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We have 14 players contracted so far - better than we have been at this stage in some years but need to get a few more re-signings over the line. Probably only 7 first team players currently. I'm sure Hurst has plenty more lined up....
Keepers: Max Crocombe
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Midfielders: Gavan Holohan Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell
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I would put shaun Pearson in bold as a first team player (albeit probably 4th choice)
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We are up to a squad of 15. Looking good in defence. A few midfielders needed alongside Holohan and Cesc Keepers: Max Crocombe Defenders: Michee Efete Jaz Goundry Shaun Pearson Luke Waterfall Niall Maher David Longe-King Midfielders: Gavan Holohan Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell Forwards: John McAtee Jordan Maguire-Drew Dani Orsi Edwin Essel Harvey Tomlinson
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Wouldn’t shock me to see Braithwaite Tomlinson and Bramwell involved with the first team regularly. Bramwell looked really good against Eastleigh. I know Braithwaite and Tomlinson are both held in very high regard also
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Think you will be adding harry to the list fairly shortly. Wonder if essel will go out on loan, theres obviously a promising player there
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Wouldn’t shock me to see Braithwaite Tomlinson and Bramwell involved with the first team regularly. Bramwell looked really good against Eastleigh. I know Braithwaite and Tomlinson are both held in very high regard also
Tomlinson caught the eye last time I went to a reserve game.
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Where does that leave us now in terms of the senior, our of contract players?
Unless I’ve missed one, that’s Waterfall and Efete signed up, while Fox has moved on. So that means the following are still to officially reach a decision:
Amos Cropper Clifton Scannell Taylor
It sounds as if there may be some doubt over Clifton, if the FGR rumours are true, but I’d like to think we’d have a decent chance of retaining him. If we can get through the remaining 5 and emerge having only lost Fox, that would give us a really solid base to work from for next season.
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In his current situation, you'd have thought Scannell would have been the first to 'snap their hands off'.
BUT all we know is that he, and the others, have been offered a contract. For all we know, that contract could only be for 6 months, to cover his recovery period, but he may want more stability.
We shall find out in the next few weeks
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I think the majority of the contracts will be done and dusted now, if not in the final stages of negotiations.
The club will want to keep the drumbeat going for ticket sales and just general interest. No benefit from announcing all signings and re-signings at once.
Regards Scannell, I'll be absolutely amazed if he doesn't sign a deal. Unless he wants to completely explore new avenues. In recent seasons his output has been very low due to injuries. He didn't play an awful lot in a side that finished 6th in the Conference. He's now got a lengthy rehab period to contend with that will likely rule him out until the New Year. Who is going to offer him a deal of any sorts?
He signs with us he gets correct and proper treatment provided and a wage, reduced terms perhaps. If he doesn't sign with us he's looking at finding and possibly funding his own rehab and is without any income from the game.
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Almost a matchday squad now!
Keepers: Max Crocombe
Defenders: Michee Efete Jaz Goundry Shaun Pearson Luke Waterfall Niall Maher David Longe-King
Midfielders: Gavan Holohan Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell Evan Khouri
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Doesn’t look like it - but you never know - some of these young players could be just ripe to burst through . UTM
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Almost a matchday squad now!
Keepers: Max Crocombe
Defenders: Michee Efete Jaz Goundry Shaun Pearson Luke Waterfall Niall Maher David Longe-King
Midfielders: Gavan Holohan Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell Evan Khouri
Forwards: John McAtee Jordan Maguire-Drew Dani Orsi Edwin Essel Harvey Tomlinson
Haven't you missed Battersby off there?..
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Haven't you missed Battersby off there?..
Battersby hasn’t signed yet?
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Four left to re-sign: Oliver Battersby Daniel Amos Jordan Cropper Harry Clifton
I'd be surprised if any of that four are leaving us, which takes us to 21 with the 17 contracted. Maybe then 4-5 more signings before the start of the season, and leaving room for some loans?
