Chesterfield

Lee Camp..

Quoted from lukeo

Lee Camp..

..was good around the same time Anthony Church played for us?

Quoted from ginnywings

Nobody has yet mentioned the impending salary cap, which 1878 are in favour of. When that is introduced, the amount of clubs we could potentially outspend will fall to almost none, putting us on a par with more than just the Solihull's of the world.

I suspect some clubs are getting their spending in now, so their high earners will be taken at the league average and put them in a better position than teams who haven't spent big; at least it will for a couple of seasons until the contracts start to run down.

The days of Stockport and others signing league players for big bucks will come to an end, so I suspect they want to get out of this league pronto while they have the financial advantage over others.

To my mind, spending restrictions are a good thing, to stop clubs running up debt they can't afford, bit a one size fits all approach is just plain wrong. It should be a percentage of income.

What is the salary cap, in relation to our current wage bill, and how are matters like signing on fees etc handled?

So let me understand this. So, there a people on this message-board that are ….

1. Moaning because the new owners are not putting large amounts of their hard earned cash to sign more expensive players, in the way that teams like Chesterfield, Solihull Moors and Wrexham are.

2. People are now also suggesting that the managers public comments regarding the spending of other clubs, will cause a difficult situation between him and the new owners, as it isn’t a good look to be portraying.

Now, as I’m sure many of you will testify, there were people on this messageboard that tried to twist my words during the takeover, when I suggesting that not everything will be rosey after the buy out, and that it won’t be plain sailing, and that I’m sure there will come a time when the new owners will become criticised, even by those that were tapping away at their keyboards wearing rose tinted spectacles. It would seem that time is about now.

For those of you that ridiculed me and harassed me, I offer you this. As I’ve said on multiple occasions, I’ve never been against new ownership. Infact I was all for it. The points I was making was simply that, in your criticisms of John Fenty, and in your desires to want to see him leave, I was certain that it wouldn’t be long before some of the Fishy faithful would be commencing the sort of comments towards the new owners, that they did to John. Even in his earliest days. It seems I was right.

This is not a criticism to the genuine supportive fans with common sense. But for those of you, that know who you are…… if the cap fits

Quoted from Poojah

What is the salary cap, in relation to our current wage bill, and how are matters like signing on fees etc handled?

The details haven't been thrashed out yet, but a cap of £900,000 is being mooted. I don't know how that compares to our current spend.

The only details available are those that were put in place when it was brought in at EFL level. It covered wages, bonuses, signing on fees, agents fees, national insurance contributions and relocation costs.

The details of the National League cap will be discussed at the next board meeting, which last year was in June.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

So let me understand this. So, there a people on this message-board that are ….

1. Moaning because the new owners are not putting large amounts of their hard earned cash to sign more expensive players, in the way that teams like Chesterfield, Solihull Moors and Wrexham are.

2. People are now also suggesting that the managers public comments regarding the spending of other clubs, will cause a difficult situation between him and the new owners, as it isn’t a good look to be portraying.

Now, as I’m sure many of you will testify, there were people on this messageboard that tried to twist my words during the takeover, when I suggesting that not everything will be rosey after the buy out, and that it won’t be plain sailing, and that I’m sure there will come a time when the new owners will become criticised, even by those that were tapping away at their keyboards wearing rose tinted spectacles. It would seem that time is about now.

For those of you that ridiculed me and harassed me, I offer you this. As I’ve said on multiple occasions, I’ve never been against new ownership. Infact I was all for it. The points I was making was simply that, in your criticisms of John Fenty, and in your desires to want to see him leave, I was certain that it wouldn’t be long before some of the Fishy faithful would be commencing the sort of comments towards the new owners, that they did to John. Even in his earliest days. It seems I was right.

This is not a criticism to the genuine supportive fans with common sense. But for those of you, that know who you are…… if the cap fits

As you well know Phil, it's only a tiny fishy minority who criticize. The famous fishy 5, or was it 6?

Well that's what you lot used to claim anyway, so no need to worry.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

So let me understand this. So, there a people on this message-board that are ….

1. Moaning because the new owners are not putting large amounts of their hard earned cash to sign more expensive players, in the way that teams like Chesterfield, Solihull Moors and Wrexham are.

