Prices for Post Vale replay!

The OS say NORMAL prices apply for the replay, with Children just £1.

Vale reduced their prices from £20.50 / £15 / £9 to £10 / £5 / £1.

So why are we not reducing ours? Who is making the decisions?

Think this is one game where reduced admission will pay off with a bigger crowd. Perhaps they are waiting to see who we draw in the next round, or if we are going to be on TV?

Same prices as vale would have been nice meeooowww

A chance to drum up some atmosphere & enthusiasm and the club chucks it away.

Many will now watch Champs League on telly & stay at home.

Nice one town, I'm saving even more by not going.

It's all about not devaluing the product...

I'll be there no matter what the price, its only a few quid difference anyway.

Quoted from Super Clive

I'll be there no matter what the price, its only a few quid difference anyway.

agree.

Another pi$$ poor idea by Town but theyll get away with it by blaming the supporters not turning up as they always do and not realise why they havent in the 1st place.

Ill just climb in anyway

Quoted from the Grimbarian

Another pi$$ poor idea by Town but theyll get away with it by blaming the supporters not turning up as they always do and not realise why they havent in the 1st place.

Or put the prices down and lose more money than we would have done.

Cant make it either way so not fussed !!
However would have gone whether normal price or not if i was able to.
Why do people feel they are owed something by the club?  Has nobody been paying attention to the financial announcements ?

The club have probably thought it through, weighed up other competition on the night which there are very little floating numbers on, they are also losing out on TV money of their own that week by shifting the Kettering game so would an offer add 30-50% more on the probable gate to make it viable?
Also they probably feel Port Vale will bring whatever they will bring regardless of price, hardly an exciting night out for them is it, so only their hard core away following who will travel no matter what we charge.

Now........ if the club were really canny what they could have done from the off is offer a ticket stub carrot scenario, a big round three draw ticket requires a previous round ticket stub, first come first served one for one basis. Maybe they can still use that if the draw for round two is kind tomorrow.

In the end them who are running the club are showing how incompetent they really are by doing something like this and in the end us the supporters will get the blame for not turning up which is an easy way out for the club.

Quoted from the Grimbarian

Another pi$$ poor idea by Town but theyll get away with it by blaming the supporters not turning up as they always do and not realise why they havent in the 1st place.

No doubt you will be there if we get a championship/Prem club in the 3rd round, Bet you wouldn't even think twice about the price! Mind you that would be nice to have that situation  

it still a pi$$ poor idea Port Vale are as skint as we are and cut the prices so why cant we   So why didnt we push like Bath did with us a few year ago and make Port Vale charge their proper admission prices

Quoted from MarinerJosh

Or put the prices down and lose more money than we would have done.

Er...lose what...extra home game...more revenue??? Charge ST's £6, all others £12 get bums on seats, it's a no-brainer...2000 @ £6, 2000 @ £12 = £36k but 4000 in as opposed to 2500 tops.

Quoted from MarinerJosh

Or put the prices down and lose more money than we would have done.

The money we make from this is extra so we should be trying to get as many bums on seats as we can but as usual Town have messed up

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Er...lose what...extra home game...more revenue??? Charge ST's £6, all others £12 get bums on seats, it's a no-brainer...2000 @ £6, 2000 @ £12 = £36k but 4000 in as opposed to 2500 tops.

As has been previously mentioned GTFC need all the money we can get. Also 2500 tops ? @ the regular price of £18 = £45000 which is £9000 more than the reduced amount you calculated . I know this figure could be reduced with maybe kids going for less but IMO the gate will be higher than 2500. The fans moan like mad because we haven't got past the first round of the FA Cup for ages and now we have a chance then they moan about having to pay the regular price. Clubs like town need good cup runs because of the revenue it generates but this fact seems to go over the heads of a lot of our supporters.

Quoted from the Grimbarian

The money we make from this is extra so we should be trying to get as many bums on seats as we can but as usual Town have messed up

Bums on seats at a discounted rate. Just because we reduce prices doesn't mean we're going to have a higher attendance. We're only playing Port Vale.

Why are people surprised? The clubs attitude towards the dwindling fanbase has stunk for years.  

I'll expect another statement along the lines of "the same old sad illegitimates will turn up regardless of what we charge".

