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Here's a potential manager that would excite me.
Ex town player, great playing history mainly at league 1 or higher, has done a brilliant job of the u21's at Sunderland. Also been around the first team working under some impressive names, allardyce, di canio, moyes. Sure he's learnt a thing or two!
Lots of rave reviews about his work at Sunderland and even mentioned about him taking over their!
Probably looking to take his first management role and with his previous links to town, surely this would be a great move for both sides. With an experienced assistant id be fully behind this
Currently 3rd favourite with the bookies.
Thoughts?
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Excite me? No
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Only left town for an offer he couldn't refuse from the black cats. Was very well thought of here working with the youth team. We could do much worse in my opinion.
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We cannot take a risk with our League status by appointing a manager with no managerial experience.
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Yes from me, He could be the next Buckley, Play attractive footy and successful imo. BUT Will he want a fitness coach ?
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We cannot take a risk with our League status by appointing a manager with no managerial experience.
What about giving Ryan Giggs a bell. He's loaded so wouldn't break the bank. It would give him a bit of experience and after a couple of years let Salford go and buy a proper team. Let's do something exciting for once and take a chance. We would get players wanting to play for us instead of journeymen as of late.
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I have a lot of admiration for Robbie Stockdale as a player and as a youth coach but he has never been a first team manager and we do not have time or money to let him learn how to do it at GTFC. There's a world of difference between telling young lads what to do and telling grown men, experienced players, how to play. He could be brilliant or he could be another Woods or Groves and we cannot afford the risk.
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What about giving Ryan Giggs a bell. He's loaded so wouldn't break the bank. It would give him a bit of experience and after a couple of years let Salford go and buy a proper team. Let's do something exciting for once and take a chance. We would get players wanting to play for us instead of journeymen as of late.
The name Newell rings a bell there .......
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Why do we seem so preoccupied with people that have previously been here in one capacity or another.
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A more realistic first step into management, making a presumption that's what he wants, would be as an assistant. Great coach and great guy.
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I have a lot of admiration for Robbie Stockdale as a player and as a youth coach but he has never been a first team manager and we do not have time or money to let him learn how to do it at GTFC. There's a world of difference between telling young lads what to do and telling grown men, experienced players, how to play. He could be brilliant or he could be another Woods or Groves and we cannot afford the risk.
Not meant at you in-particularly RRFC but surely everyone is a gamble? So far today I have read that Adkins shouldnt be appointed because he failed in his last two jobs, so has virtually everybody who has ever managed. The most successful managers in the world got there first job somewhere, they were all inexperienced at one stage. There is no right or wrong. Experienced failure or untried Youth/Reserve coach? At least Robbie Stockdale has experience as a first team coach and is likely to be more hungry than some mentioned. His wife loved her time in Cleethorpes Martin Gray is someone worth serious consideration IMO
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Why do we seem so preoccupied with people that have previously been here in one capacity or another.
do agree, but i think stockdale's record and experience does set him apart a little. certainly appeals more than knill or wilcox
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I'd be happy with this. As said above definitely more inspiring than the likes of a man sacked for being in a league 2 relegation dogfight. Everyone's a gamble. A proven boss will probably have failed in his last job, an unproven one will be, well, unproven. Neal Ardley''s done alright at Wimbledon for example.
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Not meant at you in-particularly RRFC but surely everyone is a gamble?
So far today I have read that Adkins shouldnt be appointed because he failed in his last two jobs, so has virtually everybody who has ever managed.
The most successful managers in the world got there first job somewhere, they were all inexperienced at one stage.
There is no right or wrong. Experienced failure or untried Youth/Reserve coach?
At least Robbie Stockdale has experience as a first team coach and is likely to be more hungry than some mentioned. His wife loved her time in Cleethorpes
Martin Gray is someone worth serious consideration IMO
You are right, every appointment is a gamble. Paddy Hamilton took a huge gamble when he appointed Laurie McMenemy after he was sacked by Doncaster. Everyone thought Paddy was mad but look what happened. Incidentally McMenemy was not a great coach as he admits himself, he was a manager and motivator and he employed other people to do the coaching stuff. I'm not against Robbie Stockdale as a coach but you have to see 2 things here Cloudy - that success with kids is not a guarantee of success with blokes. Success on the training ground is not a guarantee of success on the bench. If they were, Woods and Watkiss would be running Chelsea and Southgate would be in charge of Spain at the WC. Adkins should be considered for his successes not his failures, but what rules him out is the Championship level money he would want. The same might apply to Robbins but who knows? For my money we would be best served by someone who has sat in the hot seat before and knows what's what about first team management.