2. People are now also suggesting that the managers public comments regarding the spending of other clubs, will cause a difficult situation between him and the new owners, as it isn’t a good look to be portraying.

Now, as I’m sure many of you will testify, there were people on this messageboard that tried to twist my words during the takeover, when I suggesting that not everything will be rosey after the buy out, and that it won’t be plain sailing, and that I’m sure there will come a time when the new owners will become criticised, even by those that were tapping away at their keyboards wearing rose tinted spectacles. It would seem that time is about now.

For those of you that ridiculed me and harassed me, I offer you this. As I’ve said on multiple occasions, I’ve never been against new ownership. Infact I was all for it. The points I was making was simply that, in your criticisms of John Fenty, and in your desires to want to see him leave, I was certain that it wouldn’t be long before some of the Fishy faithful would be commencing the sort of comments towards the new owners, that they did to John. Even in his earliest days. It seems I was right.

This is not a criticism to the genuine supportive fans with common sense. But for those of you, that know who you are…… if the cap fits

You’re rapidly becoming a self-parody chum.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

For those of you that ridiculed me and harassed me, I offer you this. As I’ve said on multiple occasions, I’ve never been against new ownership. Infact I was all for it. The points I was making was simply that, in your criticisms of John Fenty, and in your desires to want to see him leave, I was certain that it wouldn’t be long before some of the Fishy faithful would be commencing the sort of comments towards the new owners, that they did to John.

You were about as keen on new ownership as a P&O purser with a petty cash imbalance.

Quoted from Fillipe Noche

So let me understand this. So, there a people on this message-board that are ….

1. Moaning because the new owners are not putting large amounts of their hard earned cash to sign more expensive players, in the way that teams like Chesterfield, Solihull Moors and Wrexham are.

2. People are now also suggesting that the managers public comments regarding the spending of other clubs, will cause a difficult situation between him and the new owners, as it isn’t a good look to be portraying.

Now, as I’m sure many of you will testify, there were people on this messageboard that tried to twist my words during the takeover, when I suggesting that not everything will be rosey after the buy out, and that it won’t be plain sailing, and that I’m sure there will come a time when the new owners will become criticised, even by those that were tapping away at their keyboards wearing rose tinted spectacles. It would seem that time is about now.

For those of you that ridiculed me and harassed me, I offer you this. As I’ve said on multiple occasions, I’ve never been against new ownership. Infact I was all for it. The points I was making was simply that, in your criticisms of John Fenty, and in your desires to want to see him leave, I was certain that it wouldn’t be long before some of the Fishy faithful would be commencing the sort of comments towards the new owners, that they did to John. Even in his earliest days. It seems I was right.

This is not a criticism to the genuine supportive fans with common sense. But for those of you, that know who you are…… if the cap fits

I'd suggest you're misunderstanding things. I don't think this is a scenario where fans are moaning the new owners aren't putting their own money into it, it's evident they have. The argument/concern/point was that Solihull have beaten us to the signing of a player PH wanted.

Nothing in what he said - please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm trying to recall from reading the thread earlier at work so could be completely wide of the mark- categorically states it's financial. It could be family related, location related or even that he has a relationship with the manager and wanted to play for him.

The new owners are a year (just?) into their tenure and already they've made so many changes that have been well received in terms of trying to improve the football club as a whole. I was never a Fenty-basher so to speak but it had become obvious to any man and his dog that he was maintaining the status-quo and doing nothing with the club, which in the modern game is effectively going backwards.....which we did.

The work 1878 are doing, once completed, has long lasting implications for the on-field development of the team and - in my opinion - making us more attractive to players but it will take time. It is impossible not only to judge the new owners yet but also to draw comparisons because I think you'd fall in a minority of one based on all the evidence so far if you landed on the Fenty side of the fence.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

It is impossible not only to judge the new owners yet but also to draw comparisons because I think you'd fall in a minority of one based on all the evidence so far if you landed on the Fenty side of the fence.

He's not going to bite the hand that fed him for all those years. It might also be the hand that kindly let him participate in the Chairmans Experience for the cost of £3000.