Everyone is well aware that the club is up financial shitcreek without a paddle but this replay could be used as an opportunity to get people in cheap, get people back through the gates, new faces in the ground for future games. The club shouldn't be budgeting for any cup income so whatever comes through the gate is a bonus.

We need long term thinking, not the short sighted backward thinking that has blighted the club for the last god knows how many years.  Port Vale in the first round replay is not a money spinner, it is an opportunity though. Sadly one that we once again will waste.  

Quoted from the Grimbarian

it still a pi$$ poor idea Port Vale are as skint as we are and cut the prices so why cant we   So why didnt we push like Bath did with us a few year ago and make Port Vale charge their proper admission prices

Vale have a cash injection of 8million from a new board-not being spent on the playing side, but for the moment money is not an issue for them re staying afloat.

Perhaps we are not in the 'we are non-league' mindset yet.

I can understand Port Vale reducing their prices because 'we are non-league' opposition - i.e. not very exciting and not much of a challenge.

However, from our point of view, Port Vale are in the football league ... therefore non-league fans are supposed to say 'OOOOHHH!  EXCITING!  LEAGUE OPPOSITION!  WE COULD BE GIANT-KILLERS!' and buy a ticket at full price  to see it.

I'm not sure it's quite going to plan, though.  

We need long term thinking, not the short sighted backward thinking that has blighted the club for the last god knows how many years.  Port Vale in the first round replay is not a money spinner, it is an opportunity though. Sadly one that we once again will waste.  [/quote]

my long term thinking is in 5 years we will be lucky to have a club,we dont have anyone currently involved in our club who can drive us forward imo.

As we only drew yesterday and the fact that the club have to get an agreement from both the FA and Port Vale before they can reduce the ticket price I would think that they have not started the ball rolling yet, Talking to Port vale fans yesterday after the game they think they will bring 100 odd fans, As someone has already said Champions league is also on so if the club reduce prices do you think the gate will be massively bigger, I don’t think so.

Everyone on here have been bitching about the club should run itself better financially and cut its cloth within its means, Well if you mean it expect more decisions like this as the club have to look at the best price to get the best return

Lastly Port Vale may well look at the price knowing they won’t take many and refuse to have the price reduced as they will be reducing their share (50% of profit after expenses and FA payment)

Quoted from diehardmariner

Why are people surprised? The clubs attitude towards the dwindling fanbase has stunk for years.  

I'll expect another statement along the lines of "the same old sad illegitimates will turn up regardless of what we charge".

Everyone is well aware that the club is up financial shitcreek without a paddle but this replay could be used as an opportunity to get people in cheap, get people back through the gates, new faces in the ground for future games. The club shouldn't be budgeting for any cup income so whatever comes through the gate is a bonus.

We need long term thinking, not the short sighted backward thinking that has blighted the club for the last god knows how many years.  Port Vale in the first round replay is not a money spinner, it is an opportunity though. Sadly one that we once again will waste.  

They club has no money as it is. Reducing prices for a maybe a few hundred more people would be stupid. People moan about the mismanagement of the club and it's the same people who moan we're not letting people in on the cheap. You'd be moaning if it was a Championship club coming and people was getting in for cheap. Seen as so you pay £18 every week for a ticket wouldn't you.

Instead of moaning why don't you support the club.

Port Vale are a league side , who was facing us a NON LEAGUE team,

So they had to put the prices down to get their fans through the gate,

On the otherhand, we are a NON LEAGUE team facing a massive club who play in the football league,

So imo Town should have put the prices UP not down,  

We need the money because we have not got any!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But weve reduced our cut of yesterdays game by allowing the admission prices being priced like they were but in the end the Clubs poor PR will always be embarrassing when other clubs look at the way we do things

Quoted from the Grimbarian

But weve reduced our cut of yesterdays game by allowing the admission prices being priced like they were but in the end the Clubs poor PR will always be embarrassing when other clubs look at the way we do things

So Vale got 4,500 odd yeah? we get half of the money decent return. we only get 2000 odd now = not so good return at lower prices its not hard.

How many extra do you think will come if we reduce the price? 200 max = lose more money then we would of done  keeping it normal prices.

