Rumours - just one thread, please !!

Millfields, and all A180 petrol station, sightings in here please?

Players re-signing  - players resigning, new players appearing, advance  sightings... just no raw guesses, no ex too old players, at least have some form of reasonable source...... like Nolan's over the road neighbour seeing a house removal...... was it Roy Laughton's vans by the way ?? 😆😅🤣

Less time until pre season training, so let's get those spy eyes working hard !!

Don't you just love a good time of speculation ??

Does the above list also include ex Town players (who played in the PL) and have recently bought a house in the area. 😏

Let them go their own way.

As for ex players returning, I suspect theyll say never going back again, still it is a rumours thread and you will have it heard from someone else making it second hand news.

Quoted from 140381

Let them go their own way.

considering most returning players is like reading second hand news

If no rumours get put on here, the telegraph are well and truly rogered with a flagpole

There’ll be some more rumors on Monday Morning.

I’m so afraid that Fox won’t sign. If that happens it will be like the world turning on its axis and I don’t want to know

When we signing Bogle ?

Quoted from LondonMariner43

There’ll be some more rumors on Monday Morning.

I’m so afraid that Fox won’t sign. If that happens it will be like the world turning on its axis and I don’t want to know

Fox was excellent during the play-offs, but let’s be honest he struggled to nail down a starting place for a good chunk of the season didn’t he?

What was it 22 league starts and 10 substitute appearances from 44 regular season games? A bit of context… Giles Coke started 20 league games for us.

I hope he stays but it/when he leaves Hurst will find a more than adequate replacement because history tells us that’s what Hurst does.

Why are some posters saying Fox won't stay? He looked happier than anyone else at our promotion, and he would have next season to shine as a league player.

The money needs to be right, but all things considered he should re-sign.

He joined us when we were in non league so subject to contract you think he would be nailed on to stay now we are in the league.  There is always the chance he might be tempted away by a great offer somewhere but that applies to anybody out of contract.

Probably not a very popular opinion after the last few weeks but I thought Fox had been decent throughout the season but not a standout player. If the season had finished after Eastleigh I’d have been indifferent about him re-signing.

During the play-offs though he went to a completely different level, didn’t he. At least a level where he should be highly competent in League Two and now I’m left wanting to see more of the same. We’ve seen a glimpse of his full ability and it’s exactly what we want, just a shame others will be thinking the same who may have more to offer.

One thing that keeps me positive is how much he said loves the club after the final.

We’re going to be signing 2 new central midfielders even if Fox stays. You’d hope Hurst would be targeting upgrades on both Fox and Holohan.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

We’re going to be signing 2 new central midfielders even if Fox stays. You’d hope Hurst would be targeting upgrades on both Fox and Holohan.

I’d imagine Fox is key to his plans. He’s young with a lot of L1 experience.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

We’re going to be signing 2 new central midfielders even if Fox stays. You’d hope Hurst would be targeting upgrades on both Fox and Holohan.

I think you'd seriously struggle to get much of an upgrade on Fox in L2 when he's at his best.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Fox was excellent during the play-offs, but let’s be honest he struggled to nail down a starting place for a good chunk of the season didn’t he?

What was it 22 league starts and 10 substitute appearances from 44 regular season games? A bit of context… Giles Coke started 20 league games for us.

I hope he stays but it/when he leaves Hurst will find a more than adequate replacement because history tells us that’s what Hurst does.

Tbh I was only using Fox for some Fleetwood Mac puns…

Quoted from LondonMariner43

Tbh I was only using Fox for some Fleetwood Mac puns…

You'll have to go your own way then

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

You'll have to go your own way then

Big Love there Woz

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Big Love there Woz

All just Rumours

Quoted from mariner91

I think you'd seriously struggle to get much of an upgrade on Fox in L2 when he's at his best.

Yet Hurst signed Fox when we were a National League club?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’d imagine Fox is key to his plans. He’s young with a lot of L1 experience.

I don't think 19 starts & 17 substitute appearances constitute "a lot of L1 experience", but I'd say he got a decent grounding at that level without cementing a regular place at Burton.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Why are some posters saying Fox won't stay? He looked happier than anyone else at our promotion, and he would have next season to shine as a league player.

