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| February 10, 2017, 10:09pm |
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As a former referee myself I find these posts tedious at best. They inherently question a referee's integrity purely on some biased judgement from a previous match. Without referees, there is no football and people forget that. Further to that, those who criticise regularly are not willing to put themselves in the middle.
When I was 15, in my first few months as a referee, I was severely abused for no apparent reason. Having refereed East Coast Juniors v a team from Newark I was labelled a tos*er.
The game was typical of kids football one team - in this case the home team ECJ - won at a canter and the visitors lost (in this case the team from Newark) and each side were 'happy' and disappointed' with the referees performance for basically pathetic reason. Neither had judged my performance on it's actual merits. As per usual.
As was the case at Wainfleet Road, the changing rooms had been locked wjislt the game was on for reasons of potential theft and after the match there was somesort of delay regarding the reopening of the dressing rooms. While this went on, a man and his 5/6 year old daughter (it had been an U9s game) of the Newark side emerged through the crowd. Having seen me he looked at his daughter and pointed at me : "that's a tos**r, you've never seen one before but's that what they look like". He took one last look at me and left, scuttling back through the crowd of people. Parents from both sides saw the incident and said nothing.
It was, now I am 30, a truly despicable thing to do to a young referee who enjoys football and was simply refereeing as a way to stay in the game. I am sure worse has happened and it makes these type of posts all the more deplorable. The referee who is appointed is the referee and that is that. Ultimately, he is a fan who has had more success than us at staying in the game and deserves credit for taking such terrible abuse rather than being written off before a ball has even been kicked. Just like our players a referee can have a bad day at he office and he is ultimately judged on his overall performances at this level, not just one, so rather than slate him before a ball has been kicked, take a moment to thank people like him who turned up at your Sunday league game on the long road to make it to this level.
Football is for everyone.
Up the the Mighty Mariners.
There was nothing biased about sending off Nielsen, he copulated up pure and simple, that could have cost us a place in the play-off final and an earlier return to the Football League. And I bet the twit didn't have the guts to ring up and apologise. |
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| Bigdog |
| February 10, 2017, 10:13pm |
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Kevin Johnson.
Was ref for Colchester earlier in the season, but more noted for being the ref in the 2nd leg against Gateshead when sending neilson off for having his foot within 6 inches of an opposition player.
Excellent.
Missed an absolutely blatant two handed push on Omar as he was about to head the ball into the net from a couple of yards out |
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| RichMariner |
| February 11, 2017, 1:53am |
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I absolutely get the case for referees. They put up with a lot of abuse - much of it is totally undeserved, or just over the top.
They're human, not robots, and are therefore just as prone as the next person to have a bad day at the office.
I guess what makes us fans struggle to sympathise with their plight, more than we do with players or managers, comes down to accountability.
When they make a mistake, you never ever see them, or hear them, acknowledge it.
They don't do post-match interviews and they never have to explain themselves - and it's because of this silence fans get the impression that they just go home and forget about it because they don't care that it fooked someone's day/week/season up.
And I know that's not the case - but it's that silence that does it for me.
If the ref had come out and said 'I got that wrong, Scott Neilson didn't deserve the red card I gave him and it was the reaction of Craig Baxter that affected my judgment' then, even though the damage had been done, I think we'd all feel a little differently about refs in the long run.
But of course no one likes admitting they got anything wrong.
And that leads me on to another topic, which is how players have a responsibility to make life easier for refs, instead of diving, overreacting and generally trying to con them into sending other people off.
That plays a part too.
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| golfer |
| February 11, 2017, 6:56am |
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Agree Rich Mariner. In my playing days the only diving was in the swimming pool so the refs job was a lot easier- a foul was a foul and that was it. It seems to me that it is win at all costs. At corners the ref. needs 10 pairs of eyes-everybody, forward or defender, is holding each other and there's always a player who is assigned purely to block the goalkeeper. That's the person who the ref. needs to send off for a start to show he isn't going to be fckd about. If I was a ref. I would send off the first away player who commits a foul to show I mean business-- at Blundell Park  |
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| Mrs Doyle |
| February 11, 2017, 7:27am |
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As a former referee myself I find these posts tedious at best. They inherently question a referee's integrity purely on some biased judgement from a previous match. Without referees, there is no football and people forget that. Further to that, those who criticise regularly are not willing to put themselves in the middle.
When I was 15, in my first few months as a referee, I was severely abused for no apparent reason. Having refereed East Coast Juniors v a team from Newark I was labelled a tos*er.
The game was typical of kids football one team - in this case the home team ECJ - won at a canter and the visitors lost (in this case the team from Newark) and each side were 'happy' and disappointed' with the referees performance for basically pathetic reason. Neither had judged my performance on it's actual merits. As per usual.
As was the case at Wainfleet Road, the changing rooms had been locked wjislt the game was on for reasons of potential theft and after the match there was somesort of delay regarding the reopening of the dressing rooms. While this went on, a man and his 5/6 year old daughter (it had been an U9s game) of the Newark side emerged through the crowd. Having seen me he looked at his daughter and pointed at me : "that's a tos**r, you've never seen one before but's that what they look like". He took one last look at me and left, scuttling back through the crowd of people. Parents from both sides saw the incident and said nothing.
It was, now I am 30, a truly despicable thing to do to a young referee who enjoys football and was simply refereeing as a way to stay in the game. I am sure worse has happened and it makes these type of posts all the more deplorable. The referee who is appointed is the referee and that is that. Ultimately, he is a fan who has had more success than us at staying in the game and deserves credit for taking such terrible abuse rather than being written off before a ball has even been kicked. Just like our players a referee can have a bad day at he office and he is ultimately judged on his overall performances at this level, not just one, so rather than slate him before a ball has been kicked, take a moment to thank people like him who turned up at your Sunday league game on the long road to make it to this level.
Football is for everyone.
Up the the Mighty Mariners.
All very admirable and abuse is bad especially at lower levels but when a Ref such as the one at Wembley v Bristol Rovers can decide to ignore the rules for "spoiling the spectacle." reasons his own words then they will get no respect. |
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| lee65 |
| February 11, 2017, 12:19pm |
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Missed an absolutely blatant two handed push on Omar as he was about to head the ball into the net from a couple of yards out
To be fair at Colchester, he also missed send Boyce off for a second bookable offence after about 30 mins, before we subbed him  |
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| chaos33 |
| February 11, 2017, 12:49pm |
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Missed an absolutely blatant two handed push on Omar as he was about to head the ball into the net from a couple of yards out
I remember that. It was an absolutely clear penalty. |
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| buckstown |
| February 11, 2017, 1:30pm |
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It never fails to amaze me when watching reply after reply, how often football referees and cricket umpires get it right, despite only have one chance and the ball travelling at about 80mph
At some point football will have to embrace technology to get the few wrongs corrected and I suspect it will be entertaining like it is in rugby etc.
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| golfer |
| February 11, 2017, 1:53pm |
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Have all lady referees--women never get anything wrong--ask them |
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