We need to get real, we need money

Also on another note the pay what you like offer worked wonders didn't it?

Quoted from Super Clive

Also on another note the pay what you like offer worked wonders didn't it?

the product is so devalued and the club so run down in pretty much every way im not sure free admission would work

Quoted from dapperz fun pub

the product is so devalued and the club so run down in pretty much every way im not sure free admission would work

some people would still moan

Quoted from MarinerJosh

They club has no money as it is. Reducing prices for a maybe a few hundred more people would be stupid. People moan about the mismanagement of the club and it's the same people who moan we're not letting people in on the cheap. You'd be moaning if it was a Championship club coming and people was getting in for cheap. Seen as so you pay £18 every week for a ticket wouldn't you.

Instead of moaning why don't you support the club.

Spot on as is cleethorpes_mariner:: no doubt the Club hasn't even looked at it yet but some bitchh like its a done deal.

They must all be dimwits in charge (Noddy and Big_Ears) to coin a phrase courtesy of JF, all because as ever some jump the gun where others TBH hold the view that quite possibly reducing the prices substantially is not likely to increase the gate anyway.

diehardmariner are you real!!!!!
Why are people surprised? The clubs attitude towards the dwindling fanbase has stunk for years.  

Anyway tightarse Fenty is bound to be wrong.

20% VAT passes on the HMRC:: A point for those with superior calculations and knowledge.

Both club have to agree, we obviously did to yesterday's prices and seemingly someone hasn't for the replay. Its a flipping boring debate every time we have a cup game...you support a club and you choose to go to te match. If we get Chelsea away in the 3rd round and it's £40 a ticket will the moaning girl privates not go then???

If we end up having a decent run the slight reduction in price won't seem that relevant. We are hardly playing a side which excite you and we all know that we aren't too good either...the attendance will be lowish regardless of price. The plastics will stay and watch the over paid twits in the champions league ad claim to be lifelong city, manure fans etc and then you'll get people working shifts, those that live away may not make the journey being a night game and the moaners won't go so to be fair the attendance won't be that great anyway...

Sadly, I seriously doubt that halving the prices would double the crowd, so I can see where the club are coming from on this.

Quoted from MarinerJosh

They club has no money as it is. Reducing prices for a maybe a few hundred more people would be stupid. People moan about the mismanagement of the club and it's the same people who moan we're not letting people in on the cheap. You'd be moaning if it was a Championship club coming and people was getting in for cheap. Seen as so you pay £18 every week for a ticket wouldn't you.

Instead of moaning why don't you support the club.

Hang on a sec, Josh. I'll be there regardless so your point about supporting the club instead of moaning is a bit mute really.

The reason we've had no success before has to be down to the crappy marketing of it.  

The lack of new blood coming through the gates is frightening.  The club aren't doing anything about it and with a degree of sympathy will struggle to do so for league games.  This is the perfect chance to get people in and hooked for more than one game.  Forget about how much extra we would make with normal prices, this is much bigger than that.  Any clubs lifeblood is its fans, ours are leaving in droves with no replacements through the turnstiles.

The club is dying, yet people are still obsessed with relatively small figures over one game. One game that we shouldn't have accounted for.  Sooner rather than later this club is going to be dependent on its fanbase, the larger that is the better.  

Despite  GTFC's indifferent PR attitude to its fans (with the exception of the free coaches a couple of years ago) i can understand the thought that we need every penny we can get and has been said, halving the price doesn't mean doubling the crowd, but reducing  to say £10 (as Vale did) would almost certainly put a few hundred on the gate, meaning revenues would be similar and it creates a better atmosphere in the ground to cheer the team on, obviously the club are in a difficult financial position, but a bit of PR towards the fans might
well  be beneficial in the long term.

Quoted from Pongo

Spot on as is cleethorpes_mariner:: no doubt the Club hasn't even looked at it yet but some bitchh like its a done deal.

They must all be dimwits in charge (Noddy and Big_Ears) to coin a phrase courtesy of JF, all because as ever some jump the gun where others TBH hold the view that quite possibly reducing the prices substantially is not likely to increase the gate anyway.

diehardmariner are you real!!!!!
Why are people surprised? The clubs attitude towards the dwindling fanbase has stunk for years.  

