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Kick-off delayed until 2pm due to traffic congestion.
Team news: Hunt and Bapaga start
Team news is in, and Town's two new signings both start as Alex Hunt and William Bapaga are given the nod by Paul Hurst.
TOWN: McKeown, Efete, Waterfall, Pearson, Crookes, Revan, Coke (c), Hunt, Bapaga, Sousa, McAtee.
Subs: Crocombe, Sears, Longe-King, Fox, Spokes, Adlard.
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3 centre halves with Efete and Revan wing backs?
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3 centre halves with Efete and Revan wing backs?
4 3 3/ 4 5 1? revan and sousa on the wing, 3 in midfield? guess we will see soon enough |
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Gavin Gunning not in the Chesterfield squad today
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This is such a weird pre season game…like I get why we’re playing but a week to the season starting and playing a potential competitor…not sure I’d be flying in to a tackle etc…
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Feck me, that was 30 yards out, and McKeown was almost in line with it.
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Don't miss a chance to moan about McKeown as with every season. The defence went to sleep and left so much room for that shot to be lined up. 30 yards out and nobody anywhere near him.
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Don't miss a chance to moan about McKeown as with every season. The defence went to sleep and left so much room for that shot to be lined up. 30 yards out and nobody anywhere near him.
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Macca is on form. Great start for our flapper!
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The criticisms of Macca when it’s not his fault but desire to call him out is comedy sometimes…
The guy was 30 yards out and McKeown was almost inline with the shot, instead of taking one step to the right and catching the ball, he decided to dive one handed for it and didn't make a good contact with it. FYI, I don't dislike McKeown but a lot of people on here think he is gods gift' which he isn't. |
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Macca is on form. Great start for our flapper!
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I know it's only a friendly but it looks like we've got a lot to do if we're to have anything like a decent start to the season.
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Easy peasy 2 nil down. Crookes was useless, never mind a No9 we need a defence and quick.
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Garbage Defending
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Is anyone other than Hurst bothered? Pre season has taught me many things over the years but the main one being that it doesn’t often mean intercourse all…
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Is anyone other than Hurst bothered? Pre season has taught me many things over the years but the main one being that it doesn’t often mean intercourse all…
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Is anyone other than Hurst bothered? Pre season has taught me many things over the years but the main one being that it doesn’t often mean intercourse all…
I actually stopped attending pre season games almost entirely over the years from my teens. Always found the games a bit boring and prefer to see a more complete team when the season starts. There will be lessons from this game as there will be every game along with showing the effects of injury issues to key players. Nothing up for grabs but bragging rights for fans and everything resets next week when the season starts. The last pre season game I attended in person before not bothering much again was an incredibly dull game against Bradford, was nice to see Aidan Davison who signed for them at the time but apart from that it was a snore fest. |
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But a week before the season starts? My concern has always been that we aren’t ready, and we aren’t.
Says who? Based on what? What does ready look like? They’re just opinions based on nothing…you only have to look at pre season results for all teams…all over the place. They’re irrelevant…results mean absolutely nothing. Managers swap and change and play about…that’s the point. Hardly a a great way to decide if someone is ready or not… |
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Who scored for Town?
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I actually stopped attending pre season games almost entirely over the years from my teens. Always found the games a bit boring and prefer to see a more complete team when the season starts. There will be lessons from this game as there will be every game along with showing the effects of injury issues to key players. Nothing up for grabs but bragging rights for fans and everything resets next week when the season starts.
The last pre season game I attended in person before not bothering much again was an incredibly dull game against Bradford, was nice to see Aidan Davison who signed for them at the time but apart from that it was a snore fest.
I tend to go just Becauee I enjoy watching live football but I can’t get excited about them, nor do I lose my mind or read anything in to them… |
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Appalling live feed! It was expensive at £10
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Better by Town though.
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Judging from the comments about the stream I’m not sure anyone other than folk there will have a clue what’s going on…
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Been a lot better in the last fifteen minutes. Actually been getting hold of the ball in midfield and running at them. Hunt looks like he could be quite a classy player. Not seen much out of Bapaga yet
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Says who? Based on what? What does ready look like?
They’re just opinions based on nothing…you only have to look at pre season results for all teams…all over the place.
They’re irrelevant…results mean absolutely nothing. Managers swap and change and play about…that’s the point. Hardly a a great way to decide if someone is ready or not…
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While Macca must take some responsibility for the first goal we must remember that there were 4/5 others in front of him who couldn't be bothered to make a tackle and just watched the attacker T the ball up. Same for the second really, the ball comes in Crookes fails to deal with it and it's in the net.
Yes, it is pre-season, and not being able to watch our goal, and can only say we don't look good. Corners not working, nor free kicks, in the few attacks we had. Nothing much in midfield to stand out and the defence is more like a sieve.
It may sound critical but trying to find some pluses is hard this half. The new guys need more time to gel but the rest have been together for a few weeks now. In fact, my thought on the first 20+ is was there no better than last season.
I hope the second half gives us more to be optimistic about.
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As I’ve said on several occasions, I’m happy to be wrong. It seems like no one is prepared to think of the effects of a long term stay in this league, notably by way of a salary cap and the future of the youth programme.
What are the effects? Surely the long term effects of staying in the same league, any league for a while has its issues? We’ve no idea how long we’ll be down here. The league is either easy to get out of nor is it full of trams that will be battered. The state the club was in and is still in to some extent won’t be changed overnight and anyone sensible is probably expecting at least 2 seasons down here… |
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There energetic midfield overun us at time particuarly exposing Coke although Hunt looks a prospect. We looked like a team with 8 new players in it for the first half hour but improved as the half wore on and the system was tweaked. This is what friendlies are for - no need to panic.
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Longe-King on for Pearson, Crocombe on for Macca.
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Pre season has taught me many things over the years but the main one being that it doesn’t often mean intercourse all…
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Revan hit crossbar we look more of a threat now after a slow start to the game
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This is far better....Cmon Town.
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Hunt looks a good player, gopd on the ball always feel like he has more time on the ball than the others.