The money needs to be right, but all things considered he should re-sign.

He joined us when we were in non league so subject to contract you think he would be nailed on to stay now we are in the league.  There is always the chance he might be tempted away by a great offer somewhere but that applies to anybody out of contract.

to get back to rumours , Lincoln are apparently sniffing around. I presume he's based somewhere in the E. Midlands, so it'd be a step up and closer to home

I think as football fans we somehow hold players to an unrealistic standard on their career decisions. Fox is out of contract and can probably command much more money in League 1, potentially closer to home. As fans of the club we’d all obviously say stay, but if this was us in our own workplaces, most people on this board would rightfully take the move.

Fox went from a good team player to an un dropable in 3 play off games . He certainly did his negotiations no harm at all but Hurst isn't daft , he worked with him all season . He won't let 3 games sway the deal

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I don't think 19 starts & 17 substitute appearances constitute "a lot of L1 experience", but I'd say he got a decent grounding at that level without cementing a regular place at Burton.

Fair enough, but the fact that he had League 1 experience from 18 years of age puts him ahead of most non league players. Even in Macca's testimonial v Rotherham, he looked more comfortable than any other player in our squad.

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Big Love there Woz

As always mate,just wanna be with you everywhere

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

As always mate,just wanna be with you everywhere

Big Love and Everywhere were on Tango in the Night but I don't want to break The Chain.

Was told from a good source about the Lincoln interest quite a bit before the play offs

It's all down to how much we can afford to give him and how long a contract compared to what he can get elsewhere.

Can the wimps outbid us in the current climate?

Quoted from It Bites

Fox went from a good team player to an un dropable in 3 play off games . He certainly did his negotiations no harm at all but Hurst isn't daft , he worked with him all season . He won't let 3 games sway the deal

Fox has been class all season, his only wobble came when McAtee was out and Hurst tried to play him further forward which really didn’t work

Quoted from pontoonlew

Fox has been class all season, his only wobble came when McAtee was out and Hurst tried to play him further forward which really didn’t work

Very good point. On another note, Lincoln’s seat and ST prices are substantially higher than ours.

I'm hoping there is no truth in it but four clubs are chasing Mcatee, Peterborough, Bradford, Lincoln & Wrexham

Be a big loss if he is lured away

Quoted from Simon

I'm hoping there is no truth in it but four clubs are chasing Mcatee, Peterborough, Bradford, Lincoln & Wrexham

Be a big loss if he is lured away

Never quite sure who to believe as a few people say different but I was told by somebody who’s usually there or there about, that Fox and McAtee have already signed.    

Quoted from Simon

I'm hoping there is no truth in it but four clubs are chasing Mcatee, Peterborough, Bradford, Lincoln & Wrexham

Be a big loss if he is lured away

Would cost whoever it is a substantial sum as he’s under contract. If we lost him for silly money then that’s how it goes and I trust Hurst to replace properly.

Quoted from Simon

I'm hoping there is no truth in it but four clubs are chasing Mcatee, Peterborough, Bradford, Lincoln & Wrexham

Be a big loss if he is lured away

Well they’d have to pay a pretty decent fee I suspect as he’s under contract for another year, and potentially not available for start of season IF shoulder surgery is required as was suggested. Besides he may still be hungover until Xmas the way he’s partying ! He’s loved here, he’s been offered a new improved deal, we’re now at league two level and he’s obviously got a great relationship with hurst and Doig . I think he stays

Forest Green offered contract to Clifton is what i've heard.

Quoted from GhostDan

Never quite sure who to believe as a few people say different but I was told by somebody who’s usually there or there about, that Fox and McAtee have already signed.    

Fox 100% Has NOT

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Would cost whoever it is a substantial sum as he’s under contract. If we lost him for silly money then that’s how it goes and I trust Hurst to replace properly.

I would like to think that under the new owners we wouldn't get raped like we have in the past and if he were to go it would be for a realistic fee, he must be worth 500k plus add ons etc

Quoted from Simon

I would like to think that under the new owners we wouldn't get raped like we have in the past and if he were to go it would be for a realistic fee, he must be worth 500k plus add ons etc

Exploited?