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Makes you wonder how much a premiership team like Sunderland would pay a Sunderland first team coach, maybe more than a League Two manager?
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Well , We have had the pleasure of RS & PH as a double act And then just PH ... now we well may have a RS again !! Who could his assistant be, needs to have PH as initials . This move could well save the club additional tracksuit / training gear costs as they will already have RS & PH left over lol 😂 UTM
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We cannot take a risk with our League status by appointing a manager with no managerial experience.
No Ryan Giggs then? (well every other sodomist has been mentioned!)
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Re Martin Gray from Darlo; Well, we did get Stuart Gray, as player, many years ago. He turned out ok. Just saying like
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Why do we seem so preoccupied with people that have previously been here in one capacity or another.
I find it hilarious too!
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Re Martin Gray from Darlo; Well, we did get Stuart Gray, as player, many years ago. He turned out ok. Just saying like
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It's familiarity, we know them, what they are about, how they operate. Also they know Grimsby Town, the fans the area, so they know what they are getting in to.
I'm not saying we SHOULD get an ex player/manager, but we shouldn't exclude them just because they are ex's.
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Why do we seem so preoccupied with people that have previously been here in one capacity or another.
Sadly some Town fans can't get away from those thoughts!
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Pendant alert!!
Stewart Gray
Pedant alert!! Nice necklace
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Why do we seem so preoccupied with people that have previously been here in one capacity or another.
Because we have traditionally struggled to attract players, managers alike to this neck of the woods then trying to bring back someone who is familiar with the area might be half the battle.
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Pedant alert!! Nice necklace
Stewart Gray was so good I named my son after him. The Stewart part that is as I am not called Gray
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Stewart Gray was so good I named my son after him. The Stewart part that is as I am not called Gray
He could play anywhere across the back and midfield as well. Next to Bobby C he was also the hardest player I ever saw in a Town team.
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My last memory of Stuart Gray was him punching somebody in a night club who was calling him a male masturbator lol
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My last memory of Stuart Gray was him punching somebody in a night club who was calling him a male masturbator lol
When you regained consciousness had he gone ?
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I never could fathom Giggs, he regularly fooked all of Wales by feigning injury, never objected to newspaper speculation. Yet when he fooked Miss Wales he tried to gag all of the British press.
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I'd rather have an ambitious , ex top level player who has been prepared to drop down a few levels to gain experience than some has been manager who's doing the rounds through the lower divs . Been coached at the top level and gained plenty of contacts no doubt . Ffs he only played for town for 1 injury plagued year so you can hardly put him down as ex town really .
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I'd rather have an ambitious , ex top level player who has been prepared to drop down a few levels to gain experience than some has been manager who's doing the rounds through the lower divs . Been coached at the top level and gained plenty of contacts no doubt . Ffs he only played for town for 1 injury plagued year so you can hardly put him down as ex town really .
Was a good player though. Funniest thing I ever saw from a town game was one of the final games of the season where he was forced to play left back. He was the most right footed player you'll meet and his refusal to kick the ball with his left was hilarious to watch.
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My last memory of Stuart Gray was him punching somebody in a night club who was calling him a male masturbator lol
Pedant or pendant - its Stewart.
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I never could fathom Giggs, he regularly fooked all of Wales by feigning injury, never objected to newspaper speculation. Yet when he fooked Miss Wales he tried to gag all of the British press.
that was more to do with Fergie than Giggs, F' called the shots then especially as at the time Wales were absolute dire,his thinking was along the lines of, why have him waste his energy among a poor team and turn up wasted for the MU league games, bit like one and a half player team Wales at the moment
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I struggle with this Red Cross thing, is it a tool for the mute or a 'you slagged off my bessy mate so I'm gonna Red Cross everything you put'. Either way, you're pathetic little no marks.