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I think this tells us what we already new if we're honest. They have a squad good enough to win this league and we've got a lot of work ahead of us to be considered probable's rather than possibles for promotion.
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The first 20 mins of this half has been far better than than the first half. We seem to have found our mojo, effort, application, and looking like a promising team. What a large difference since Longe king came on. Hunt is looking good and the attack/midfield seems to be firing. Sousa's shot on target and Waterfall's shot in the box gives us hope.
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Waterfall picks up a yellow, do these cards count for the National League games?
A Notts County player has been given a straight red in their friendly against Solihull Moors.
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I think this tells us what we already new if we're honest. They have a squad good enough to win this league and we've got a lot of work ahead of us to be considered probable's rather than possibles for promotion.
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Really ? Think we've had the chances to at least equalise to be honest
Then hopefully we can sign a number 9 who is a good finisher! |
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Then hopefully we can sign a number 9 who is a good finisher!
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Really ? Think we've had the chances to at least equalise to be honest
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Mid table at best with this squad . I’m sorry but waterfall and Pearson are just not good enough.
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How many points do you get for chances created ?
Same amount as you Get for winning a friendly |
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Same amount as you
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You still go out to win though |
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How many points do you get for chances created ?
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I see all the same faces that only post when we lose a game are here. So many on this board trying to challenge Tim Mickleburgh for the title of legendary local moaner.
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Apart from the 1st 20 mins there hasn't been that much difference between the two teams. Given Chesterfield are supposed to be one of the favourites for promotion, and we've literally thrown almost a complete new squad together then that gives me some hope that we will be able to compete at the top end of the table.
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Pretty even game to be honest we had chances to equalise but there keeper made a couple of good saves, pre season all about fitness tatics and pretty happy seeing as they are one of the favourites.
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Well that was pretty uninspiring. Not helped by the excrement streaming by chesterfield. It is only pre season though, and we have a fair few injuries so going hell for leather would not have been a good idea in my opinion. 2-1 fair result and we looked a threat for the start of the second half. That's it then, onto the season. I would love nothing more than a number 9 we can all cream over but if it doesn't happen in the next week I shall keep the utmost faith in Hurst and the boys. Moaning about a pre season friendly and writing us off in the process is absolutely embarrassing, please don't. UTM
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Anyone arsed? No…thought not…not important is it really…
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Apart from the 1st 20 mins there hasn't been that much difference between the two teams. Given Chesterfield are supposed to be one of the favourites for promotion, and we've literally thrown almost a complete new squad together then that gives me some hope that we will be able to compete at the top end of the table.
Totally agree with you, you took the words out of my mouth. I think there is optimism for the future, and promotion. Efete, longe-King, and Hunt looked good. We miss someone upfront and when the No9 is filled, along with the return of Taylor and the shop we should have the attacking power we need. |
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Well that was pretty uninspiring. Not helped by the excrement streaming by chesterfield. It is only pre season though, and we have a fair few injuries so going hell for leather would not have been a good idea in my opinion. 2-1 fair result and we looked a threat for the start of the second half. That's it then, onto the season. I would love nothing more than a number 9 we can all cream over but if it doesn't happen in the next week I shall keep the utmost faith in Hurst and the boys. Moaning about a pre season friendly and writing us off in the process is absolutely embarrassing, please don't. UTM
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Quite meh in the end, shocking defending in 1st 20 mins, was Macca having a kip? Picked up just before we scored and looked decent going forward but most chances came from corners. 2nd half ok for 10 mins then looked like we went to 3 at the back and although this pretty much nullified Chesterfield along with other subs we made, removed any attacking threat we had. Hunt looks a good player, lots of people worked hard, lack of a real centre forward showed at times and also a lot of overhit throughballs negated some good 1st half build up. Musn't start with that back 4 again or we will concede goals for fun.  |
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You have just moaned about a pre-season friendly! It was pretty uninspiring according to you. Is it only you that can comment negatively then?
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That's correct mate. Just me, I am the lord. No.
I said it was pretty uninspiring but cited the streaming quality as part of that. Then went on to explain its a pretty nothing affair and that ill have faith in those boys come what may. Calm down buddy.
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You also asked people not to post anything negative. It is not up to you. People can post what they like, when they like in accordance with the forum rules.
If anything people have been far too supportive for far too long, not enough questioning about what is going on.
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Friendlies are not usually indicative of league form. Bayern Munich have lost all their pre-season friendlies. I don’t see them struggling not to be champions again.
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I think this tells us what we already new if we're honest. They have a squad good enough to win this league and we've got a lot of work ahead of us to be considered probable's rather than possibles for promotion.
So we lose 2-1 after a sloppy start and from what I’ve read it’s been an even-ish game and yet you say one team is potential title winners and we are also rans who are some way off promotion.... |
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You also asked people not to post anything negative. It is not up to you. People can post what they like, when they like in accordance with the forum rules.
If anything people have been far too supportive for far too long, not enough questioning about what is going on.
Please clarify where I asked people not to post anything negative? What I said was moaning about a pre season friendly AND writing us off in the process is embarrassing, please don't. And it is embarrassing. Thanks |
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Mad to see the ones who slated fans for moaning last pre-season having the audacity to have a pop again this time given the catastrophic events last season.
I’m personally not bothered about results in friendlies but if there are warning signs in pre-season people are quite entitled to share them if they want.
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Somewhat surprised that one of the two missing strikers did not make a token appearance. Clearly the attack would be much better with one of them to hold up the ball But really we don’t have a cat in hells chance do we unless there is a credible threat up front?
I do find it amazing that we sign 2 veteran strikers and neither of them will complete a full pre-season. Even when they are fit to train it will be weeks before they are up to speed.
By the time all this “bad luck” is sorted, the early season fixture jam could be over with us well adrift of the pacemakers.
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Apparently us moaners aren’t allowed to voice our opinion that we don’t look ready.
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I wonder if a few scouts would have been in attendance today for a game against 2 league rivals.