Anyway tightarse Fenty is bound to be wrong.

20% VAT passes on the HMRC:: A point for those with superior calculations and knowledge.

It already is a done deal.  On the OS.  

Quoted from grimsby pete

Port Vale are a league side , who was facing us a NON LEAGUE team,

So they had to put the prices down to get their fans through the gate,

On the otherhand, we are a NON LEAGUE team facing a massive club who play in the football league,

So imo Town should have put the prices UP not down,  

We need the money because we have not got any!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't agree Pete, we need stayaway fans back in the ground, game against league opposition would help the interest so would a bit of lateral thinking from the club.

Well now the big draw of going to salisbury city is on the cards a bumper crowd will surely turn out to see us through so they could probably increase prices above normal !!

Quoted from diehardmariner

Hang on a sec, Josh. I'll be there regardless so your point about supporting the club instead of moaning is a bit mute really.

The reason we've had no success before has to be down to the crappy marketing of it.  

The lack of new blood coming through the gates is frightening.  The club aren't doing anything about it and with a degree of sympathy will struggle to do so for league games.  This is the perfect chance to get people in and hooked for more than one game.  Forget about how much extra we would make with normal prices, this is much bigger than that.  Any clubs lifeblood is its fans, ours are leaving in droves with no replacements through the turnstiles.

The club is dying, yet people are still obsessed with relatively small figures over one game. One game that we shouldn't have accounted for.  Sooner rather than later this club is going to be dependent on its fanbase, the larger that is the better.  

But reducing prices isn't going to make people return to the Park. Like someone has said above me, people wouldn't moan if we had Chelsea away and you had to pay £40 for a ticket. It wasn't so long ago we was playing Vale in the league and you would have been paying the same price.

So you want Town to do well but youre a skin flint and dont want to support them?

The gate will not increase much just because the gate prices were reduced, the club needs all the money that they can get to stay in business, a point seemingly lost by some on here

Quoted from MarinerJosh

They club has no money as it is. Reducing prices for a maybe a few hundred more people would be stupid. People moan about the mismanagement of the club and it's the same people who moan we're not letting people in on the cheap. You'd be moaning if it was a Championship club coming and people was getting in for cheap. Seen as so you pay £18 every week for a ticket wouldn't you.

Instead of moaning why don't you support the club.

I will got a couple of get in for £10 left

Quoted from diehardmariner

Hang on a sec, Josh. I'll be there regardless so your point about supporting the club instead of moaning is a bit mute really.

The reason we've had no success before has to be down to the crappy marketing of it.  

The lack of new blood coming through the gates is frightening.  The club aren't doing anything about it and with a degree of sympathy will struggle to do so for league games.  This is the perfect chance to get people in and hooked for more than one game.  Forget about how much extra we would make with normal prices, this is much bigger than that.  Any clubs lifeblood is its fans, ours are leaving in droves with no replacements through the turnstiles.

The club is dying, yet people are still obsessed with relatively small figures over one game. One game that we shouldn't have accounted for.  Sooner rather than later this club is going to be dependent on its fanbase, the larger that is the better.  

New support and more fans will come with one thing alone and that is success.  Ticket prices at the Vale game will not make one bit of difference if we remain languishing in the lower reaches of the conference.

This is not a bonus match as a few seem to think but one that will require staging, policing etc.  The clubs immediate priority is to cover the cost for this.

Pay your money and go and support the club, both finacially and vocally.

Quoted from MarinerJosh

But reducing prices isn't going to make people return to the Park. Like someone has said above me, people wouldn't moan if we had Chelsea away and you had to pay £40 for a ticket. It wasn't so long ago we was playing Vale in the league and you would have been paying the same price.

Because we tried it in some pointless end of season league game doesn't mean it won't work for this game if it is marketed well. By that I don't mean putting it on the OS and a sub story in the Telegraph. We need to get out to people who won't read the OS or the Telegraph.  

Like it or not, this is a big game for us. It doesn't exactly give me a boner but this is potentially the only chance we will get this year to attract interest outside our core base.

Playing Chelsea or any team of their ilk is totally different scenario. That will attract anyone because of the opposition.  Port Vale wont, but they and the fact it is the FA Cup has far more potential to get people through the gate than Hayes or Redditch etc.  