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I wouldn't mind Stockdale if he applied and came across well in interview. As long as someone demonstrates they have a plan with what to do with our football club and have some evidence that they can put it into practice then that's got to be better than one of the lower league managers like Knill or Wilcox. Ideally I'd go for someone with success in the past like Adkins or Evans but that's probably unlikely. Next up I wouldn't mind getting someone from lower down who is hungry and had success in the National League or a player who is willing to come down to L2 to start on their way in management after being a successful coach. I played in the chairman's challenge against Stockdale many years ago and he was the nicest bloke going, not that that necessarily makes him a good manager.
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Pedant or pendant - its Stewart.
FFS Do one you little mug.
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When you regained consciousness had he gone ?
lol ever thought about going on stage.......................................... think again.
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If he can't manage on his dole money his expectations might have changed. He could always go back on the dole after his 6 months contract expired
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I struggle with this Red Cross thing, is it a tool for the mute or a 'you slagged off my bessy mate so I'm gonna Red Cross everything you put'. Either way, you're pathetic little no marks.
Obviously you haven't joined the establishment, you can't put what you want on here.--you'll learn. Just forget red x's if you don't you will not be able to air your OWN views . It's a sort of brainwashing to get you to say what they want. You watch --another load of red x's to prove my point.
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]I'd rather have an ambitious , ex top level player who has been prepared to drop down a few levels to gain experience [/b]than some has been manager who's doing the rounds through the lower divs . Been coached at the top level and gained plenty of contacts no doubt . Ffs he only played for town for 1 injury plagued year so you can hardly put him down as ex town really .
What , like Mike Lyons or Brian Laws for example. They turned out well for us , didn't they?
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What , like Mike Lyons or Brian Laws for example. They turned out well for us , didn't they?
Mike Lyons dropped down one league so did Laws
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Wasn't Laws the manager when we were top of the Championship - when we also beat Germany 5-1?
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Wasn't Laws the manager when we were top of the Championship - when we also beat Germany 5-1?
that was lennie lawrence; hard to believe isn't it? same lennie who was in charge for the anfield victory. much as laws is maligned the standard of football at times under him was the best i ever saw; even better than buckley's. obviously that had a lot to do with ivano but some of the home game dispalys were stunning
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that was lennie lawrence; hard to believe isn't it? same lennie who was in charge for the anfield victory. much as laws is maligned the standard of football at times under him was the best i ever saw; even better than buckley's. obviously that had a lot to do with ivano but some of the home game dispalys were stunning
THIS.Although Laws inherited a good side it must be said then put his own stamp on it I especially liked his time here for the tackle he put in on Dave Gilbert vs WBA
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Wasn't Laws the manager when we also beat Germany 5-1?
Bloody hell I missed that - what was the Town team?
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Am I right in saying that fenty made some recent complimentary comments about stock dale? The further we get into this the worse the names seem to get mentioned.adkins and Cowley who were mentioned early on seem to have gone by the by, so we get to some truly frightening names , Robbins, peschisolido, Greene etc Given this and the wages on offer I have to say that cox, redfearn and stock dale would be the best potential successors imho
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Redfearn, Stockdale and Cox would be interesting candidates
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A little bird told me this afternoon that Robbie Stockdale had applied for the job.
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Stockdale would be a gamble but we are in a position where we can take one. He could be brilliant, you'd hope he's aquired an eclectic range of skills from Di Canio, Advocaat, Moyes, Allardyce and Poyet. He's obviously a decent coach, he brought Duncan Watmore through and he's been there for a long period. There's only one way to find out what his man management skills, transfer shrewdness, tactical nous is like. I'd certainly approve.
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If we were to hire Robbie I'd much prefer him to be Assistant.
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If we were to hire Robbie I'd much prefer him to be Assistant.
To who exactly? The further we go the worse the names get. Paul peschisolido ? Ffs!
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I know!
Dunno really - just don't see it as a good idea to make RS manager based on his lack of experience. I think he should kind of serve an apprenticeship as an assistant first under someone good (and experienced). As for who that is......haven't really formed any preferences yet. I know more about who I don't want than who I do.