I think we will have a striker in the 16 next weekend. Whether that is Taylor, LJL or a new one.
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Apparently us moaners aren’t allowed to voice our opinion that we don’t look ready.
Best close the Fishy down if we aren’t allowed an opinion Rob.
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Please clarify where I asked people not to post anything negative? What I said was moaning about a pre season friendly AND writing us off in the process is embarrassing, please don't. And it is embarrassing. Thanks
You have just repeated it. What is embarrassing is for certain posters to think any negative opinion is not valid. If some people moaned about a pre-season friendly (as you did) and as a result came to the conclusion that we will not trouble the pacesetters then that is their opinion. A forum is all about opinions. Without opinions we would not have a forum, would we? I don't mind that a poster just called me the chief bedwetter or some such, if that is his opinion then so be it. |
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I wonder if a few scouts would have been in attendance today for a game against 2 league rivals.
I think we will have a striker in the 16 next weekend. Whether that is Taylor, LJL or a new one.
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what Shirt number was Hunt and Bapaga? I am assuming Bapaga was number 7
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I’m happy to be classified as a moaner. I prefer to think of it as wanting the best for the club. Surely it should be acceptable to hold people to account?
It is perfectly acceptable to hold people to account and I've agreed with much you've posted over the years, I think we've tended to think alike on a lot of things, but I think some need to take a step back, we've had quite a few negative threads on here in the last couple of weeks. I think it's far far to early to tell. Honestly I think people need to have a touch more reality about where we are. We're going into a season where one team is owned by a guy worth hundreds of millions, while in contrast our new owners task is equivalent to attempting to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. Top 7 is fine and the squad I think looks there or there abouts to me. |
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I’m happy to be classified as a moaner. I prefer to think of it as wanting the best for the club. Surely it should be acceptable to hold people to account?
Where do we have to be after 10 games, by Christmas or at the end of the season for you to be content? If we have 5 points after 5 games will you want Hurst out? |
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My view on todays game is I think were going to have to be patient with this team. Judging by this forum some have it some dont. At times we looked a team with 8 new players in it and at times we showed promise. If Chesterfield are one of the favourites then I am reasonably happy that I think there is a lot more to come from us particuarly once our injuries are resolved. Hunt can be well pleased with his debut and there were some other decent performances. Getting the right balance will be a challenge for Hurst but I am encouraged with the fact that when it clicks it could be encouraging. The big question is when though.
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My view on todays game is I think were going to have to be patient with this team. Judging by this forum…
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Good pre season run out no points at stake , hunt looks decent waterfall played well so did efete & longe king crocombe , not sure see best of mcatee untill we get a no9 next to him , wingers a bit light weight but it chezzy are favs we haven't got alot to be worried about
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Good pre season run out no points at stake , hunt looks decent waterfall played well so did efete & longe king crocombe , not sure see best of mcatee untill we get a no9 next to him , wingers a bit light weight but it chezzy are favs we haven't got alot to be worried about
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Where do we have to be after 10 games, by Christmas or at the end of the season for you to be content?
If we have 5 points after 5 games will you want Hurst out?
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Mid table at best . Sorry that’s not a rose tinted prediction but the reality that a lot of seasoned fans are predicting .
I think we'll more likely do a bit better than that.. Having read this thread.. what I find remarkable is that many of the posters that are complaining about negativity from certain fans are the same ones who preach patience and we shouldn't expect to get promoted at the first attempt, de facto being as negative as the negative posters they're self-importantly chastising.. |
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What a ridiculous comment. I want us back in the league as soon as possible. I’m also mindful that it’s not going to be easy. If we have 5 points after 5 games, we could be 10 behind.
Behind what? Top spot? It’s barely relevant. We ain’t winning the league this season. We’ve signed 15 players already with more to come. Anyone with hopes or expectations of us taking the title needs to get that idea out of their head quickly. It’s not realistic. We came into this league in a sorry, sorry old state, and we’re not going to turn that around in a matter of months. I’ve read posts on here citing how imperative it is to get back up this season given looming salary caps etc. and they’re completely valid. But none of that makes the challenge of getting out of this league any easier - we were utterly dysfunctional last season and that carries into this one. If anything, it makes it harder as clubs in far better shape than us reach the same conclusion and set out to make this their last season in the abyss. Kick and scream all you want. We might make the playoffs this season. We might not. Probability says we won’t go up at the first attempt. This isn’t happy clapping, if there are glaring errors in the running of the club or the performance of the team then they should 100% be called out, but the frustration and anger at where we find ourselves, and will likely remain for at least a little while, shouldn’t be channeled at those currently in charge of the club or those on the pitch.at this moment in time. |
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Behind what? Top spot? It’s barely relevant.
We ain’t winning the league this season. We’ve signed 15 players already with more to come. Anyone with hopes or expectations of us taking the title needs to get that idea out of their head quickly. It’s not realistic.
We came into this league in a sorry, sorry old state, and we’re not going to turn that around in a matter of months. I’ve read posts on here citing how imperative it is to get back up this season given looming salary caps etc. and they’re completely valid. But none of that makes the challenge of getting out of this league any easier - we were utterly dysfunctional last season and that carries into this one.
If anything, it makes it harder as clubs in far better shape than us reach the same conclusion and set out to make this their last season in the abyss.
Kick and scream all you want. We might make the playoffs this season. We might not. Probability says we won’t go up at the first attempt. This isn’t happy clapping, if there are glaring errors in the running of the club or the performance of the team then that should 100% be called out, but the frustration and anger at where we find ourselves and will likely remain for at least a little while shouldn’t be channeled at those currently in charge of tI he club or those on the pitch.
I love it. Bollockings from the sanctimonious who don’t seem to want us to be ambitious. In terms of league standing and the future ticket sales at the club, we need success. Football is what is important. The fluffy stuff is lovely but it doesn’t win football matches. Sorry if this doesn’t cut it with many but I’m all for a scrappy 1-0 on a quagmire if that’s what’s needed. |
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He’s not being sanctimonious. He’s being realistic. You can choose how you want to respond to the world. But just as you have a right to moan other people have a right to have a go at you.
