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can you give me some insights into a) was Clifton's miss as bad as it looked, or were there extenuating circumstances? b) what happened with Hudlin? was it a 'deliberate accident'? c) what happened when Waterfall and Newton (?) tangled at the far end, when it looked like the attacker might be through
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1) it looked like Hurst made us much wider in the 2nd half with Sousa/Amos/Cropper hugging the touchline as much as possible, which seemed to make us much more effective 2) did the commentators think that Hudlin's departure changed the game?
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A. Looked like it bounced higher than he could get his leg. Probably should have just f@#kin thrown himself at it. B. Smith was looking to head the ball. Hudlin came in from the side and won it. Accidental clash of heads. C. Waterfall just being stronger using his body. Not a foul.
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A) He should have scored, but it did bounce up at an awkward height. As previous poster said should have done a Mani. B) Thought it was a genuine challenge. But I would say that wouldn’t I? C) I was worried seeing that in real time, but the replay showed it was a bit of a non-event. No foul.
Sorry, was too stressed out by that stage to register any tactical adjustments. Was too busy shouting at the telly and jumping around the room.
Can’t remember the commentators making too much of Hudlin’s departure, but for the above reasons I may have missed it.
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The commentators did say they’d had to play differently without Hudlin. Personally,’for the first time since the start of the Wrexham game, I didn’t fear us conceding every time we gave away a corner.
Clifton - tough one - the ball bounced up high and he was too much off balance to bring it down.
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can you give me some insights into a) was Clifton's miss as bad as it looked, or were there extenuating circumstances? b) what happened with Hudlin? was it a 'deliberate accident'? c) what happened when Waterfall and Newton (?) tangled at the far end, when it looked like the attacker might be through
and 2 general questions
1) it looked like Hurst made us much wider in the 2nd half with Sousa/Amos/Cropper hugging the touchline as much as possible, which seemed to make us much more effective 2) did the commentators think that Hudlin's departure changed the game?
A) looked a little behind him when he took a swing at it B) Complete accident, tried to outjump a giant for a ball in the air and completely missed C) I really thought Waterfall had pulled another Waterfall at first but a complete none event on the replay 1) can't say I noticed too much at the time but thinking back thier wingbacks certianly got less of the ball in the second half, but i think them losing Hudlin made them more narrow as well. 2) Yes, they did a little mainly between the halves then during the game, but I thought they were spending more time talking about how good a football team Solihull were and refering us to only a setpiece and hoof ball hick team
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Some fans said that we should have had a clear pen. Did not see this at the match.
On the Solihull site there are strong rumours that Hudlin is to sign for Huddersfield. They are more bothered about losing their manager and other top players.
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Some fans said that we should have had a clear pen. Did not see this at the match.
On the Solihull site there are strong rumours that Hudlin is to sign for Huddersfield. They are more bothered about losing their manager and other top players.
Weren't you told to bring binoculars then... Neither did I; I watched the whole game when I got home last night and the McAtee one was a definite pen - BT commentators were really adamant - we didn't appeal much (enough) though, and our fans couldn't react because it was nearer to Southend than to us. The Cropper one was a bit of a leg tangle - if it was Wrexham it would have been given...BT view was - seen given but not sure.
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Stonewall penalty at 0-0 late challenge on McAtee stuffs to the ankle.
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The smith challenge was a strange one. I thought it was a 50/50 but others have said it was a foul. Whatever though, it changed the game. I felt for the lad because you could see what a state he was in when being taken off. Maybe football needs to have HIA assessments in place like rugby?
The mcatee penalty shout, for me was so obvious. One of thos that VAR was brought in for. Definite pen/red for me. Reckless and no control from their captain.
I reckon the Clifton chance was difficult as the ball upped off the surface a bit faster than he thought. Maybe if he’d ‘done a mani’ he may of scored.