I would imagine they might wait until there is a lull in ST sales then announce the signings of a few key players.

Quoted from drew peacock

Forest Green offered contract to Clifton is what i've heard.

That would be difficult to turn down but Clifton is not good enough for L1.

Quoted from mariner91

That would be difficult to turn down but Clifton is not good enough for L1.

All a matter of opinion. Would be hard for Harry to turn down a two or three year League 1 contract.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

All a matter of opinion. Would be hard for Harry to turn down a two or three year League 1 contract.

Absolutely, some may beg to differ. But he hasn’t established himself in his preferred position in a team that finished 6th in the NL and there’s been a few posts on here suggesting we need better out wide in L2 (which I agree with). He’s a great asset to have in our squad due to his energy, his work ethic and his selflessness to the cause but going up to L1 would be a step too far for him. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be sad to see him leave as I would be, I’d like to keep him.

Harry might be playing LG 1 football in a year anyway.😉

I think Clifton would slot seamlessly into a League 1 club.

Quoted from mariner91

Absolutely, some may beg to differ. But he hasn’t established himself in his preferred position in a team that finished 6th in the NL and there’s been a few posts on here suggesting we need better out wide in L2 (which I agree with). He’s a great asset to have in our squad due to his energy, his work ethic and his selflessness to the cause but going up to L1 would be a step too far for him. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be sad to see him leave as I would be, I’d like to keep him.

Couldn’t agree more and if we are serious at wanting to make the playoffs then Harry will be a squad player rather than first choice. IMO of course.

Quoted from mariner91

Absolutely, some may beg to differ. But he hasn’t established himself in his preferred position in a team that finished 6th in the NL and there’s been a few posts on here suggesting we need better out wide in L2 (which I agree with). He’s a great asset to have in our squad due to his energy, his work ethic and his selflessness to the cause but going up to L1 would be a step too far for him. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be sad to see him leave as I would be, I’d like to keep him.

He's been by far and away our most consistent performer in the last two seasons.
I suppose we won't know until he plays at that level, but he's been comfortable at every level he's played at.

Clifton is criminally under-rated IMO.

Clifton is the lower leagues James Milner, technically not the best in the  world but he has an outstanding engine and work ethic and can play numerous positions. I hope he signs a new contract.

Quoted from ginnywings

Clifton is criminally under-rated IMO.

I think he was, not so sure he still is. Many of us voted for him to be POTY.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

All a matter of opinion. Would be hard for Harry to turn down a two or three year League 1 contract.

The Forest Green manager is obviously the guy who was at Notts County, so he saw Harry put in some good performances in the latter part of the season.

Quoted from Teesknees

The Forest Green manager is obviously the guy who was at Notts County, so he saw Harry put in some good performances in the latter part of the season.

Burchnall is widely mocked for his shamelessly data-led approach. If he’s looking for a midfield engine and he’s got his spreadsheet sorted by yards run per game, there won’t be many higher up the list than our Harry.

Quoted from ginnywings

Clifton is criminally under-rated IMO.

Don’t often disagree with your opinion Ginny but I certainly do re Harry. Great work rate, great commitment but sadly not a great first touch, not a great passer of the ball and pretty poor in front of goal despite getting in great goal scoring positions.

Still life would be boring if we all had the same thoughts and opinions on players.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

He's been by far and away our most consistent performer in the last two seasons.
I suppose we won't know until he plays at that level, but he's been comfortable at every level he's played at.

Has he? Yet Hurst doesn't trust him enough to play him in the middle of Midfield?

I like him, but he needs to improve his decision making and he gives away the ball too much. He needs to learn how to look after the ball better.

Clifton certainly isn’t underrated by our fans, I’d go so far as to say it’s probably the other way. We all know what he brings and his work rate is superb but it’d be naive to say we don’t need better to challenge at the upper end of League 2. I’d be disappointed if we don’t have an actual left winger starting next season.

We've offered Harry Clifton a deal. It's up to him whether he signs or goes elsewhere.

If rumours about FGR are true he would only be human if he was tempted.

Now let me just say I like Harry. And there is no doubt he has improved each season. He is still young and can get better.

His biggest assets are his work rate commitment and versatility.