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I think we've got to be realistic chaos, although were an attractive option the geography and the wage packet means we are scratching around people who have some big negatives against them. The experienced names mentioned haven't just failed once they have failed 2,3 or 4 times. The new names are untested by their very nature. Stock dale does actually have a lot more positives than negatives, knows the club, knows the lower leagues, an impressive record of success with Sunderland under21s and has worked under and with some very good managers. He does have some caretaker experience in the hot seat. The fact that Sunderland are by the worst premiershite team but he managed their under 21s to fourth place is pretty impressive. He is also going to know the premiership youngsters and cast offs like the back of his hand and this is going to be a major area for recruitment for us in the future
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Yeah really good points. He does have great potential.
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I'd be happy with Stockdale i think......just about....maybe.....i dunno.
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Kylie Minogue?
Has she been a youth team manager?
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If we were to hire Robbie I'd much prefer him to be Assistant.
Isn't he an assistant/1st team coach to Moyes in the Premier League at present? Why would he therefore take an assistant job in Lge 2. If he has applied and feels he is ready I can see him making the short list
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Fair enough
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Kylie Minogue?
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Kylie Minogue?
I thought the same thing, now I just can't get her out of my head
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Has she been a youth team manager?
She had a big part to play in my youth development if that counts?
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With Stockdale it's better the devil you know
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She had a big part to play in my youth development if that counts?
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It'd be a positive appointment for me. They're all a gamble but better someone young and promising than the serial failures we have had mentioned on here. Some of the names have made me cringe Robins, Knill, Woodhouse and Wilcox would all be a bit depressing.
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I know!
Dunno really - just don't see it as a good idea to make RS manager based on his lack of experience. I think he should kind of serve an apprenticeship as an assistant first under someone good (and experienced). As for who that is......haven't really formed any preferences yet. I know more about who I don't want than who I do.
I would say that he has as much if not more experience with better coaches and players than Hurst ever did, and he was`nt bad
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A little bird told me this afternoon that Robbie Stockdale had applied for the job.
Can't say for definite.
Top tip: Don't believe everything little birds tell you.
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It'd be a positive appointment for me. They're all a gamble but better someone young and promising than the serial failures we have had mentioned on here. Some of the names have made me cringe Robins, Knill, Woodhouse and Wilcox would all be a bit depressing.
Yep. Agree completely.
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I think he is worth a gamble.
He knows the club and the set up here, he's proved himself to be an excellent coach, yes I know a coach and manager isn't the same but it's a good starting point, and he wouldn't be a coach at a premiership team if he didn't have knowledge, and he's still only 36 so he's still young enough to develop further.
I think I would gamble on him
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I'd be happy with Stockdale, providing he does a good job. If he was going to do a bad job, I wouldn't want him.
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With Stockdale it's better the devil you know
We DON'T actually know him much at all. Although I'm not normally a fan of hiring ex-players as managers, the injury-plagued full back who spent a season with us bears no resemblance whatever to the qualified and highly competent coach now operating at a premier league club! We could do a hell of a lot worse than get this bloke on board.
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I have given this managers job some thought and acting on due diligence (Fenty phrase). My preferred choice would be Adkins but I don't think he will come so I think Robbie Stockdale could just be the man to take us forward to the next level. (Fenty phrase)
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I have given this managers job some thought and acting on due diligence (Fenty phrase). My preferred choice would be Adkins but I don't think he will come so I think Robbie Stockdale could just be the man to take us forward to the next level. (Fenty phrase)
You want him " in the building" before " the tide goes out".
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You want him " in the building" before " the tide goes out".
So, for clarification, as we were promoted is the tide fully in or on the way in?
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For me, the first and foremost consideration has to be: we don't get relegated back to the dreaded Conference.
Since PH has assembled a squad capable of holding its own in League 2, that suggests getting a manager willing to work with the squad he's got. Not some "I've been managing for 20 years...." type with fixed notions on the players he wants. From what I read here (I know nothing!) Robbie Stockdale probably fits the bill on that one.
The advantage of having an ex-player coming in is that they are aware of (how shall I put this?)....the Grimsby fan mentality. Hurst never came to terms with it IMO.