The club need to stop hoping a big cup tie will ease our
problems and start being proactive about securing its future.  

A failing club in an Impoverished area doesn't make it easy to attract new fans but can anyone honestly say the club are doing anywhere near enough to promote themselves?  

Quoted from Garth

The gate will not increase much just because the gate prices were reduced, the club needs all the money that they can get to stay in business, a point seemingly lost by some on here

In order to stay in business, the club need more revenue on a regular basis. An extra 500 paying full price = £9000 per home game = over £200,000 per season = paying about 6 players.

Short term gain is not the answer. There are potentially 5000 fans waiting to watch Town and they need to be brought back to make the club solvent again or are you too just happy for Fenty to carry on bankrolling the club?

Quoted from cardiffmariner

New support and more fans will come with one thing alone and that is success.  Ticket prices at the Vale game will not make one bit of difference if we remain languishing in the lower reaches of the conference.

So let's just hope we hit upon a magic formula soon and watch as the generation gap at BP continues, the gates dwindle and the club dies.  No?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

In order to stay in business, the club need more revenue on a regular basis. An extra 500 paying full price = £9000 per home game = over £200,000 per season = paying about 6 players.

Short term gain is not the answer. There are potentially 5000 fans waiting to watch Town and they need to be brought back to make the club solvent again or are you too just happy for Fenty to carry on bankrolling the club?

Excellent post.

More people in the ground = better support = better results = more people coming in the longer term.

intercourse the league it's over this season, we should be embracing the FACup as a Town and packing it as full as we can to get into the 3rd round.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

In order to stay in business, the club need more revenue on a regular basis. An extra 500 paying full price = £9000 per home game = over £200,000 per season = paying about 6 players.
Short term gain is not the answer. There are potentially 5000 fans waiting to watch Town and they need to be brought back to make the club solvent again or are you too just happy for Fenty to carry on bankrolling the club?

That's all well and good but we know full well that all it takes is one bad home result and that 500 extra fans will disappear like melting snow. Our financial problems are short-term ( as in  this season ) and it's no good hypothesising about possible financial gains in 5 years time when we are short of money now.

If we are on ESPN (fingers crossed) I could see prices being reduced.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Can't agree Pete, we need stayaway fans back in the ground, game against league opposition would help the interest so would a bit of lateral thinking from the club.

All  it would do if the price was reduced is to  add 200 to 300 to the gate, so we would lose money,

IF and its a big IF  we get MAN UTD at home in R3,

All the stayaway fans will be moaning that they can not get a ticket,

Everytime we do an offer, we seem to play really badly and lose.  So maybe it should be normal prices.

Quoted from diehardmariner

So let's just hope we hit upon a magic formula soon and watch as the generation gap at BP continues, the gates dwindle and the club dies.  No?

Is that what I said?  

You could let everyone in for free and we won't get significantly more than usual.  This is not a big draw to those fans who have stopped or never did turn up.  Lowering prices for one game will not impact the level of support we achieve for the remainder of the season, whatever the size of the crowd, whatever the score, however well we play.

The gate, by and large, will always be determined by what goes on on the pitch and not how much it costs to get through the turnstile.

As much as I agree with your desire to get more people to the game, cutting prices will have no long term affect and will lose the club money toboot

Pete, you're missing the point about the extra however many additional people it will bring in.

Forget about 2000x18 against 2400x10. It's about getting those extra people through the gate and then keep coming back, bringing kids, dads, uncles with them.  That massively outweighs any gate receipts on one night.  If the club haven't accounted for a cup tie this should be a bonus income, after overheads are paid.

I'm a mug and have been since I was 7 so I'll be there regardless, sadly the mugs amongst us are getting lower and lower in numbers. We badly need extra people through those turnstiles.  

Quoted from cardiffmariner

Is that what I said?  

You could let everyone in for free and we won't get significantly more than usual.  This is not a big draw to those fans who have stopped or never did turn up.  Lowering prices for one game will not impact the level of support we achieve for the remainder of the season, whatever the size of the crowd, whatever the score, however well we play.

The gate, by and large, will always be determined by what goes on on the pitch and not how much it costs to get through the turnstile.