But for me there are areas of his game he needs to improve upon if he is to be an impact player at L2 or L 1.

The big one being more composed on the ball and when chances fall his way. Too often he seems to get rushed and gives the ball away cheaply or snatches at chances. I don't know if it's a lack of confidence or not.

He lacks that bit of pace to be a genuine wide player and seems better suited to a central role but Hursty doesn't seem to trust him in there at the moment..

I hope he stays but if he decides to go whilst we would miss his running he is not irreplaceable.

Whatever he decides I wish him well.

I’m pretty relaxed about who signs and who doesn’t. Some good players left the club over the course of the season; Towler, Hunt, Bapaga, Bell, (Callum) Jones. I don’t think there is a single instance whereby a suitable if not better alternative wasn’t found by Hurst.

Should there be leavers, we now have the opportunity to try and do the same, only this time with league status and a substantially reinforced budget to our name.

What will be will be. Stay cool.

Quoted from BottesfordMariner

We've offered Harry Clifton a deal. It's up to him whether he signs or goes elsewhere.

If rumours about FGR are true he would only be human if he was tempted.

Now let me just say I like Harry. And there is no doubt he has improved each season. He is still young and can get better.

His biggest assets are his work rate commitment and versatility.

But for me there are areas of his game he needs to improve upon if he is to be an impact player at L2 or L 1.

The big one being more composed on the ball and when chances fall his way. Too often he seems to get rushed and gives the ball away cheaply or snatches at chances. I don't know if it's a lack of confidence or not.

He lacks that bit of pace to be a genuine wide player and seems better suited to a central role but Hursty doesn't seem to trust him in there at the moment..

I hope he stays but if he decides to go whilst we would miss his running he is not irreplaceable.

Whatever he decides I wish him well.

I actually think it is more a case of Hurst not trusting some of the wingers he has had this season to do as disciplined a job as Clifton.

Quoted from Poojah

I’m pretty relaxed about who signs and who doesn’t. Some good players left the club over the course of the season; Towler, Hunt, Bapaga, Bell, (Callum) Jones. I don’t think there is a single instance whereby a suitable if not better alternative wasn’t found by Hurst.

Should there be leavers, we now have the opportunity to try and do the same, only this time with league status and a substantially reinforced budget to our name.

What will be will be. Stay cool.

Fair point, There’s names there that would start ahead of Harry.

Jason has said that the aim is to improve in every transfer window.

Hurst has released a fair number of players, so plenty of space to bring in new ones, all of whom will probably be L2 standard and above.

I am confident that the new squad will be even better than the one we ended the season with.

But I will always look back on that squad with great affection.

Quoted from RonMariner

Jason has said that the aim is to improve in every transfer window.

Hurst has released a fair number of players, so plenty of space to bring in new ones, all of whom will probably be L2 standard and above.

I am confident that the new squad will be even better than the one we ended the season with.

But I will always look back on that squad with a great affection errection .

Cliftons only 24 years old and all the attributes people are putting him down on are the ones that tend to get better with age, with good coaching and development hes 100% got the potential to play in league 1.

We are a much better team with Clifton in. He is in on merit, no sentiment and he would be a bad loss. He is underrated by many. 7/10 most games and could easily go higher. An excellent athlete with some talent and a great attitude. He can get better utm

Quoted from BottesfordMariner

We've offered Harry Clifton a deal. It's up to him whether he signs or goes elsewhere.

If rumours about FGR are true he would only be human if he was tempted.

Now let me just say I like Harry. And there is no doubt he has improved each season. He is still young and can get better.

His biggest assets are his work rate commitment and versatility.

But for me there are areas of his game he needs to improve upon if he is to be an impact player at L2 or L 1.

The big one being more composed on the ball and when chances fall his way. Too often he seems to get rushed and gives the ball away cheaply or snatches at chances. I don't know if it's a lack of confidence or not.

He lacks that bit of pace to be a genuine wide player and seems better suited to a central role but Hursty doesn't seem to trust him in there at the moment..

I hope he stays but if he decides to go whilst we would miss his running he is not irreplaceable.

Whatever he decides I wish him well.