Another key event Was the crocombe save. Brilliant save again from the kiwi and seemed to galvanise our defensive play/confidence
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The Clifton one was a difficult bounce but I think he still should have scored, it just needed contact from any body part and he managed to slice it. Hudlin injury looked like an accidental clash but can see why some may feel deliberate as he was the only thing we were struggling to cope with. They still had their top scorers on the pitch but they were kept relatively quiet for the most part.
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Definitely a penalty for McAtee Hudlin Smith was accidental Waterfall was lucky the ref didn't give us a pen or his challenge would of resulted in one , rightly or wrongly Crocombes first have save was world class
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Does anyone have any clips from bt sport of the post match reactions???
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At first I thought Clifton’s miss was a shocker but having seen it in slow mo the pass jumped up on him . Should have been along the deck .
Mcatee ‘tackle’ was very late and on the ankle , penalty all day long . (At least 3 penalties in the playoffs turned down for us )
Challenge on Clifton could have gone either way but you would have been gutted if it had been given against you
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I don’t think anybody around us in the ground saw the clear foul on Mcatee for penalty or was even vaguely aware of it I was suprised when saw it in n tv . So glad I not a West Ham fan.
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Clifton’s was a tragic miss : I had a fiver on him as first scorer!!
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If the Clifton one is the one I’m thinking of, he opened up his body to use his right foot rather than take it more naturally and from a better angle on his left
I think Smith was genuinely going for the ball, but the connection looked nasty, primarily because it was a solid connection between his upper head and Hudlins cheek due to the difference in height. I was amazed he initially played on, and thought it was very poor from a duty of care perspective. It was a pivotal point though.
The McAtee incident was a deffo pen, which the BT team all agreed on. They also suggested the refs view may have been blocked, and also the fact the ball was slipped to another Town player prior to the challenge there could’ve been an element of playing the advantage (though I’m not sure how that could be possible)
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Waterfall was “streetwise” enough to lean and tangle with Dallas rather than fully pull him back, he knew he was totally beaten for pace and had to do something, but he made it look like a 50/50 incident The Cropper pen shout, seen them given, but would’ve been “soft”, and unhappy if given against us
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If the Clifton one is the one I’m thinking of, he opened up his body to use his right foot rather than take it more naturally and from a better angle on his left
I think Smith was genuinely going for the ball, but the connection looked nasty, primarily because it was a solid connection between his upper head and Hudlins cheek due to the difference in height. I was amazed he initially played on, and thought it was very poor from a duty of care perspective. It was a pivotal point though.
The McAtee incident was a deffo pen, which the BT team all agreed on. They also suggested the refs view may have been blocked, and also the fact the ball was slipped to another Town player prior to the challenge there could’ve been an element of playing the advantage (though I’m not sure how that could be possible)
My assessment of the Clifton chance is same as yours, the cross wasn't the best , compare it to Maguire Drews ball across for Mcatee in the dying moments, but if he had gone left foot I think it would have cannoned in.
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Both Smith and Waterfall won some important headers, but I can’t help feeling the most important was the one Smith landed in Hudlin’s face.
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I've not seen a replay of the incident since the highlights on the screen at the game (before extra time) when I was a bit preoccupied with what was going to happen, but it looked to me that Clifton didn't try to get on top of the shot as he should have done. Something I think a more attacking player might have instinctively considered. An excellent finish for JMD's winner, for example, despite the fact that he was at full stretch to reach it.
It's why I think we need a specialist left-sided attacking player in that role next season, as well as Clifton has done much of the time.
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Are there any actual highlights anywhere?
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Are there any actual highlights anywhere?
Matchday moments is 40 minutes of bliss. Loved the scenes in the dressing room afterwards, and the shot of Pettit n Stockwood strolling back down the tunnel
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Thought the one on Cropper was a pen and the one on McAtee was a red!
Smith on Hudlin, I thought was a foul but completely accidental.
Waterfall, nowt in it for me Clive.
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