As has been pointed out, any appointment is a gamble. I'm old enough to remember Lawrie McMenemy being given the job - to which the general reaction was "Who - and he hasn't played the game...!?".
I'd have thought Stockdale warrants serious consideration, and if there's a clearly better applicant we'd be well fortunate.
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Think I'm sold on Robbie now, window slams shut
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What about Neil Ruddock? hes skint apparently so could be a acheivable target
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So, for clarification, as we were promoted is the tide fully in or on the way in?
Ebbed to low water, turned and is in flow again, but still out near Haile Sands fort.
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I must say, I'm warming to the idea of Stockdale taking charge.
I think it represents more of a gamble than appointing someone who has managerial experience (even if they haven't got a promotion on their CV), but we need someone young, with fresh ideas, who can take us forward with his career.
We don't want to be gambling, of course, but when I think of the day Bournemouth appointed un-tried and un-tested Eddie Howe in a situation far more desperate than ours at present, it makes me realise there are good, young managers out there who can make a difference.
Also, it feels like our youth players have been neglected since we were last in the league, and I reckon Stockdale will have a strong emphasis on using the talent we already have, which would be nice to see.
Put it this way - if he was announced as our next manager, I wouldn't be gutted (which is exactly how I'd feel if someone like Wilcox got the job).
Gamble? Yes - but a calculated one (if such a thing exists).
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Put it this way - if he was announced as our next manager, I wouldn't be gutted (which is exactly how I'd feel if someone like Wilcox got the job)
my thoughts exactly
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Seems the more people are thinking about his potential attributes the more they are in favour. I did mention his name a while ago and got shot down.
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Seems the more people are thinking about his potential attributes the more they are in favour. I did mention his name a while ago and got shot down.
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We should not not appoint someone with previous GTFC connections, just because they have them.
I could accept Robbie Stockdale as our next manager.
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Can everyone get out of their heads that we're going to be in a promotion race. We need significantly more investment and I for don't have a million quid lying around waiting to be spent. We need better players, a good set of defenders so so we can play cavalier football but remain solid at the back and then the conditioning coach to impress fitness and accelerate injury recover. Plus an attacking coach because if Stockdale does come in we've only got defenders on the coaching staff as we did previously.
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Can everyone get out of their heads that we're going to be in a promotion race. We need significantly more investment and I for don't have a million quid lying around waiting to be spent. We need better players, a good set of defenders so so we can play cavalier football but remain solid at the back and then the conditioning coach to impress fitness and accelerate injury recover. Plus an attacking coach because if Stockdale does come in we've only got defenders on the coaching staff as we did previously.
If you needed a million quid to make this squad capable of promotion you'd be a pretty useless manager. We've got some good defenders, a decent goalkeeper, we've got some good midfielders (Comley and McAllister are very good for this level), we've got pace in the side and we've got a striker who given the service is lethal. If this squad had a manager with more tactical nous than Hurst, there is no reason it couldn't have a crack at the play offs. Yes it could do with improving in some areas but Accrington are 7th and they've played Scott Brown nearly every game, he wouldn't get in our team
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If you needed a million quid to make this squad capable of promotion you'd be a pretty useless manager. We've got some good defenders, a decent goalkeeper, we've got some good midfielders (Comley and McAllister are very good for this level), we've got pace in the side and we've got a striker who given the service is lethal. If this squad had a manager with more tactical nous than Hurst, there is no reason it couldn't have a crack at the play offs. Yes it could do with improving in some areas but Accrington are 7th and they've played Scott Brown nearly every game, he wouldn't get in our team
And were agonisingly close to automatic promotion last season. If they can get there, i'm sure we can with a good manager. Why should we get promotion out of our heads Mariner 09. After all, the whole point of football is to beat everyone else and go up the divisions. Not much point to it otherwise.
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Can everyone get out of their heads that we're going to be in a promotion race. We need significantly more investment and I for don't have a million quid lying around waiting to be spent. We need better players, a good set of defenders so so we can play cavalier football but remain solid at the back and then the conditioning coach to impress fitness and accelerate injury recover. Plus an attacking coach because if Stockdale does come in we've only got defenders on the coaching staff as we did previously.