He certainly doesn't lack pace, he was one of our quickest players last season, on top of a truly putstandihg engine. A phenomenal athlete, hard tackling , committed, ectremely versatile and well disciplined.

We would be much the poorer without him. Itsnot often that in today's modern game players can  be truly described as box to box midfielders who are able to do the defensive work,central work and attacking work. The high paced nature of the game makes it so much more difficult than the past, but Harry is a genuine box to box player even now.

With regard to Lincoln sniffing around Fox, have they even got a manager at the moment? And the coaching staff have left too. Reckon they’re odds on to go down myself.

Oh and Clifton is an immense player. Hope he signs

Quoted from 140381

With regard to Lincoln sniffing around Fox, have they even got a manager at the moment? And the coaching staff have left too. Reckon they’re odds on to go down myself.

My mistake, I see they’ve appointed the assistant manager of one of the worst Birmingham City sides ever. Nailed on to go down. I might actually put money on it.

Quoted from Simon

I'm hoping there is no truth in it but four clubs are chasing Mcatee, Peterborough, Bradford, Lincoln & Wrexham

Be a big loss if he is lured away

If we can get a big fee for him and a sell on clause then why not? We have a manager who knows how to find and pick players and a Chairman who will back him. As much as I love McAtee and think he has a huge upside and will continue to grow. No 1 player is bigger than the team.

I see the Lincoln fans are on  

Quoted from It Bites

Fox went from a good team player to an un dropable in 3 play off games . He certainly did his negotiations no harm at all but Hurst isn't daft , he worked with him all season . He won't let 3 games sway the deal

Fox has probably been our best player since he came back from injury. He's been been quality with Holohan. I would agree that he wasn't hitting those heights earlier in the season but other than the McAteeless slump I think he was still a level or two above good team player.

Quoted from Simon

I'm hoping there is no truth in it but four clubs are chasing Mcatee, Peterborough, Bradford, Lincoln & Wrexham

Be a big loss if he is lured away

Can't see Lincoln or Bradford spending the fee it would take now we're in the league. Would be surprised if Wrexham would too but who knows there, the more pertinent question is probably whether or not McAtee and Davies can work in the same team as Mullin and Palmer. Posh on the other hand, if they're in for him then we might well be facing a tough battle to keep him.

Quoted from Poojah

Burchnall is widely mocked for his shamelessly data-led approach. If he’s looking for a midfield engine and he’s got his spreadsheet sorted by yards run per game, there won’t be many higher up the list than our Harry.

Could be wrong, but I was under the impression that it is the Notts board that has the big computer that crunches the numbers and tells them which Portuguese maestro to sign and that Burchnall was just brought in and taught how to press all the buttons?

Quoted from Simon

I would like to think that under the new owners we wouldn't get raped like we have in the past and if he were to go it would be for a realistic fee, he must be worth 500k plus add ons etc

You are barmy if you think the club will sell McAtee for anything less than £1mil. If he signs a new contract this summer, I would double that at least.

I think you might need to get real.
We aren’t going to get a million for him, and certainly not 2 if he signs a new contract. Better for us if he does extend, but a lot will depend on if he wants to go to a club that might make an offer. 500K more likely I’d say. Maybe less.

I may be wrong but I don’t think anyone has ever paid £1M for a conference level player. Don’t get me wrong - he’s brilliant, and is a great age, but he is unproven at L2 level. I think he’s better than that and could play L1 or championship but just don’t see anyone shelling out that for him at this point.

Quoted from chaos33

I think you might need to get real.
We aren’t going to get a million for him, and certainly not 2 if he signs a new contract. Better for us if he does extend, but a lot will depend on if he wants to go to a club that might make an offer. 500K more likely I’d say. Maybe less.

Easily worth a million in todays market.

Quoted from Meza

Easily worth a million in todays market.

Absolutely.

I am sure the old regime would take three luncheon vouchers and a jar of pickled onions. No offer refused.

But the new owners are not so short sighted.  It will take a substantial offer and even then will only be considered if McAtee himself wants to move.

I believe the days of us being easy pickings are over.

Quoted from chaos33

I think you might need to get real.
We aren’t going to get a million for him, and certainly not 2 if he signs a new contract. Better for us if he does extend, but a lot will depend on if he wants to go to a club that might make an offer. 500K more likely I’d say. Maybe less.

