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ginnywings
February 16, 2023, 5:04pm

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It absolutely is excuses. We've been shite all season. The first 10 games we picked up about 10 points more than we deserved by teams missing hatfulls of sitters. The difference now is that they're not.

Those points will probably save us, but quite clearly we aren't good enough.


We've been sh1te in some games admittedly, but good in some others, and mediocre in the majority.

All teams miss chances, it's the way of it in League 2 and we have missed plenty ourselves. The Efete one against Colchester a few days ago for instance. We missed good chances against Bradford. Northampton and especially Sutton at home from memory. Swindon too has just sprung to mind.

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you never heard anything about ron jeremy complaining about not getting any rest


To be honest, if you asked him he'd say it was a really hard life 😏
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February 16, 2023, 5:25pm
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Is that like we were shite last season yet went from January to the end only losing 3 games and then winning all three playoff matches away, in extra time?

We’re not shite this year at all, it’s a just a sweeping generalisation. To say that would imply we’re flukey or didn’t deserve those wins which is absolute balderdash. Take Stockport away, excrement teams don’t go away and dominate. Plymouth at home, Crewe twice, Luton, Walsall, Colchester away and so on. You don’t win those games if you’re shite.

I think the word everyone is looking for is, inconsistent. That’s an issue but to say we’re shite is bullshit…


Tend to agree with you

If ( and I know it's a big IF ) we had held on to leads at Hartlepool and Harrogate and maybe not conceded so late on Tuesday, we'd have had another 7 points on the board

A potential 40 points at this stage of the season instead of the 33 we actually have would mean our analysis / critique of how the season has gone would be a lot less negative

I stand to be proven wrong but I think we have enough to get the 50 points or so that should guarantee our safety .... 19 games to go, at a point a game and we'll be in League 2 again next season with a suitably refreshed squad

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To be honest, if you asked him he'd say it was a really hard life 😏


He certainly seemed to have lots of stamina!


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I think this season was always going to catch up with us after such little time off in the summer.


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Tend to agree with you

If ( and I know it's a big IF ) we had held on to leads at Hartlepool and Harrogate and maybe not conceded so late on Tuesday, we'd have had another 7 points on the board

A potential 40 points at this stage of the season instead of the 33 we actually have would mean our analysis / critique of how the season has gone would be a lot less negative

I stand to be proven wrong but I think we have enough to get the 50 points or so that should guarantee our safety .... 19 games to go, at a point a game and we'll be in League 2 again next season with a suitably refreshed squad

UTM


At last some balanced, pragmatic opinion to offset all of the angry overstatement.


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February 17, 2023, 7:19am
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At last some balanced, pragmatic opinion to offset all of the angry overstatement.


It’s hypothesis though. We haven’t got 40 points, we don’t have a physical presence in our forward options and we’re easy to play against. Our home form, which should create the most points is woeful and we’ve wasted what was a pretty good start to the season.

I still believe we’ll get to safety but it’s going to be harder than it should have been.
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Yeah I understand that. You can’t deny facts, and that leads to reflection. Our home form and points return has been dreadful, and many of the performances haven’t been great to watch. We did have a good start to the season and failed to capitalise on that. We have lost games we really shouldn’t have against poor teams ((although every club in the league will have examples of that), we do seem to be lacking a visible and entertaining or winning method at times and we do have a need for an upgrade on some of our players but….

We are clearly not ‘sh1t’. That’s really unfair on our squad whom I think are all committed and passionate and give their best. We are not, presently, in a ‘relegation dogfight’.
It is too early to say whether we had an ‘appalling transfer window’ and we do not need a ‘massive squad overhaul’ in the summer. Yes some quality additions/replacements are needed, and we all know what positions we’re referring to, but we have a fair few good players for this level. Many results and performances in recent months have been below the required standard and we shouldn’t settle for that, but a load of blithering, entitled, negative, sometimes abusive overstatement isn’t helpful or credible.
There have been some excellent performances and results this season, in amongst the disappointments, but those people who’ve been telling us they’ve been supporting Town for 50/60/70 years and the football they’re watching this season is amongst the worst they’ve seen are talking absolute cobblers in my view. I’m a long term fan myself of about 40ish years and I’ve seen way, way, way worse seasons, teams and performances than anything i’ve seen this season, as disappointed as we all are.

We need to establish some composure and pragmatism, keep aiming high and strive to climb a few places, and take stock. And keep backing the boys.  


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Quoted from chaos33
Yeah I understand that. You can’t deny facts, and that leads to reflection. Our home form and points return has been dreadful, and many of the performances haven’t been great to watch. We did have a good start to the season and failed to capitalise on that. We have lost games we really shouldn’t have against poor teams ((although every club in the league will have examples of that), we do seem to be lacking a visible and entertaining or winning method at times and we do have a need for an upgrade on some of our players but….

We are clearly not ‘sh1t’. That’s really unfair on our squad whom I think are all committed and passionate and give their best. We are not, presently, in a ‘relegation dogfight’.
It is too early to say whether we had an ‘appalling transfer window’ and we do not need a ‘massive squad overhaul’ in the summer. Yes some quality additions/replacements are needed, and we all know what positions we’re referring to, but we have a fair few good players for this level. Many results and performances in recent months have been below the required standard and we shouldn’t settle for that, but a load of blithering, entitled, negative, sometimes abusive overstatement isn’t helpful or credible.
There have been some excellent performances and results this season, in amongst the disappointments, but those people who’ve been telling us they’ve been supporting Town for 50/60/70 years and the football they’re watching this season is amongst the worst they’ve seen are talking absolute cobblers in my view. I’m a long term fan myself of about 40ish years and I’ve seen way, way, way worse seasons, teams and performances than anything i’ve seen this season, as disappointed as we all are.

We need to establish some composure and pragmatism, keep aiming high and strive to climb a few places, and take stock. And keep backing the boys.  


Fair dos. I’ll never stop backing the boys but we need to take stock of what’s happening in the windows and start working on a different strategy. If you look at the last two windows, we’ve signed very few players who have been regular starters at this level.
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February 17, 2023, 9:17am
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Fair dos. I’ll never stop backing the boys but we need to take stock of what’s happening in the windows and start working on a different strategy. If you look at the last two windows, we’ve signed very few players who have been regular starters at this level.


Genuine question.  Seeing as we can't compete financially and our location seems to be a problem too, what strategy would you suggest to help us sign a couple of top quality League 2 players?  For example, do we take a punt, hypothetically on a striker who has scored say 26 goals in a League two below us, and hope that playing with better players might enable him to do the same in League 2?

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