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cannylad65
February 12, 2023, 9:59am
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Do we currently have one midfielder on the books, who can dominate a game?

Yes or No.
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February 12, 2023, 10:00am

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Do we currently have one midfielder on the books, who can dominate a game?

Yes or No.


No, but when was the last time we did? Probably Pouton
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HertsGTFC
February 12, 2023, 10:01am

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Do we currently have one midfielder on the books, who can dominate a game?

Yes or No.


Do you get them at our level?


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February 12, 2023, 10:23am
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Do you get them at our level?


Moncur?
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cannylad65
February 12, 2023, 10:34am
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Perhaps the word should be 'compete'.

I've seen a few in the opposition this season.
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Simple answer is no
They are much of a muchness
Very good on their day but far too inconsistent

I think that's where our problems were in the main yesterday - out-thought, out-muscled... no one to out their stamp on the game

We didn't win enough second balls to then try and play our game
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February 12, 2023, 10:51am
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Quoted from devs
Simple answer is no
They are much of a muchness
Very good on their day but far too inconsistent

I think that's where our problems were in the main yesterday - out-thought, out-muscled... no one to out their stamp on the game

We didn't win enough second balls to then try and play our game


We simply couldn’t handle the physical battle that Colchester brought to the table. Of all our outfield players, only Waterfall was taller than 6ft. They meanwhile had no less than 6 who met the criteria.

I think it’s no coincidence that we’ve performed better against teams in higher divisions this season. We’re a decent, hard working team, but we badly lack the physicality needed to perform consistently in League Two. Of course it’s not as simple as signing a load of 6ft 5” lumps, but it is something we need to address in the summer.


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February 12, 2023, 11:01am
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Khan at Swindon (ex Chesterfield) probably one of the better ones I’ve seen this season in stopping opposition play. To be honest the little fella they had yesterday (Greaves?) did very well, in a game that was hard to excel in.


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February 12, 2023, 11:05am
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Yesterday was another game where the physical presence of Ryan Taylor was obviously missed. It’s not easy when you’re a midfielder looking to play forward when the movement around you is poor either. Lloyd was very effective at moving two centre backs around at Crewe but was bullied out of it yesterday and, sad to say that McAtee seemed to lose interest too.

Talking to someone after the game, they made the point that taking Hunt off at half time actually made us worse.
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February 12, 2023, 11:27am
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How are you defining "dominate a game"? There have been several matches this season that we've taken points because our midfield has outran and outfought the opposition. Newport away, Holohan was immense and Harry and Morris got the goals that won it. Stockport away again, midfield was absolutely boss. Both Luton games, both Crewe games, Walsall away... basically every time we've won the midfield has been very good. A good midfield is a unit not a single player.

I'd argue that we've dropped points more due to defensive errors and a lack of creativity or being clinical than we have through poor midfield endeavour.
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February 12, 2023, 11:52am

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Moncur?


Good call!


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February 12, 2023, 11:57am

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Colchester nullified our attack as they out muscled us in mid field and cut off any supply to our forwards. They stopped us scoring, the reason they won the game however was our inability to deal with the play that led to the goal.


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Khan at Swindon (ex Chesterfield) probably one of the better ones I’ve seen this season in stopping opposition play. To be honest the little fella they had yesterday (Greaves?) did very well, in a game that was hard to excel in.


Was Greaves the ginger one? If so, he was the best player on the pitch.
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February 12, 2023, 12:24pm
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I think if you ask the opposition this question I think a few would say, Clifton.
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We simply couldn’t handle the physical battle that Colchester brought to the table. Of all our outfield players, only Waterfall was taller than 6ft. They meanwhile had no less than 6 who met the criteria.

I think it’s no coincidence that we’ve performed better against teams in higher divisions this season. We’re a decent, hard working team, but we badly lack the physicality needed to perform consistently in League Two. Of course it’s not as simple as signing a load of 6ft 5” lumps, but it is something we need to address in the summer.


My immediate thought when they came out for the start was 'Our tallest is on par with their smallest'.



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February 12, 2023, 1:37pm
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Holohan and Morris did a very good job at controlling games earlier in the season. Newport away stands out as they bossed that game.
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February 12, 2023, 6:24pm
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FFS....we lose a game at home and now its time for "squad" bashing threads to start and the meltdowns to begin!..
We lost, we got bullied, pulled down to their level, it happens!...get over it, we move on.
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February 12, 2023, 8:18pm
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FFS....we lose a game at home and now its time for "squad" bashing threads to start and the meltdowns to begin!..
We lost, we got bullied, pulled down to their level, it happens!...get over it, we move on.


Think the point is, well the one I was trying to make last night, we don’t dominate home matches in the way that we would hope/expect. Whilst Green has limitations he would have been ideal yesterday as his physicality was much required. Against teams like Colchester we either need to sign on players who are much taller and stronger in stature or improve the quality of our football on the ground. Unfortunately the latter is not helped by the state of the pitch and the injury to Khan and a complete reluctance to put Scannell on the pitch.
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February 12, 2023, 8:41pm
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Luton were quite a big defence ............
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