As much as I agree with your desire to get more people to the game, cutting prices will have no long term affect and will lose the club money toboot

In terms of a big draw I totally agree. It's urine poor but it is the biggest game for the club at BP since Barnet 17 months ago. I hope to god we get to Old Trafford in Round 3 and that six figure windfall plus all the exposure that comes with it. However you'll have to forgive me if I don't think we will get that rub of the green.

M

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Er...lose what...extra home game...more revenue??? Charge ST's £6, all others £12 get bums on seats, it's a no-brainer...2000 @ £6, 2000 @ £12 = £36k but 4000 in as opposed to 2500 tops.

Do you genuinely believe that we would get 2000 in if the price is rkeduced to £12? I doubt you'd get an extra hundred. The only way you'd get 4k is if it was knocked down to a fiver or less

Speculate to accumulate, a home replay with the prospect of playing a team lower than us is the best chance we've had of reaching 3rd round for ages.

I genuinely believe that the club should look at reducing stewarding and other matchday costs and notwithstanding that, this represents extra revenue whichever way you dress it up. The only way to get fresh blood through the gates is an incentive, especially on a Champions League night.

A Cup replay against Port Vale is not the time to reduce the gate fees: when we get drawn at home to 'The Red Lion' from Sleaford or a pub side from somewhere even smaller in the FA Trophy, that is when we should let people in for £5.00.

Champions League night or not, dropping the entrance fee would not have gained any new supporters or made any dosh: a few extra programmes and food might have been bought, but come on: the attendance wouldn't have grown very much at all.

Quoted from MyDogsThoughts

A Cup replay against Port Vale is not the time to reduce the gate fees: when we get drawn at home to 'The Red Lion' from Sleaford or a pub side from somewhere even smaller in the FA Trophy, that is when we should let people in for £5.00.

Champions League night or not, dropping the entrance fee would not have gained any new supporters or made any dosh: a few extra programmes and food might have been bought, but come on: the attendance wouldn't have grown very much at all.

i agree - if we get 2500 (and that might be optimistic!) at full price = £45,000. you'd have to get nearly 4000 at £12 each to make it work.
ps any idea how much we made from saturday?

It was £10 each and attendance was 4400 or so wasn't it? So £42,000 (allowing for a few kids for £5) minus costs (£5-7000 at BP, according to Steve Wraith) so £35,000 between the 2 clubs = £17,500. Ish.

STHs can use the £10/£5 vouchers that came with their season ticket pack, sorry if mentioned before. So after two trips to BP I have my tickets.

Quoted from Biccys

It was £10 each and attendance was 4400 or so wasn't it? So £42,000 (allowing for a few kids for £5) minus costs (£5-7000 at BP, according to Steve Wraith) so £35,000 between the 2 clubs = £17,500. Ish.

I think you can half that. VAT and 5% for the FA reduces that some what.

Don't forget Vale have to agree to any price reduction, not saying that they haven't, just that's it is not entirely in our hands to set the admission price

Quoted from MuddyWaters

A chance to drum up some atmosphere & enthusiasm and the club chucks it away.

Many will now watch Champs League on telly & stay at home.

thats what cup runs are for to earn extra revenue aren't they? i know,lets let everyone in for nothing,but not to worry because the fans won't moan when there is no money for players etc etc...............jesus, some people.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Speculate to accumulate, a home replay with the prospect of playing a team lower than us is the best chance we've had of reaching 3rd round for ages.

I genuinely believe that the club should look at reducing stewarding and other matchday costs and notwithstanding that, this represents extra revenue whichever way you dress it up. The only way to get fresh blood through the gates is an incentive, especially on a Champions League night.

You can also say " A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush ". We could chance it with lower admission fees but if the extra fans don't materialise then we have thrown much needed revenue away.
I do agree with the stewarding though - the stewards had a fire drill during a match a few games back and I couldn't believe how many there were.

Quoted from Biccys

It was £10 each and attendance was 4400 or so wasn't it? So £42,000 (allowing for a few kids for £5) minus costs (£5-7000 at BP, according to Steve Wraith) so £35,000 between the 2 clubs = £17,500. Ish.

I'm pretty sure kids were £1.00 on Saturday and there were hundreds of them!