Being a defender means we won't play attacking football? WHAT?!? Eddie Howe, pochetinno, guardiola were all defensive players? And we need a conditioning coach? Possibly yes, but PLEASE don't base all of your thoughts and opinions on a comment Paul hurst made 6 weeks ago
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I have been told by a reliable source that Groves will get the job with Macca coming back home as his `No 2. News will come out on Monday,
If its wrong don't blame me I was sworn to secrecy ,
OOPS!!!!!!!
Heard from whom? Love a rumour when everyone thinks they're in the know but haven't got the balls to post it on here.
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Can everyone get out of their heads that we're going to be in a promotion race. We need significantly more investment and I for don't have a million quid lying around waiting to be spent. We need better players, a good set of defenders so so we can play cavalier football but remain solid at the back and then the conditioning coach to impress fitness and accelerate injury recover. Plus an attacking coach because if Stockdale does come in we've only got defenders on the coaching staff as we did previously.
Oooh.....get you telling people what to think! You know what? It's a wide open division. Wide open, and a bit crackers. Everybody beatable on their day, and even though Plymouth, Carlisle, Portsmouth, Luton, Doncaster look like contenders, they've all had some unpredictable results. We've already beaten Luton on their own ground, and it was no fluke. Look no further than the fact that, with our fluctuating results and sh1tty home record, we can be 8th and outside the play offs on goal difference only. Try picking winners in L2 on a bet every week - consider every game and see how accurate you can predict more than one or two results. It's tough. I think most teams are vulnerable in some aspect, and, on that basis, I think we have every chance of being feasible play off contenders, particularly given the fact that it's a top 7 game with four going up. So yeah....as Ginny says...I think it's fine to think of us as contenders if the likes of Accrington Stanley can do it. Carry on... UTM.
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Heard from whom? Love a rumour when everyone thinks they're in the know but haven't got the balls to post it on here.
I was told by a family member who did not actually say do not repeat he just said keep his name off the statement, He knows Macca, it could be true or it could be balderdash . I am not sure if most fans will welcome that appointment, I know some will. I do not feel if I am in the know just passing on what I was told,
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They were both legends as players and that's how I'd like it to stay. I don't favour them as mangers and hope this is hogwash.
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I have been told by a reliable source that Groves will get the job with Macca coming back home as his `No 2. News will come out on Monday,
If its wrong don't blame me I was sworn to secrecy ,
OOPS!!!!!!!
Pete, watch out for the bloke with selling "magic beans" when you take your mothers cow to market this weekend..........
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To who exactly? The further we go the worse the names get. Paul peschisolido ? Ffs!
Remember him being sent off for Fulham in playoffs at BP.
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People are saying Adkins is an unrealistic target yet apparently Stockdale isn't! Why would he leave a very well paid job as a first team coach in the Premier League to come to us in League 2? He'd have to take a big pay-cut for starters.
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I was told by a family member who did not actually say do not repeat he just said keep his name off the statement,
He knows Macca, it could be true or it could be balderdash .
I am not sure if most fans will welcome that appointment,
I know some will.
I do not feel if I am in the know just passing on what I was told,
I asked my girlfriends cat who towns next manager would be and he said " Meow ". Now I've searched the Internet and can't find any manager available or otherwise with that name so do I believe him?
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I asked my girlfriends cat who towns next manager would be and he said " Meow ". Now I've searched the Internet and can't find any manager available or otherwise with that name so do I believe him?
I think your girlfriends cat has got it all wrong ,it's the next chairman it named not manager. ....
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I asked my girlfriends cat who towns next manager would be and he said " Meow ". Now I've searched the Internet and can't find any manager available or otherwise with that name so do I believe him?
The cat thought you asked could he manage Town ? And he actually said 'Me, How ? '😄
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People are saying Adkins is an unrealistic target yet apparently Stockdale isn't! Why would he leave a very well paid job as a first team coach in the Premier League to come to us in League 2? He'd have to take a big pay-cut for starters.
Maybe because he knows that Moyes is on his way out and the new man will want his own staff?
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Maybe because he knows that Moyes is on his way out and the new man will want his own staff?