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He’s not being sanctimonious. He’s being realistic. You can choose how you want to respond to the world. But just as you have a right to moan other people have a right to have a go at you.
That’s fair enough. The irony, as Bigdog says, is that those accusing the likes of me as being negative, appear to have written this season off. |
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I love it. Bollockings from the sanctimonious who don’t seem to want us to be ambitious. In terms of league standing and the future ticket sales at the club, we need success. Football is what is important. The fluffy stuff is lovely but it doesn’t win football matches.
Sorry if this doesn’t cut it with many but I’m all for a scrappy 1-0 on a quagmire if that’s what’s needed.
I’d argue the ‘fluffy stuff’ is more important than what happens on the pitch. It goes back to what we all consider to be success. It’s unlikely that without crazy levels of investment we will ever be higher than L1. We will never get into the Premier League. We will never play in Europe. We are unlikely to win a major cup. What we can do is create a club that we are proud of supporting. It might sound ridiculous but (sadly and nostalgically) you won’t attract new, young fans by having to wear gaiters at the urinals and allowing female fans to be frisked for feminine hygiene products at the turnstiles. |
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Behind what? Top spot? It’s barely relevant.
We ain’t winning the league this season. We’ve signed 15 players already with more to come. Anyone with hopes or expectations of us taking the title needs to get that idea out of their head quickly. It’s not realistic.
We came into this league in a sorry, sorry old state, and we’re not going to turn that around in a matter of months. I’ve read posts on here citing how imperative it is to get back up this season given looming salary caps etc. and they’re completely valid. But none of that makes the challenge of getting out of this league any easier - we were utterly dysfunctional last season and that carries into this one.
If anything, it makes it harder as clubs in far better shape than us reach the same conclusion and set out to make this their last season in the abyss.
Kick and scream all you want. We might make the playoffs this season. We might not. Probability says we won’t go up at the first attempt.
This isn’t happy clapping, if there are glaring errors in the running of the club or the performance of the team then they should 100% be called out, but the frustration and anger at where we find ourselves, and will likely remain for at least a little while, shouldn’t be channeled at those currently in charge of the club or those on the pitch.at this moment in time.
We all have our expectations. Personally I expect to see continuous improvement and us finish the season stronger than we start it. You can say Hurst was here for half of last season and that is correct but the players available to him in January were much more limited than the summer for one reason or another. That brings us on to the summer recruitment. The vast majority of our team are new signings so it is going to take time for the team to gel. Aside from promotion, if we get to the end of this season needing only a few new signings we will have done alright I think. |
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What a ridiculous comment. I want us back in the league as soon as possible. I’m also mindful that it’s not going to be easy. If we have 5 points after 5 games, we could be 10 behind.
Not a ridiculous comment but several genuine questions. Just trying to ascertain how long into the season before you will be sharpening your knife. |
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I’d argue the ‘fluffy stuff’ is more important than what happens on the pitch.
It goes back to what we all consider to be success.
It’s unlikely that without crazy levels of investment we will ever be higher than L1.
We will never get into the Premier League. We will never play in Europe. We are unlikely to win a major cup.
What we can do is create a club that we are proud of supporting. It might sound ridiculous but (sadly and nostalgically) you won’t attract new, young fans by having to wear gaiters at the urinals and allowing female fans to be frisked for feminine hygiene products at the turnstiles.
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That’s fair enough. The irony, as Bigdog says, is that those accusing the likes of me as being negative, appear to have written this season off.
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Sorry. I’m not having that. If the prime ambition of a football club is not football success then you’ve lost me.
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Nobody's writing anything off, if we get into the play-offs that's a decent season, once we land in that mix we have as good a chance as anyone.
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Sorry. I’m not having that. If the prime ambition of a football club is not football success then you’ve lost me.
‘Football success’ on the pitch is unsustainable without improvements off the pitch (training facilities, ground, fan engagement etc). No fan will ever be satisfied with what happens on the pitch. Most are addicts who will always want and expect more. |
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I think we'll more likely do a bit better than that..
Having read this thread.. what I find remarkable is that many of the posters that are complaining about negativity from certain fans are the same ones who preach patience and we shouldn't expect to get promoted at the first attempt, de facto being as negative as the negative posters they're self-importantly chastising..
Exactly. Most of us are being negative because we know without a goalscorer (the most important part of the jigsaw) we won't be competitive enough. However, it seems a different type of negativity as long as you say we should expect it! Why? Why should we accept being unable to match the other big hitters in this league as we enter the final week of the close season without a recognised striker? I thought new owners would mean embarrassing situations like this would not arise. |
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Behind what? Top spot? It’s barely relevant.
We ain’t winning the league this season. We’ve signed 15 players already with more to come. Anyone with hopes or expectations of us taking the title needs to get that idea out of their head quickly. It’s not realistic.
We came into this league in a sorry, sorry old state, and we’re not going to turn that around in a matter of months. I’ve read posts on here citing how imperative it is to get back up this season given looming salary caps etc. and they’re completely valid. But none of that makes the challenge of getting out of this league any easier - we were utterly dysfunctional last season and that carries into this one.
If anything, it makes it harder as clubs in far better shape than us reach the same conclusion and set out to make this their last season in the abyss.
Kick and scream all you want. We might make the playoffs this season. We might not. Probability says we won’t go up at the first attempt.
This isn’t happy clapping, if there are glaring errors in the running of the club or the performance of the team then they should 100% be called out, but the frustration and anger at where we find ourselves, and will likely remain for at least a little while, shouldn’t be channeled at those currently in charge of the club or those on the pitch.at this moment in time.
Plenty of clubs have signed new teams and done very well. What is the point of signing 15 and more players if you don't think they can do the business??! Hurst has now signed two and a half teams since December - surely to God we can expect some decent return from that lot. |
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I’d argue the ‘fluffy stuff’ is more important than what happens on the pitch.
It goes back to what we all consider to be success.