I may be wrong but I don’t think anyone has ever paid £1M for a conference level player. Don’t get me wrong - he’s brilliant, and is a great age, but he is unproven at L2 level. I think he’s better than that and could play L1 or championship but just don’t see anyone shelling out that for him at this point.

Why certainly not if he signs a new deal? Signs a new deal and his value goes up. I reckon if we'd have stayed down it would have taken 300-400k. I think us going up adds a couple of extra 100k onto that in this window. Isn't he out for the first three months of next season now though? If so that'll see us through this window you'd have thought.

Time will tell who’s right, but I repeat …..has anyone ever paid £1M for a conference player? This is not what I think he’s worth, but what I think is likely. A six figure sum and a handsome sell on is more realistic in my view.

Quoted from chaos33

Time will tell who’s right, but I repeat …..has anyone ever paid £1M for a conference player? This is not what I think he’s worth, but what I think is likely. A six figure sum and a handsome sell on is more realistic in my view.

They have. Leicester for Jamie Vardy, though he’s quite clearly a special case (albeit, that was 10 years ago and prices have inflated since then).

Personally, I don’t think we’ll see a tempting bid for McAtee in the summer given that he has to recover from surgery and he might not be fully match fit until October. Given that, I think clubs will want to see how he goes at a level he’s failed to pull trees at previously before sticking in big money bids.

That seems the most pragmatic approach for potential suitor to take. I’d be staggered if we never saw John McAtee in a Town shirt again.

Quoted from chaos33

Time will tell who’s right, but I repeat …..has anyone ever paid £1M for a conference player? This is not what I think he’s worth, but what I think is likely. A six figure sum and a handsome sell on is more realistic in my view.

James Vardy for one

Yup

And let’s not forget where that transfer money would go…

McAtee technically aint a conference player anymore.  So yeah plenty of Lg2 players have gone for loads of money ask Exeter.

I want McAtee to stay for as long as possible but based upon what we’ve seen it’s inevitable.

All I hope is that he makes the right move for us in terms of a fee and for him as a player.

What a fee would look like is hard to say but the priority is to get him to sign an extension that would really change the dynamic of any deal.

Nice little story in yesterday’s NLP about how Coke and Lenny went over to a bar in Manchester owned by McAtee’s uncle and persuaded him to join last summer. That’s what Hurst means when he talks about influence off the pitch. Coke & Lenny might’ve just got us promoted!

Quoted from ska face

Nice little story in yesterday’s NLP about how Coke and Lenny went over to a bar in Manchester owned by McAtee’s uncle and persuaded him to join last summer. That’s what Hurst means when he talks about influence off the pitch. Coke & Lenny might’ve just got us promoted!

Wow, now that’s a story and a half

Quoted from 140381

And let’s not forget where that transfer money would go…

As regular as clockwork. Get a hobby ffs. One that you’re actually good at.

Quoted from 140381

As regular as clockwork. Get a hobby ffs. One that you’re actually good at.

Bit weird.

Quoted from Poojah

Bit weird.

Strong cider? Next stage is fighting yourself...

Any rumours?

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Next stage is fighting yourself...

Been there, done that, no cider needed, no fun at all

Story in the Telewag that Sam Winnall has been released by Oxford. They say that at 31, could he replace Taylor.

People actually think Mcatee is worth 1 million?

Absolutely no way

He wasn't even in the top 10 goal scorers last season

We all know how good he is and a full season without injury I'm sure he'll be amongst the top scorers in league 2, but let's get real hear. A striker not in rhe top 10 for a conference team would be lucky to get 200k, maybe 300k if the potential is clearly there.

Regardless of whether we are now a league 2 team he can only be valued on two things. Performances in the previous season in a lower league, and the value he has to the team he is with.

Grimsby may, and probably do value him much higher than his market value, but realisticly he's a top 15 conference scorer with 1 year left in his contract.

The beat thing we can do now is to give him a 3 year contract and a season to prove himself in the league. Maybe then he will be worth a million

Quoted from Grimsby2012

People actually think Mcatee is worth 1 million?