He was there before Moyes and will probably be there after. He was part of Big Sam's team before he took the England job so I don't see any reason for Allardyce not to keep him if he replaces Moyes. If he were to get the boot he'd have a nice payoff to sit on whilst waiting for his next job.
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People are saying Adkins is an unrealistic target yet apparently Stockdale isn't! Why would he leave a very well paid job as a first team coach in the Premier League to come to us in League 2? He'd have to take a big pay-cut for starters.
Depends if he wants a crack at management or would rather just stay as first team coach/number 2. If he does want to try his hand at management surely money won't be at the front of his mind and this would realistically be the level he'd have to start at. Can't see many clubs higher than this taking a chance. Also he knows the club well from his past here so could appreciate the potential the club has. We could do much worse IMO, would rather him than the likes of Wilcox, Knill etc...
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He was there before Moyes and will probably be there after. He was part of Big Sam's team before he took the England job so I don't see any reason for Allardyce not to keep him if he replaces Moyes. If he were to get the boot he'd have a nice payoff to sit on whilst waiting for his next job.
He was development coach previously, a safe job. He knows the step up is progression but with less security. His previous development job has gone to my mate Andy Welsh. Robbie IS interested
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I think Robbie has got to be one of the more potentially exciting options. I was also wondering about Gary Caldwell, and if he would be interested.
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The Stockdale shout seems to be gathering momentum. His name was mentioned a few times on RH today and i think he is a contender. No info, just a feeling.
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No to groves No to macca No to stockdale
I will tell you why firstly groves was an excellent player and one of our best but hasn't translated this into management when he has been a manager here or elsewere so why would he all of a sudden be what we need or want.
Macca was again one of our best ever players and been an assistant at harrogate in the national north , not held a job higher up and in no way has the experience to be an assistant in league football at this time.
Robbie stockdale has been sunderland youth coach i think it is and held the caretaker job for a few games, not held as high regard as a player for me but very likeable guy, he has no experience in league football and as we have just got promoted this season is a very important one and not one to gamble with, imo we just cant afford to give the job to a guy who has done well in young players as its a different game altogether, just look at neil woods , robbie needs a job in non league like say barrow or gateshead first like paul hurst did to make the transistion as its that experience you need with first team football.
I just dont like the idea of any of them three, and completely disagree with chris parker on the radio yesterday who wants robbie stockdale as manager for some reason.
My personal opinion but i of course respect other peoples opinion who would like him here.
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I don't want Stockdale and although he might be interested he would probably have to take a pay cut and that coupled with mixed messages regarding fenty ( fitness coach etc) I think he would only come if the next Sunderland manager demands a complete clear out . I'm edging towards bignot but his mrs plays for arsenal and I assume he's Birmingham area now ,so can't imagine him moving to north east Linc's or would he ??
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Stockdale is NOT 'just a youth team coach', he is coaching the first team and has done so for some time.
Does it have to be someone who has managed previously?
Personally would be horrified by Knill Wilcox or Foyle If we cannot get Adkins or even Evans then much rather go for Stockdale or Bignot and certainly not McDermott, Groves or Woodhouse.
At the end of the day we will have to wait and see. Easy to say who you don't want but who do you want?
Whoever it is I guess we will just have to put up with the terrible, cheap option jibes
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Guy at Luton seems to be doing ok with very little experience, as I have said before there are no guarantees whoever we appoint and I think given Stockdale's age, experience and knowledge of our club are all plus factors.
End of the day hard to comment without knowing who has applied. Hopefully we will all know more later this week
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He was development coach previously, a safe job. He knows the step up is progression but with less security. His previous development job has gone to my mate Andy Welsh.
Robbie IS interested
Source?sauce? Sorss?
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Stockdale is NOT 'just a youth team coach', he is coaching the first team and has done so for some time.
Does it have to be someone who has managed previously?
Personally would be horrified by Knill Wilcox or Foyle If we cannot get Adkins or even Evans then much rather go for Stockdale or Bignot and certainly not McDermott, Groves or Woodhouse.
At the end of the day we will have to wait and see. Easy to say who you don't want but who do you want?