Quoted from bladerunnner

thats what cup runs are for to earn extra revenue aren't they? i know,lets let everyone in for nothing,but not to worry because the fans won't moan when there is no money for players etc etc...............jesus, some people.

Come on then Einstein, how are you going to get the missing fans back?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Come on then Einstein, how are you going to get the missing fans back?

Performances on the pitch Mr IQ ! No amount of price reductions will encourage fans back if the performances don't match what is expected.

Not sure if you're right or not rancido.

Sure some fans won't come back because of poor results regardless, but there must be quite a few unsure whether to part with their cash, especially if things aren't going well ?

tbh, I'm potentially one of them and I wouldn't say my attendance is purely based upon results either, especially in winter when you're paying to freeze your knackers off.
Nor would I underestimate what a few initiatives could do to attract people to the park.
If not, why do GTST talk about improving the "match-day experience" ?

I certainly don't think we should rely on a strategy of good performances alone - take success and your customers for granted and you'll probably end up losing them.

It's credit to the fans who stick with the club through thick and thin but after 20 years support not sure I can do it for the next 20 with what I'm being asked to pay - £16 a throw for BSP football with poor catering, facilities etc is asking a lot, especially in these financially challenging times.

If it went to £18 I'd probably have to think twice if it's worth it, even if we were flying the league.
But that's just me.

How fickle are gtfc fans? The club can't win, they reduce the prices and people moan that its ripping off season ticket holders, they don't reduce them for a fa cup replay against higher opposition and they're 'idiots' for missing an opportunity to get bums on seats. Make your bloody minds up!!

gtfc98, how can lowering prices be ripping off season ticket holders if most without vouchers need to pay ?
Old Codger even suggested STH's pay £6 and others pay £12.
Make your mind up ? Can't win for not accepting the bleedin' obvious more like !

Quoted from bladerunnner

thats what cup runs are for to earn extra revenue aren't they? i know,lets let everyone in for nothing,but not to worry because the fans won't moan when there is no money for players etc etc...............jesus, some people.

You want to talk about "extra revenue" ?...
How much do we earn for actually getting through in terms of prizemoney and potential gate receipts if we overcome Port Vale and mighty Salisbury in R2 ?
Getting into R3 is a near extra £40,000 in prizemoney for a start and that's WITHOUT potentially huge gate receipts !

But let's forget all that, let's just concentrate on picking up the extra pennies from higher prices in the replay (forget there will more in the ground spending their money too) and pretend a better atmosphere at BP won't make a sod of difference shall we ?  

I can just imagine some people on here going on "Deal or no deal", they'd be taking an offer from the banker for a grand with only 2 boxes left including one for £250K !  

There's a time to gamble (though tbh I don't think it really is) and I would argue this is it.
Fenty should at least be trying to "pack the park" for this one IMO.
Some people paid full whack in the "pay what you like" game vs Altrincham, so why can't we do something similar again ?
We could even put on a "get £7 off Port Vale" offer if you buy a matchday ticket for Newport or something...
But if people are really that bothered about the club losing revenue, then hand over the savings to the ticket office, or spend it in the club shop or ground !

Also, surely any tiny profit we get from higher ticket prices in a one off replay will be sucked up into the massive black hole of debt anyway ?
So we'll simply be putting off the inevitable financial struggle until later with no apparent backup plan other than "cross your fingers".

Don't like to say it, but it's getting tiresome listening to fans with a short term penny pinching mentality dragging the club down by defending everything it ever does like some kind of nervous reaction.
It's time for fans to stop being "followers" and start thinking BIG pulling their fingers out to help make it survive IMO.
That means coming up with alternative PLAN.
I've given several already, now let me hear yours please ?  

I bet you if the replay goes mammaries up in a wimper, we'll be hearing how fans need to "dig deep" and "do their bit" later down the line to cough up though...
But give fans half a chance to make some serious money to help drag us out the sh1t, it seems they're not interested ?!!!  

Is it any wonder we're underperforming ?    
I fear for my club, I really do...  

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Come on then Einstein, how are you going to get the missing fans back?

Not by devalueing the product when playing a massive unit like Vale seriously though if you think dropping the admission prices for this match will bring back thousands you require a straight jacket off Ebay