Keepers: Max Crocombe
Defenders: Michee Efete Jaz Goundry Shaun Pearson Luke Waterfall Niall Maher David Longe-King
Midfielders: Gavan Holohan Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell Evan Khouri
Forwards: John McAtee Ryan Taylor Jordan Maguire-Drew Dani Orsi Edwin Essel Harvey Tomlinson
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Four left to re-sign: Oliver Battersby Daniel Amos Jordan Cropper Harry Clifton
I'd be surprised if any of that four are leaving us, which takes us to 21 with the 17 contracted. Maybe then 4-5 more signings before the start of the season, and leaving room for some loans?
Keepers: Max Crocombe
Defenders: Michee Efete Jaz Goundry Shaun Pearson Luke Waterfall Niall Maher David Longe-King
Midfielders: Gavan Holohan Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell Evan Khouri
Forwards: John McAtee Ryan Taylor Jordan Maguire-Drew Dani Orsi Edwin Essel Harvey Tomlinson
Nice to have some continuity, isn’t it. You’d imagine, given the sizeable increase in revenue next season, that there’s some significant budget set aside for those 4, 5 or maybe 6 players.
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Suspect Longe-King will go at some point. Looking at the above we need some experience in the middle and some more width as well. I think another striker/number 10 will come in to. We saw the value of having Abrahams and Mani on the bench and Taylor and McAtee struggled to play 90 minutes frequently. With 7 subs you'd want at least 2 if not 3 attacking options.
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Four left to re-sign: Oliver Battersby Daniel Amos Jordan Cropper Harry Clifton
I'd be surprised if any of that four are leaving us, which takes us to 21 with the 17 contracted. Maybe then 4-5 more signings before the start of the season, and leaving room for some loans?
Keepers: Max Crocombe
Defenders: Michee Efete Jaz Goundry Shaun Pearson Luke Waterfall Niall Maher David Longe-King
Midfielders: Gavan Holohan Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell Evan Khouri
Forwards: John McAtee Ryan Taylor Jordan Maguire-Drew Dani Orsi Edwin Essel Harvey Tomlinson
Sean Scannell has yet to re-sign.
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Assuming everyone resigns, central midfield and the wide areas seem to be the places we are most in need of.
Also with DLK almost certainly looking to move on another Centre back would be ideal aswell.
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We're getting there slowly. I still think we need another 10 players (4 existing & 6 new signings) before we have a full squad. But this is where we're at...
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We're getting there slowly. I still think we need another 10 players (4 existing & 6 new signings) before we have a full squad. But this is where we're at...
That's a more sophisticated presentation than I can manage. I'd love to see Mani back in the squad - but I guess the fact that he wasn't offered a deal suggests PH has someone he considers better up his sleeve.
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Khouri's not a winger and I don't think he'll be utilised there.
He did a job out there when needed because we had no-one else. He'll be competing for a slot inside, which leaves an even bigger gap down that left hand side. Thankfully there's plenty of time yet.
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Squad starting to take shape now. Assuming Cropper and Battersby sign, then maybe another 4 signings? Another left back, another forward, another CM and an out and out wide player?
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Midfielders: Gavan Holohan Aaron Braithwaite Jamie Bramwell Evan Khouri Harry Clifton Stephen Wearne
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I'd say
1x keeper 1x left back 1x centre back (if DLK goes)
1x centre mid (perhaps a holding mid to replace Fox) 1x winger (or 2x if Scannell doesn't sign or will be injured long-term)
1x striker
1x goalkeeping coach
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I'd like to see Cropper, Nolan and Glennon on board. Then one more midfielder and one more striker.
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Is anyone else wondering why we offered Scannell a new contract when he's not going to be fit for the start of the season (and potentially not making the squad when fit) and yet Max Wright hasn't made the cut. Thought Max was a good player even as an impact from the subs bench.
We are still 2 centre mid's, 2 wingers, a keeper, a centre back, a left back and a striker short. Plus a RB if Cropper doesn't re-sign. 8 or 9 more to come.
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Is anyone else wondering why we offered Scannell a new contract when he's not going to be fit for the start of the season (and potentially not making the squad when fit) and yet Max Wright hasn't made the cut. Thought Max was a good player even as an impact from the subs bench.