Whoever it is I guess we will just have to put up with the terrible, cheap option jibes
While we are losing players to those giants of the north east Hartlepool and losing a manager to that sleeping Shropshire giant Shrewsbury .. erm yeh the cheap vibes will keep coming
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He would be a really good appointment, good coach, top bloke and excellent knowledge of young players. He will have excellent contacts in the game. He's certainly one of the more interesting of the realistic targets.
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He would be a really good appointment, good coach, top bloke and excellent knowledge of young players. He will have excellent contacts in the game. He's certainly one of the more interesting of the realistic targets.
Possibly..............But have you seen Sunderland lately they are pony and he is their coach so some of that must sit at his door?
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I hope whoever we get isn't a dour Yorkshireman or a dour Scotsman as some would say.
Oh ! And he knows a little bit about coaching other than how to set up a team that is "hard to break down". I've seen little evidence of the strikers brought in over the last few years having improved their game whilst with us.
Bogle, for one is someone who could be developed by the right coaching which would not have been available to him under the previous manager. Hopefully for Omar, and others, will get their chance.
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One of two for me now Stockdale or Bignot
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One of two for me now Stockdale or Bignot
can't be totally sure of the reliability of the source but hear that adkins and cox may also be in the mix
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If we do appoint Knill or Wilcox I feel sorry for them. Would only take a few bad results early on and the fans would be on there case and the boards very quickly. Either of these 2 would see the fans morale drop severely.
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can't be totally sure of the reliability of the source but hear that adkins and cox may also be in the mix
Thats blown me out of the water then
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can't be totally sure of the reliability of the source but hear that adkins and cox may also be in the mix
Cox not a bad shout tbh.
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Thats blown me out of the water then
why? think that's a very interesting shortlist, wouldn't be displeased with any of those.the more i read about bignot and his record the more he appeals to me
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why? think that's a very interesting shortlist, wouldn't be displeased with any of those.the more i read about bignot and his record the more he appeals to me
Yeh! you sort of know that someone who is used to winning and has an eye for decent players around our required standard would struggle to suddenly fail ----who knows just a hunch
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if Bournemouth didn't take a chance on Howe, they'd be playing at Blundell Park this season.
Its all pure guesswork and luck.
Lets hope its our turn next.
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Stockdale is NOT 'just a youth team coach', he is coaching the first team and has done so for some time.
This is not an anti-Robbie Stockdale comment (I think he would be one of the better suggested options) but I don't think that the role of 'first team coach' at Sunderland is anything to put on your CV bearing their current league position.
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Noticed Dave jones has moved sharply in betting tonight someone's probably had 50p each way
Quite significant if the board are looking for experience.
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"Experience" of what though? It's a bit meaningless, you can use it to justify any appointment - "Robbie has great experience of coaching ... Curtis has great experience of boxing". I mean, they're hardly going to say they're looking for an inexperienced manager, are they?
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Quite significant if the board are looking for experience.
He has some good experience with kids doesn't he?
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He has some good experience with kids doesn't he?
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The argument regarding experience and whether it's needed when hiring a manager will always one that divides opinion.
Personally I don't think this team is one that needs an 'experienced' manager at the helm. It's not a team that is struggling and needs whole sale changes. Personality and somebody is going to get the best out of the players we already have with a few minor changes is more important then anything.
Stockdale is somebody I personally would welcome. Robbie is a very well respected within the game and at Grimsby Town. He has experience of bringing on youth players but also working with Premier League players. Also he played with Curtis Woodhouse at Hull, maybe that's a team that could work together?
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And to add to youngys post there is a lot of experience support and advice available to a young boss. Watkins,Moore, Davies, Collins, Buckley, Warrington etc could all be helpful
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He has some good experience with kids doesn't he?
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Don't forget Robbie has a 50% win ratio as joint caretaker manager of GTFC, he and Dave Moore pointed joint caretaker managers when Neil Woods was sacked
played 4 won 2 drew 1 lost 1 win% 50
Also Robbie has experience coaching Sunderlands first team
Stockdale was handed the role of acting head coach of the first team on 6 October 2015 after manager male private Advocaat left. He was subsequently named as first team coach following the appointment of manager Sam Allardyce.
At one point Sunderland were dead certs to go down, but managed a to stay up.
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