It’s unlikely that without crazy levels of investment we will ever be higher than L1.
We will never get into the Premier League. We will never play in Europe. We are unlikely to win a major cup.
What we can do is create a club that we are proud of supporting. It might sound ridiculous but (sadly and nostalgically) you won’t attract new, young fans by having to wear gaiters at the urinals and allowing female fans to be frisked for feminine hygiene products at the turnstiles.
We wont attract ANY new fans unless we have success on the pitch. Nobody gives monkeys about feminine hygiene products regarding football, but they do care about results and success on the field. Off field improvements are important but success on the field is the key to really moving forward as a club. |
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Exactly. Most of us are being negative because we know without a goalscorer (the most important part of the jigsaw) we won't be competitive enough. However, it seems a different type of negativity as long as you say we should expect it!
Why? Why should we accept being unable to match the other big hitters in this league as we enter the final week of the close season without a recognised striker? I thought new owners would mean embarrassing situations like this would not arise.
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Some negative fans on here. Maybe just maybe hurst was being careful not to increase the injury tally with the season starting next week 🤔
Are they moaning or just voicing an opinion of what they have seen? I was there, I thought the first 35 minutes we looked poor especially in defence and without much threat up front. Start of the second half we looked better but the game deteriorated into passing the ball around without much penetration. I do wonder if we have a squad that will challenge the top spot, only time will tell. |
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Plenty of clubs have signed new teams and done very well. What si the point of signing 15 and more players if you don't think they can do the business??!
Hurst has now signed two and a half teams since December - surely to God we can expect some decent return from that lot.
I would be very interested to hear about the 'plenty' of teams who have signed 15 new players and been successful. |
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‘Football success’ on the pitch is unsustainable without improvements off the pitch (training facilities, ground, fan engagement etc).
No fan will ever be satisfied with what happens on the pitch. Most are addicts who will always want and expect more.
Without success on the pitch "fan engagement" will turn to dust. Success on the pitch is the key to unlocking everything else. The recent improvements are most welcome, but of course they have only brought us up to the most basic standard enjoyed by most other clubs of our size. It will be interesting to see what the longer term plans are for the training facilities, new stadium/redevelopment of BP if we are to make real strides in the off field race. |
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Are they moaning or just voicing an opinion of what they have seen?
I was there, I thought the first 35 minutes we looked poor especially in defence and without much threat up front.
Start of the second half we looked better but the game deteriorated into passing the ball around without much penetration. I do wonder if we have a squad that will challenge the top spot, only time will tell.
I don’t think any rational Town fan thinks we currently have a squad to challenge for the only automatic promotion place. If you asked Hurst, Stockwood and Pettit, off-the-record, they would probably admit the same thing. It’s not being defeatist. It’s not being unambitious. It’s just the practicalities of being run terribly for years and having to revamp virtually the whole squad (January was a fire fighting exercise in a desperate, weird pandemic market that still exists to a lesser degree this summer, against the backdrop of last summer’s bizarre recruitment exercise). If people think being short of a goalscorer is an embarrassment then they need to recalibrate their Richter scale because it’s barely a chandelier swinger. |
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Without success on the pitch "fan engagement" will turn to dust.
Success on the pitch is the key to unlocking everything else.
The recent improvements are most welcome, but of course they have only brought us up to the most basic standard enjoyed by most other clubs of our size.
It will be interesting to see what the longer term plans are for the training facilities, new stadium/redevelopment of BP if we are to make real strides in the off field race.
I’m confused? So are you wanting the club to invest heavily in ‘off field’ things or not? You moaned about the fact only things that really matter is on field success yet you’re looking forward to off field stuff. Surely we’ve already attracted more fans? We find it selves once again in the shite, the club in a mess and in the footballing abyss yet we’ve sold more season tickets than the year we went up. Now we can all provide a good explanation as to why we didn’t capitalise that year but nevertheless, we still didn’t shift 3000… Perhaps you’re not realising the influence new owners with fresh ideas and club with a vision and plan can have… |
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Our height of ambition is the play offs? Maybe?
I feel slightly upset that we’ve bought 4 season tickets if that’s the case.
We haven't won a title in almost 50 years, if your expecting a title then you need to give your head a wobble. That's not me being unambitious, just realistic. |
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Plenty of clubs have signed new teams and done very well. What is the point of signing 15 and more players if you don't think they can do the business??!
Hurst has now signed two and a half teams since December - surely to God we can expect some decent return from that lot.
Name me ‘plenty of teams’ that had to recruit circa 15 players during pre-season and went on to win promotion and I’ll gladly stand down. With hindsight, I think Hurst got a fair bit wrong in January. But he inherited absolute chaos, so will cut him a little bit of slack on that front. |
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I've assessed the squad and watched a couple of games. I'm being very rational in thinking if Hurst can sign a striker and a better centre half than SP or LW, I can't see any reason why we can't have a right go at top spot if a settled first eleven gels together quickly. It doesn't take that long sometimes and we've made some cracking signings, Just need both ends of the pitch improving and we won't be far away..If we don't make the signings, we could be quite a way short as the shortcomings are currently quite significant. A couple of astute signings could make all the difference. Last time I checked, Bayern Munich, PSG and Atletico Madrid aren't down to be playing in the National League this season, so there's not too much to fear in reality..
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I’d argue the ‘fluffy stuff’ is more important than what happens on the pitch.
It goes back to what we all consider to be success.
It’s unlikely that without crazy levels of investment we will ever be higher than L1.
We will never get into the Premier League. We will never play in Europe. We are unlikely to win a major cup.
What we can do is create a club that we are proud of supporting. It might sound ridiculous but (sadly and nostalgically) you won’t attract new, young fans by having to wear gaiters at the urinals and allowing female fans to be frisked for feminine hygiene products at the turnstiles.
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I’m confused? So are you wanting the club to invest heavily in ‘off field’ things or not? You moaned about the fact only things that really matter is on field success yet you’re looking forward to off field stuff.
