Rotten to the core!!

Quoted from MarinerBen

This is what happens when you make midweek games available to steam over the internet in the UK

Nope, this is what happens when the whole experience (on and off the pitch) is simply not worth £22.00.
I would be very confident that the vast majority of those that didn't attend last night were NOT watching on TV/Laptop/Phone etc. They just found something better to do.

Fair response, but I can imagine the streaming will have an adverse effect on atmosphere at BP during the winter season. Combine that with our dull football and current form, the two could result in a rapid decline in attendance.

I feel this whole debate is totally unnecessary. The forum is in total meltdown because we may end up mid-table at the end of the season.
How many seasons did we spend in the conference?
Patience, people, patience....
Yes, the defence isn't as great as we would like and the forwards should create more, but this is work in progress. Clearly, there are some good players out there, and some of the most inconsistent will try to better themselves. This is league two players for a reason.
Give Slade and the team at least until the new year to show improvement.
Then we take it from there.

Quoted from geir

I feel this whole debate is totally unnecessary. The forum is in total meltdown because we may end up mid-table at the end of the season.
How many seasons did we spend in the conference?
Patience, people, patience....
Yes, the defence isn't as great as we would like and the forwards should create more, but this is work in progress. Clearly, there are some good players out there, and some of the most inconsistent will try to better themselves. This is league two players for a reason.
Give Slade and the team at least until the new year to show improvement.
Then we take it from there.

I think you are slightly confused that many fans are more concerned about the running of the club, the lack of drive and enthusiasm from the club to the fanbase, as opposed to the team gelling on the pitch

Surely one is a consequence of the other.

Quoted from Cloudy

I think you are slightly confused that many fans are more concerned about the running of the club, the lack of drive and enthusiasm from the club to the fanbase, as opposed to the team gelling on the pitch

I'll try not to sound as patronising as that reply when I say that the general tenet of the whole reaction appears to me at least to involve considerable criticism of every aspect of the team/management for last nights performance. The total hyperbole of "Player x (input relevant name) is the worst in x position I've ever seen" and repeated statements of "Slade out" suggests that many on here don't necessarily share your  ability to see that bigger picture.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Nope, this is what happens when the whole experience (on and off the pitch) is simply not worth £22.00.
I would be very confident that the vast majority of those that didn't attend last night were NOT watching on TV/Laptop/Phone etc. They just found something better to do.

Yep. I watched TV.

We're mid-table in League 2 and, yes, we've had tougher times (very recently). So why the gloom?

It's a funny one but I've been trying to put my finger on it.

I suppose it's this horrible sense of deja vu. It's Groundhog Day. It's like 2009 has run straight into 2017.

It's like the one good thing that's happened in those intervening years - promotion at Wembley - never actually happened.

I thought returning to the FL would somehow feel different off the back of a promotion, but it all feels worryingly familiar.

We've got an old manager signing old players, playing old tactics, and we're making old mistakes.

I used to think about the future of GTFC, years ahead of where we are. Right now I can't be arsed to check who we're playing after Lincoln.

I'm disinterested because I've seen it all before. I thought we could be different - in manager, approach, the way we're run.

But no. Same old Grimsby.

I love the club but right now it's doing its absolute best not to be loved.

Twitter account can't be arsed, social activity is dull, majority shareholder trying to control what people say, falling out with local media.

I thought a spell in non-league would shake us up, help us learn from our past mistakes.

So far it feels like we've learnt nothing and I feel like we've become a club that is, once again, just waiting to fall back into non-league.

Maybe not this season, maybe not next. But it'll happen unless we change our ideas from the very top.

Quoted from MarinerBen

This is what happens when you make midweek games available to steam over the internet in the UK

That deal doesn't start for another 2 seasons.

Quoted from barralad

I'll try not to sound as patronising as that reply when I say that the general tenet of the whole reaction appears to me at least to involve considerable criticism of every aspect of the team/management for last nights performance. The total hyperbole of "Player x (input relevant name) is the worst in x position I've ever seen" and repeated statements of "Slade out" suggests that many on here don't necessarily share your  ability to see that bigger picture.

The first post of this thread and the title itself refers to much deeper concerns than what happened in 90  minutes last night IMO!!!

Quoted from RichMariner

Yep. I watched TV.

We're mid-table in League 2 and, yes, we've had tougher times (very recently). So why the gloom?

It's a funny one but I've been trying to put my finger on it.

I suppose it's this horrible sense of deja vu. It's Groundhog Day. It's like 2009 has run straight into 2017.

It's like the one good thing that's happened in those intervening years - promotion at Wembley - never actually happened.

I thought returning to the FL would somehow feel different off the back of a promotion, but it all feels worryingly familiar.

We've got an old manager signing old players, playing old tactics, and we're making old mistakes.

I used to think about the future of GTFC, years ahead of where we are. Right now I can't be arsed to check who we're playing after Lincoln.

I'm disinterested because I've seen it all before. I thought we could be different - in manager, approach, the way we're run.

But no. Same old Grimsby.

I love the club but right now it's doing its absolute best not to be loved.

Twitter account can't be arsed, social activity is dull, majority shareholder trying to control what people say, falling out with local media.

I thought a spell in non-league would shake us up, help us learn from our past mistakes.

So far it feels like we've learnt nothing and I feel like we've become a club that is, once again, just waiting to fall back into non-league.

Maybe not this season, maybe not next. But it'll happen unless we change our ideas from the very top.

Very good post - I sat there last night thinking that, apart from the painting - appropriately black, to capture the mood - of the railings on the Upper, nothing has changed. We seem to be sleepwalking into the wilderness with uninspiring football from moderate footballers in a defunct and dilapidated stadium with no direction. Any attempt to suggest that this might be the case is met with various mantras from those in authority that all will be fine when we get some football fortune.