Absolutely no way

He wasn't even in the top 10 goal scorers last season

We all know how good he is and a full season without injury I'm sure he'll be amongst the top scorers in league 2, but let's get real hear. A striker not in rhe top 10 for a conference team would be lucky to get 200k, maybe 300k if the potential is clearly there.

Regardless of whether we are now a league 2 team he can only be valued on two things. Performances in the previous season in a lower league, and the value he has to the team he is with.

Grimsby may, and probably do value him much higher than his market value, but realisticly he's a top 15 conference scorer with 1 year left in his contract.

The beat thing we can do now is to give him a 3 year contract and a season to prove himself in the league. Maybe then he will be worth a million

Not really a striker though is he? He's a No 10, who can score and make goals. He affects the game not just in the box, but outside it too.

Not saying you are wrong about his value right now, but you seem to be judging him solely on his goal return.

He was instrumental in us winning at Wrexham for instance, despite only scoring 1 of the 5 goals.

Quoted from Grimsby2012

People actually think Mcatee is worth 1 million?

Absolutely no way

He wasn't even in the top 10 goal scorers last season

We all know how good he is and a full season without injury I'm sure he'll be amongst the top scorers in league 2, but let's get real hear. A striker not in rhe top 10 for a conference team would be lucky to get 200k, maybe 300k if the potential is clearly there.

Regardless of whether we are now a league 2 team he can only be valued on two things. Performances in the previous season in a lower league, and the value he has to the team he is with.

Grimsby may, and probably do value him much higher than his market value, but realisticly he's a top 15 conference scorer with 1 year left in his contract.

The beat thing we can do now is to give him a 3 year contract and a season to prove himself in the league. Maybe then he will be worth a million

He’s a game changer and a match winner. He’s also still only 22. Putting price tags on players heads is a bit bonkers but there’s only a few players at our level capable of doing what McAtee does.

Some interesting stuff to read in this thread. I will put my ten penneth in for what it's worth.

Having taken time to digest the in's and out's of the retained list, and considered those we have also made offers to for remaining, I would say that we have got a very very exciting few weeks ahead of us, watching which personnel Paul Hurst secures.

There is one thing you can say about Paul Hurst for sure, and that is that he has been consistently good at bringing players into our club, and that he has unearthed some gems along the way too. Plus, Paul's stock is very high out there at the moment in the world of professional football, and he wont have any shortage of very good players wanting to join him. Additionally, after the last few weeks of fantastic and exciting football on the TV in the play offs, I am sure there will be many players out there for who Grimsby would now be high up on their list of clubs that they would like to be at.

The club will benefit from all of the positive stuff that has happened recently, on the crest of a wave. And when you are on that crest of the wave, its important that you ride it well, and I have no doubt that we will.

So in summary, now isn't the time to get the jitters about any players that are leaving, or one that might attract the interest of a bigger club. Now is actually the time to be very excited about which players are about to join us, and I suspect there will be some very very good signings in the coming weeks.

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Some interesting stuff to read in this thread. I will put my ten penneth in for what it's worth.

Having taken time to digest the in's and out's of the retained list, and considered those we have also made offers to for remaining, I would say that we have got a very very exciting few weeks ahead of us, watching which personnel Paul Hurst secures.

There is one thing you can say about Paul Hurst for sure, and that is that he has been consistently good at bringing players into our club, and that he has unearthed some gems along the way too. Plus, Paul's stock is very high out there at the moment in the world of professional football, and he wont have any shortage of very good players wanting to join him. Additionally, after the last few weeks of fantastic and exciting football on the TV in the play offs, I am sure there will be many players out there for who Grimsby would now be high up on their list of clubs that they would like to be at.

The club will benefit from all of the positive stuff that has happened recently, on the crest of a wave. And when you are on that crest of the wave, its important that you ride it well, and I have no doubt that we will.

So in summary, now isn't the time to get the jitters about any players that are leaving, or one that might attract the interest of a bigger club. Now is actually the time to be very excited about which players are about to join us, and I suspect there will be some very very good signings in the coming weeks.