Surely we’ve already attracted more fans? We find it selves once again in the shite, the club in a mess and in the footballing abyss yet we’ve sold more season tickets than the year we went up. Now we can all provide a good explanation as to why we didn’t capitalise that year but nevertheless, we still didn’t shift 3000…
Perhaps you’re not realising the influence new owners with fresh ideas and club with a vision and plan can have…
I don't see why you are confused. Off-field stuff is important but the most important thing is what happens on the field. You need both, but I don't see enough determination to succeed on the playing side when we are as low as the 5th tier. I expected us to shift more season tickets to be honest, after the totally disastrous Fenty regime. I think some fans have held back (including my long-standing season ticket) from renewing until they see some real investment in players (strikers) that will make a difference. We have been talking about a mythical "marquee signing" since Adam was a lad, yet here we are still unable to secure any of our number one targets as our main goalscorer with the number 9 shirt still not filled. At this stage of the new owners' regime, I would have put securing a striker (and yes you have to pay good money to get one in demand) over the application for some no doubt important but secondary employment accreditation, which might get us a nice article in the Guardian but will do little to get us out of the NL. The truth is I detest the NL. I thought we could and should have done a lot more when Hurst came in December to avoid the drop, as it would have made things so much easier. I think he was lucky to remain in his job after making a difficult situation even worse. I can only comment on things as I see them; if Hurst pulls off a miracle and the owners have made the right calls then fair enough but I genuinely thought this would be our best chance of bouncing straight back with parachute payments, player sales and most of the other clubs in a bit of a mess due to last seasons shenanigns. |
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Are they moaning or just voicing an opinion of what they have seen?
I was there, I thought the first 35 minutes we looked poor especially in defence and without much threat up front.
Start of the second half we looked better but the game deteriorated into passing the ball around without much penetration. I do wonder if we have a squad that will challenge the top spot, only time will tell.
I watched the match and agree with you, a brilliant post summarising the game. With regard to the No.9 shirt, I seem to recall on the Pearson signing video we were shown shots of Boreham Wood. It would appear that we may have been after that striker then, but his price of £250k is ridiculous for this league. Having the No.9 shirt empty could mean that Hurst has the same problem filling it as he did creating a team last January. He has identified his targets but they don't want to come, which could be the reason why we haven't an out and out striker. |
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I know its a forum and we should debate etc but can't we all just enjoy the fact live football is back and we can get back to watching our club again..
Let's have this panic and discussion in January! - it's all, hyperthetical worrying anyway.
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At this stage of the new owners' regime, I would have put securing a striker (and yes you have to pay good money to get one in demand) over the application for some no doubt important but secondary employment accreditation, which might get us a nice article in the Guardian but will do little to get us out of the NL.
Now, I’m not someone who’s going to sit here and moan at people for being negative. I accept their concerns. But the above argument is getting tedious. It’s not the owners job to sign a striker. Signing a striker shouldn’t be in their list of priorities. They set a budget and leave it up to hurst. And no, before you say it, the fact we haven’t signed a striker doesn’t mean hurst has got a shite budget. The reality is, none of us know what the budget is. Clearly the budget was healthy considering the size of our squad even excluding those players out in the wilderness. If we fail to sign a striker, that’s down to hurst and until it’s revealed otherwise that we actually didn’t have that good of a budget, this whole argument is pointless. |
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Now, I’m not someone who’s going to sit here and moan at people for being negative. I accept their concerns.
But the above argument is getting tedious. It’s not the owners job to sign a striker. Signing a striker shouldn’t be in their list of priorities. They set a budget and leave it up to hurst. And no, before you say it, the fact we haven’t signed a striker doesn’t mean hurst has got a shite budget. The reality is, none of us know what the budget is. Clearly the budget was healthy considering the size of our squad even excluding those players out in the wilderness. If we fail to sign a striker, that’s down to hurst and until it’s revealed otherwise that we actually didn’t have that good of a budget, this whole argument is pointless.
This. it is the owners job to give Hurst a Budget and it is up to Hurst to sign players as he seems fit within the budget set, Hurst has stated previously he is happy with the budget and no his comment about "working to a budget" doesn't indicate we have a excrement budget, it indicates we don't have an unlimited budget as no club at this level can! |
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The vast majority of our team are new signings so it is going to take time for the team to gel.
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Yay! Well done James. I'm amazed it took so long for this old excuse to be rolled out !
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Gelling issues are genuine at the beginning of the season especially when a squad has been overhauled. What we cant be doing is saying the same things in October/November time, then it is just an excuse!
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How is it that anyone disagreeing with the doom mongers, in even the mildest terms, are suddenly trying to ‘silence’ others or shout them down? Same victim mentality that seems to follow them about.
You can have endless discussions about everything that’s wrong with the team, but the merest suggestion that things might not actually be so bad, or a matter of life & death, or a sacking issue after 5 games, and YOU’RE irrational.
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A few of us have asked for a number of examples of teams that have signed 15+ players and gone on to achieve promotion.
There aren't many...
I am sure there are. It is the modern trend in football, especially in the lower leagues when players are on short term contracts. Player churn is inevitable at a lot of clubs. Most of the players on our books now are on short term contracts so stability is unlikely. Those who do well will attract interest elsewhere especially if we don't go up so the idea of hanging on to our best players for a few seasons till we get the team we would like is fanciful. It is actually unusual to see many clubs having a longer-term plan at all - so many managers lose their jobs when success does not arrive quickly enough, a new manager comes in wanting his own players, so out with the old and in with the new to see if the right balance can be found. Since December Hurst has already done this twice, so he must have some faith in it. He chose not to try to get the best out of Holloways team which did include some good players but they had been let down; he thought he could do better by bringing in basically another team of "his" players. That did not work so he has had another go at it so if it doesn't work again why does he continue to keep doing it? Lets hope he hits on the right formula, but if the budget is not top notch for the low level we are at he will always struggle a bit. |
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If you look at the predictions thread on this forum the vast majority think we'll finish in the play-off places. I tend to agree with this.