We are still 2 centre mid's, 2 wingers, a keeper, a centre back, a left back and a striker short. Plus a RB if Cropper doesn't re-sign. 8 or 9 more to come.
We offered Scannell a contract as a sign of good faith whilst he’s injured. He then has the chance to prove himself when fit to earn an extended contract. He’s head and shoulders above league 2 when fit as we saw in the short spell when he was. Just very unlucky with injuries. Max Wright showed glimpses but never nailed a position down in all the time he was here. Not good enough imo and we can get better.
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We definitely need two central midfielders. Fox will need replacing but we've also lost Raikhy, Burgess and Coke. Given that Wearne seems to be an attacking midfielder, there's no chance Hurst will only have 3 central midfielders in the squad.
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In terms of senior players then, this is how things shape up currently (excluding Longe-King who I don't think will be here).
Goalkeepers Crocombe
Full Backs Efete Cropper Amos Glennon
Centre Halves Waterfall Maher Pearson
Midfielders Clifton Holohan
Attacking Midfielders / Forwards McAtee Maguire-Drew Scannell Wearne
Strikers Taylor Orsi
I've made the distinction between midfielders and AM's / forwards like that because if we play loosely the same system we did last season (and I expect us to), then those more attacking players would feature as part of a front three rather than what you'd consider to be a traditional midfield role.
On that basis, we're probably about alright at full back with the addition of Glennon, unless there's room for a versatile youngster who can play either side at a push. I think Pearson's role will be more off the pitch than on it, so there's still room for another centre half; I'd be more than happy to see Andy Smith back if he's available.
It's the midfield where we look particularly light right now. With Fox, Raikhy and Coke gone, we've only really got Clifton and Holohan left who can play in that central three. Midfield is always an part of the pitch that we've looked weak in at League Two level, so it's a crucial area to get right, especially when you consider other sides have in that department. Sarcevic at Stockport, Smallwood at Bradford, Moncur at Leyton Orient. I think we need another three players in this department as an absolute minimum.
Likewise, with Scannell likely to be out until Christmas time and no certainty in terms of his fitness thereafter, we've only got McAtee, JMD and Wearne who can play as the creative outlets in a front three. We need another two here too, realistically.
Which brings us to the Striker department. Again, we're still light here currently. I expect we'll see more appearances off the bench from Taylor than starts next season, and without being certain where Orsi fits into things, I'd certainly welcome a number 9 type with a proven goal scoring record in the league. Maybe one more might be just about enough if we're only ever likely to play with one big man up top, but given the inability to sign non-free agents from September, I wouldn't be surprised to see another two.
So, with the addition of a second, senior 'keeper, that likely leaves us somewhere between 7 and 9 new players short of where we need to be, and a squad of 23 to 25 senior players. I think there's still going to be some exciting days and weeks ahead between now and the 30th of July. Bring it on!
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You forgot Battersby.
I didn't forget him, like Khouri I just didn't consider him to be amongst our "senior" players right now. I might be wrong on that, but I'd still expect to see another 'keeper through the door with a bit more experience.
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I didn't forget him, like Khouri I just didn't consider him to be amongst our "senior" players right now. I might be wrong on that, but I'd still expect to see another 'keeper through the door with a bit more experience.
Fair do's. Just saw him missing from your list, without really noticing you hadn't listed other young pro's. My bad as the kids say. I also expect another senior keeper- maybe even a goalkeeping coach who can still don the gloves if needed
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You forgot Battersby.
And Lounge-King
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I'm expecting quality rather than quantity from here on in, maybe only 3 more permanent signings - CM, Wide and Striker, supplemented perhaps by 2 long loans - another CM and CB, and some of the youth to get some opportunities.
Plus a keeper as well...
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Squad is looking very strong now and most in for the start of the pre season . Loans may be a problem as ther clubs will expect them to be playing not bench warming so will have to be of good standard
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And tomorrow ???
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Nothing on Scannell yet - presumably he's out of contract tomorrow.
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