view...the rationing system ensured that everyone got their share-however meagre that share was. Labour were elected in 1945 on a manifesto that those who'd been on the front line in the fight for freedom would have their sacrifices recognised. They rejected a continuation of rule by the upper class establishment with the period following the end of the Great War still very much in living memory. Where do you stand in your attitude to the Americans? It is a matter of fact that the Americans withheld some aid because the British had the temerity elect a Socialist government. Whatever happened to foreign powers not interfering in the internal politics of a sovereign nation?
The system had worked pretty well during the war years. Certainly better than the free for all money talks system that the free market would have heralded.
If rationing was so bad why on earth did Churchill continue with it for another three years after the 51 G.E?