If the four or five posters on here, who seem hell bent on the idea that it's automatic promotion this season or the club is forever doomed, want to set themselves up for a season of disappointment and moaning then leave them to it.
Personally I'm just looking forward to a season where we will win more than we lose - which will be quite a novelty compared to the last five seasons in the football league.
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As far as 'gelling' is concerned I think most of our more recent recruits have settled well. Efete, Longe King, Crookes, Fox, McAtee and Sousa seem solid and Revan looks a most adaptable squad player. Hunt was impressive from the kick off.
Hurst may bemoan the injury list but Grant, Lenny, Taylor, Scannell, Wright etc. are already beginning to weigh heavy on our backroom resources. Whoever else is brought in, preferably a goalscorer, will have athleticism/fitness as a given. We look to be setting up as a counterattacking side away from home so pace is as important as finishing skills.
Will Bapaga fluffed his lines a bit by going to ground too easy and losing possession. I am sure Doig will be in his ear if he tries too many flicks and tricks in his own half. He deserves another chance but from the bench.
It was puzzling to see how much prep Macca got before the game compared to Crocombe who seemed to be treated like the new Battersby as ball fetcher.
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I expect us to start modestly, even slowly, given the amount of turnover in players and the fact we are light up top. I think we'd do well to get a point at Bromley.
Hurst should be given a little leeway and as I say most seasons, it takes about 10 to 12 games for a side and the league in general to settle down.
I do think though, that given our resources, we should be challenging for a play off spot come the end of the season. If we're not, then for me, the manager isn't doing a very good job with what he has to work with. Hurst has the experience and knowledge: he has the financial backing not afforded to most teams in this league, so all the tools are there.
I'm not sure how many players the Cowleys signed at Lincoln, but they turned that team around from mediocre to league champions in short order. It can be done.
I just get the feeling that the board is happy for steady progress and rebuilding the foundations of the club, whilst a lot of fans are expecting an all out assault. I would love us to rip through this league, but I dont think it will happen. I would put our chances of being back in the league next season as pretty slim; ever hopeful as I am.
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We all know that it will be Hurst Out if we get off to a sluggish start
IE: 10 mins 1-0 down v Bromley
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If you look at the predictions thread on this forum the vast majority think we'll finish in the play-off places. I tend to agree with this.
If the four or five posters on here, who seem hell bent on the idea that it's automatic promotion this season or the club is forever doomed, want to set themselves up for a season of disappointment and moaning then leave them to it.
Personally I'm just looking forward to a season where we will win more than we lose - which will be quite a novelty compared to the last five seasons in the football league.
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Mid table at best . Sorry that’s not a rose tinted prediction but the reality that a lot of seasoned fans are predicting .
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Exactly. Most of us are being negative because we know without a goalscorer (the most important part of the jigsaw) we won't be competitive enough. However, it seems a different type of negativity as long as you say we should expect it!
Why? Why should we accept being unable to match the other big hitters in this league as we enter the final week of the close season without a recognised striker? I thought new owners would mean embarrassing situations like this would not arise.
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Why all this over thinking??
Let's get the fans back into BP, play our part and see where it takes us.
I for one can't wait to get my bottom back on my seat in the lower and cheer the lads on.
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I don't see why you are confused. Off-field stuff is important but the most important thing is what happens on the field. You need both, but I don't see enough determination to succeed on the playing side when we are as low as the 5th tier.
I expected us to shift more season tickets to be honest, after the totally disastrous Fenty regime. I think some fans have held back (including my long-standing season ticket) from renewing until they see some real investment in players (strikers) that will make a difference. We have been talking about a mythical "marquee signing" since Adam was a lad, yet here we are still unable to secure any of our number one targets as our main goalscorer with the number 9 shirt still not filled.
At this stage of the new owners' regime, I would have put securing a striker (and yes you have to pay good money to get one in demand) over the application for some no doubt important but secondary employment accreditation, which might get us a nice article in the Guardian but will do little to get us out of the NL.
The truth is I detest the NL. I thought we could and should have done a lot more when Hurst came in December to avoid the drop, as it would have made things so much easier. I think he was lucky to remain in his job after making a difficult situation even worse.
I can only comment on things as I see them; if Hurst pulls off a miracle and the owners have made the right calls then fair enough but I genuinely thought this would be our best chance of bouncing straight back with parachute payments, player sales and most of the other clubs in a bit of a mess due to last seasons shenanigans.
My guess is that there are not many 'marquee strikers' out there who want to sign for a team in the 5th tier of the league. Those that probably were on PH's list are probably all signed up by now, but we don't know the ins and outs of what contracts players wanted, or even if they wanted to come to Grimsby. As has been said before, there are numerous reasons why a recruitment will fail, and not all football reasons. I'm sure PH has done his best, and will continue to search for that elusive number 9. |
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Are these the same people who were saying we were too good to be relegated last season?
Hardly, they are doom merchants who will always be predicting the worst - regardless of the situation the club is in. |
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Hardly, they are doom merchants who will always be predicting the worst - regardless of the situation the club is in.
Last season, the writing was on the wall by November. Let’s just hope mid table mediocrity isn’t by this November. |
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I feel sorry for the fans that have gone out and got season tickets thinking that we will be going for it , And yes i know that the new owners have never said that . but most got carried along with the thought of new owners and more cash for players and going for it so we are not stuck down here in tin pot league. Hurst has had more than enough time to get a no 9 in and the rest of the squad and has failed in that department so far , How many will be thinking why have i spent cash to watch a mid table side , i know i would have . If we do not get up with the front runners this season there will be a lot less splashing there cash next season .
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Do you want to tell us what “going for it” is then? As opposed to “really going for it”, or “going out to win”? Or how you know why most people have bought season tickets?
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I bought a season ticket purely because I wanted to be back at BP. Anyone with half a brain realises this is a consolidation season. Top ten finish will do me. The following season is a different matter.
