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buckstown
October 14, 2020, 10:57am
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I know sport evolves and hoofball is unattractive, but am I the only person that can feel their blood pressure going up watching league 2 defenders playing out from the back? It's nerve wracking seeing Arsenal or Chelsea do it but at least I can laugh when it goes wrong. Seeing town attempt it makes me feel sick! First two goals last night both came from playing out and were easily avoidable.
I like Waterfall, he's a good league 2 defender but he's not Virgil an Dijk and I wouldn't think any worse of him if he stuck it in row Z every now and again
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However we played we beat one of the best sides in their league 3-1 on their own patch, and could easily have scored several more.

Playing out from the back means you retain possession more often, whilst running the risk of conceding possession in a dangerous position. Provided the benefits of that strategy outweigh the risks over the course of a season, I don't see an issue.


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Football has become very much about keeping the ball. Minimising the opportunity of the opposition having it. This is where the whole playing out from the back thing comes from.

The risks are abundantly clear for both sides and thus, assuming the attacking side are willing to put pressure on, the gamble for them can or may pay off. Similarly, whilst there were occasions last night that got blood pressure going, we managed to hold on to the ball and play our way out. Had we just taken a traditional goal kick the only advantage would’ve been we’d have been in a position perhaps, to defend.

Few forwards or teams with a goal kick do much with it.

It’s modern football and it acruslly does add a little more excitement I guess.


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Quoted from buckstown
I know sport evolves and hoofball is unattractive, but am I the only person that can feel their blood pressure going up watching league 2 defenders playing out from the back? It's nerve wracking seeing Arsenal or Chelsea do it but at least I can laugh when it goes wrong. Seeing town attempt it makes me feel sick! First two goals last night both came from playing out and were easily avoidable.
I like Waterfall, he's a good league 2 defender but he's not Virgil an Dijk and I wouldn't think any worse of him if he stuck it in row Z every now and again


I agree in theory, but with the team we had out last night, lumping balls up front would have ended up with it coming back to us double quick and putting ourselves under constant pressure. Horses for courses. It’s a high risk strategy for sure, sometimes it will work, sometimes it won’t and we will look silly (even Buckley’s teams could look terrible when they had an off day), but it is consistent with the way Holloway wants to play.  

It’s gonna be a roller coaster. I am looking forward to riding it 🙂
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Remember hoofball, Macca's aimless punts upfield with both teams bunched up on the right or left side of the halfway line.

Keeping players back to receive the ball means that the opposition push right up leaving more space to exploit around the pitch.
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Playing out from the back is ok . so long as you dont keep giving it to players that have got someone on them  its just asking for trouble. as we found out last night
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If Rose, Morton, Williams, Tilley and Owura are in space then fine. If Waterfall only has Ludvig or Pollock to pass to then things can go wrong. Good communication is key. Waterfall noticeably was pointing to his ear last night! Rolling the ball out to a full back poses fewer risks perhaps.
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Playing out from the back is alright as long as it does not mean playing backwards. How often do we see that happen? Short ball from GK to defender, a few paces, short ball to midfield or defender who is closed down, short ball sideways or back, closed down  .............  wallop!!

You need a player in midfield who can run with the ball and beat at least one defender, draw others and create space behind them for a pass to forwards and runners.. Joe Waters was excellent at that.


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I can see the benefits of it but we’ll 100% concede goals like last nights again. We all know Macca is the best shot stopper in this league but his distribution is most certainly the weakest part of his game so it makes me extremely nervous. Idehen in particular looked so suspect with it when he came on.

What it did allow yesterday though was bringing our wingers into the game much more regularly and both Tilley & Edwards thrived off it. Lumping up to them doesn’t help them, playing out from the back allows them to pick the ball up with their feet and drive at the opposition more regularly.
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Quoted from mimma
Remember hoofball, Macca's aimless punts upfield with both teams bunched up on the right or left side of the halfway line.

Keeping players back to receive the ball means that the opposition push right up leaving more space to exploit around the pitch.


Which is great assuming the back line have the skill to retain possession and then distribute the ball well and safely exploiting the gap the opposition leave by pushing up. That said its dangerous if not suicidal if the back line and keeper intercourse it up (a long hoof out by the keeper might give the ball to the opposition but at least its around halfway!)



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