Totally agree, exciting times, I don’t believe there’s many better recruiters out there than Paul hurst. He’s meticulous, hard working and superb at spotting a player. With the new owners and record season ticket sales imminent, I can only imagine the budget is higher than it’s been for a very long time, and like you said, these televised games would of done us no harm in potential signings. I’d love the core to stay but I’m convinced we will sign a few gems in the coming weeks.

Quoted from DaleH

Some interesting stuff to read in this thread. I will put my ten penneth in for what it's worth.

Having taken time to digest the in's and out's of the retained list, and considered those we have also made offers to for remaining, I would say that we have got a very very exciting few weeks ahead of us, watching which personnel Paul Hurst secures.

There is one thing you can say about Paul Hurst for sure, and that is that he has been consistently good at bringing players into our club, and that he has unearthed some gems along the way too. Plus, Paul's stock is very high out there at the moment in the world of professional football, and he wont have any shortage of very good players wanting to join him. Additionally, after the last few weeks of fantastic and exciting football on the TV in the play offs, I am sure there will be many players out there for who Grimsby would now be high up on their list of clubs that they would like to be at.

The club will benefit from all of the positive stuff that has happened recently, on the crest of a wave. And when you are on that crest of the wave, its important that you ride it well, and I have no doubt that we will.

So in summary, now isn't the time to get the jitters about any players that are leaving, or one that might attract the interest of a bigger club. Now is actually the time to be very excited about which players are about to join us, and I suspect there will be some very very good signings in the coming weeks.

I couldn't have put it any better. Keep the squad and add to it with some quality for another promotion push. We're going places and all players want to be part of that formula.

UTM

I don't think McAtee would be valued at near a million at present, but let's hope he is following a productive season in the Football League.

As I mentioned during the play-off run, I think he was actually more effective playing with the shoulder problem as he wasn't getting into the argy bargy of play as much as usual and was instead letting his movement and ability do the talking. When he's recovered from his shoulder operation, he'll hopefully take this into account. Aggression is good to some degree but you're better off outplaying your opponents if you've got the ability to do so.

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Has he? Yet Hurst doesn't trust him enough to play him in the middle of Midfield?

Very silly statement, IMO. This notion that playing out wide is somewhat of a ‘lesser’ position is laughable. He’s played 44 games this season…does it matter that they’ve not all been in CM, just because that’s the position he first came through playing? Football has moved on, players are flexible and can play in various positions – it’s not Football Manager.

Also, its all about getting the best out of the squad you’ve got…Fox and Holohan compliment each other well in the middle, so why not utilise Harry’s attributes elsewhere? I’d argue that having the likes of Harry, Mcatee and to a lesser extent Sousa harassing from the front has been instrumental in our success.

Could he do better in front of goal? Well yeah…but 7 goals isn’t a bad return at all...it's better than some of our strikers in recent years.

When assessing McAtee allow for the fact that he is still only 22, still developing his basic fitness to complete 90 minutes frequently.  He was also subbed in all 3 critical playoff matches, despite being a key player.   Hurst said they are continuing to resolve his cramping issues.

He has tremendous energy but needs to use it more wisely. For the benefit of himself and the team.

Goals:  he had 2 long(ish) injury layoffs last season and a red card suspension.  With the capacity to play a lot more games he could have scored say 25 goals.  He is more than a goalscorer though, as identified above, he is that very valuable and rare breed - a scorer and creator of chances and goals.

Top players score very good goals - and in key games.  His goals at Wrexham was pure class, another just offside and another good shot just missed the post. He could easily have had a first half hat trick.

He is the heart and driving force of the team.  People are enthused to watch such an exciting player. He is a "cheeky chappie", a scallywag with mischief,  similar to Cantona was at United.  He brings more to the team than the individual aspects of his game.

Besides general improvement in his game, his decision-making and passing in the final third needs to improve.  A simple 10 yard pass to another player for a shot at goal can go way wide. Good coaching should fix these occasional rushes of blood.

Finishing on a positive.  Like his younger brother at City, he has good football pedigree. A good and quick brain.   At freekicks or throw ins, at the last second he can quickly dart into open space that he has found to receive the ball. Other players are not usually on the same wavelength though.

I think that he will improve next season at the higher level, and with bigger challenges.  Any valuation would be more accurate in a years time.