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promotion plaice
November 3, 2021, 10:52pm

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After it's initial teething problems can we all agree it was a good idea, I don't see many complaining about it now.

I was all for it from day one but many were against.



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Same camp as you promotion plaice. Always thought VAR was a good idea.

Some of the heartache football fans have witnessed over the years particularly in the world cup the greatest tournament on earth due to poor decisions should be minimised now.



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Nope, still hate it. Goal line yes, but VAR no.
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Like anything new introduced, there is going to be teething problems, some fear and resentment.  People generally do not like change.  After improvements to the system,  VAR was always likely to benefit the game.  Even if some spontaneity was lost.

Teething problems are always a big deal.  Certainly with babies.
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I can see what it's trying to add to the game but, call me old fashioned, I still can't get over the fact that you can score a last-minute winner, celebrate like mad, and then have that moment taken away from you - even if it's the correct decision.

So even a correct decision feels like it's somehow taking joy away from the game.

I can't criticise any governing body that tries to achieve 100% correct decisions. However, VAR will never be infallible due to the fact that it's operated by humans who, you know, make mistakes. Even when using technology.

When it comes down to it, I ask myself: as someone who loves going to matches in person, would I want VAR at Town games? While I appreciate everything that it offers, the answer is still 'no'.


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Never wanted it. Still don’t. It’s not going anywhere so I’ll just have to lump it!


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Quoted from RichMariner
I can see what it's trying to add to the game but, call me old fashioned, I still can't get over the fact that you can score a last-minute winner, celebrate like mad, and then have that moment taken away from you - even if it's the correct decision.

So even a correct decision feels like it's somehow taking joy away from the game.

I can't criticise any governing body that tries to achieve 100% correct decisions. However, VAR will never be infallible due to the fact that it's operated by humans who, you know, make mistakes. Even when using technology.

When it comes down to it, I ask myself: as someone who loves going to matches in person, would I want VAR at Town games? While I appreciate everything that it offers, the answer is still 'no'.


As a concept I’m fine with it provided it’s used sparingly for genuine clear and obvious errors. If used correctly, it shouldn’t affect the spontaneity of celebrations, which was clearly an issue in its early execution in the Premier League.

Look at it in a Town context. Had it been present in those games, Scott Neilson doesn’t get sent off at Gateshead and Will Puddy does get sent off for Bristol Rovers at Wembley. Our history, and our present,  could have been very different.

I’m sure we’ve benefited from bad refereeing decisions, though they’re less memorable the other way round, but I can’t think of any of the magnitude of those two in the play-offs.

It’s had its flaws, but it’s improving and it’s probably right to stick with it so long as we’re sensible.


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Whilst it's overseen by humans there will always remain inconsistencies and some benefit, some not.


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I'm sure one day VAR will have some sort of AI element that can immediately determine offsides and other binary decisions, which will address most of the concerns about spontaneity.  Some may not like the idea of the game being partially refereed by a robot, but it's coming.  I was unsure about VAR at first but I like the fact that I now rarely finish watching a Premier League game feeling like the wrong team won due a refereeing howler.  
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