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I feel sorry for the fans that have gone out and got season tickets thinking that we will be going for it , And yes i know that the new owners have never said that . but most got carried along with the thought of new owners and more cash for players and going for it so we are not stuck down here in tin pot league. Hurst has had more than enough time to get a no 9 in and the rest of the squad and has failed in that department so far , How many will be thinking why have i spent cash to watch a mid table side , i know i would have . If we do not get up with the front runners this season there will be a lot less splashing there cash next season .
I still can't believe that some people people think recruitment is like shopping. See something on a shelf, pick it up, pay for it, it's yours. I have said this many times before, and this is the second time today. There are numerous reasons why you cannot sign the players you want, and not all of them are football reasons. We just have to hope that PH can get lucky pretty quickly, if he can't sign a number 9, there is always the loan market. |
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Are these the same people who were saying we were too good to be relegated last season?
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Exactly what 'embarrassing situations' are you talking about?
Is that a serious comment? It is embarrassing that we signed two strikers who straightaway went off the be best friends with Dave Moore. Neither is going to be much use until next month at the earliest. That is embarrassing. It is embarrassing that we have no other striker after all this time. Plenty of other bodies, some look pretty reasonable but after all these months still no striker. Is one going to miraculously appear from the heavens on a freebie or a loan? It is the piece of the jig sw that really does matter or the results are gaining to have a lot 70% in the possession stats and a lot of zeros in th Grimsby goals column. If that is not embarrassing I don’t know what is. |
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I bought a season ticket purely because I wanted to be back at BP. Anyone with half a brain realises this is a consolidation season. Top ten finish will do me. The following season is a different matter.
Consolidation in non league? Really? |
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Last season, the writing was on the wall by November. Let’s just hope mid table mediocrity isn’t by this November.
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Is that a serious comment?
It is embarrassing that we signed two strikers who straightaway went off the be best friends with Dave Moore. Neither is going to be much use until next month at the earliest. That is embarrassing.
It is embarrassing that we have no other striker after all this time. Plenty of other bodies, some look pretty reasonable but after all these months still no striker. Is one going to miraculously appear from the heavens on a freebie or a loan?
It is the piece of the jig sw that really does matter or the results are gaining to have a lot 70% in the possession stats and a lot of zeros in th Grimsby goals column.
If that is not embarrassing I don’t know what is.
That’s a weird and inaccurate point of view. Firstly, we have signed two centre forwards in this window McAtee and Taylor. Only one of these has been injured. This is not massively unusual or in the least bit embarrassing. If signing a “marquee” centre forward early in the window is the panacea to all problems, then why did we struggle when Jolley signed Hanson and Matt Green early on? |
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Consolidation in non league? Really?
Have you been in space for the last two years? |
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Have you been in space for the last two years?
No. But you apparently have. In the last few games played in the 19/20 season, we looked ok as a mid table L2 club. |
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That’s a weird and inaccurate point of view. Firstly, we have signed two centre forwards in this window McAtee and Taylor. Only one of these has been injured. This is not massively unusual or in the least bit embarrassing.
If signing a “marquee” centre forward early in the window is the panacea to all problems, then why did we struggle when Jolley signed Hanson and Matt Green early on?
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No. But you apparently have. In the last few games played in the 19/20 season, we looked ok as a mid table L2 club.
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Glad nothing’s happened since then.
I’m not saying it hasn’t! The problems at the club date back much further though. But to say you’re ok with mid table consolidation in non league before a ball has been kicked is far more negative than anything I’ve posted. |
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I’m not saying it hasn’t!
The problems at the club date back much further though. But to say you’re ok with mid table consolidation in non league before a ball has been kicked is far more negative than anything I’ve posted.
There’s a huge gulf between negativity and realism. My comment falls within the latter. You’ve admitted the club has long standing problems, not even taking into consideration the absolute disaster of last year. And yet you still think there’s a magic wand we can wave. The club was completely on its bottom, on and off the pitch. At times, I thought there was a real possibility we could go straight through the conference. Rebuilding is a massive project. It will take more than one summer. Yeah, I’ll take 10th. |
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Is that a serious comment?
It is embarrassing that we signed two strikers who straightaway went off the be best friends with Dave Moore. Neither is going to be much use until next month at the earliest. That is embarrassing.
Not embarrassing, just bad luck, injuries happen to ALL clubs.
It is embarrassing that we have no other striker after all this time. Plenty of other bodies, some look pretty reasonable but after all these months still no striker. Is one going to miraculously appear from the heavens on a freebie or a loan?
See my other posts about recruiting, it's obviously not easy, but is NOT embarrassing
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It is the piece of the jig saw that really does matter or the results are gaining to have a lot 70% in the possession stats and a lot of zeros in the Grimsby goals column.
I don't even understand what you are trying to say in the above sentence.
If that is not embarrassing I don’t know what is.
You obviously don't.
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Joel Grant and Ryan Taylor could be classified as strikers, I’m not sure you would include McAtee.
He scored two goals in 2 games. |
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It is embarrassing that we signed two strikers who straightaway went off the be best friends with Dave Moore. Neither is going to be much use until next month at the earliest. That is embarrassing.
How is that embarrassing? It’s far from ideal and really quite inconvenient but embarrassing? Injuries happen, such is life. |
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He scored two goals in 2 games.
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Embarrassing is what Cod Almighty have exposed in the Fenty Years . The injuries are simply bad luck. As someone else said Matt Green and James Hanson were marquee signings Hurst has said that there's a lack of players in that area of th market, and i'd far rather him take his time and get the right man in instead of spending ashed load of money on someone who's not right (it's easily done - see below) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sp.....-Donny-van-Beek.html |
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Blimey! Alan Pouton scored hat tricks but was never a striker. John Cockerill, Joe Waters and others would often score in consecutive games.
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So 2 goals in 2 games isn't good enough for you! No wonder people have a go at you on this forum.
2 goals in 3 games after yesterday is good but mcatee is still not a striker in a proper no9 role , he more a creative no10 but i expect he will chip in with goals , i really rate him |
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We haven't won a title in almost 50 years, if your expecting a title then you need to give your head a wobble.
That's not me being unambitious, just realistic.
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So 2 goals in 2 games isn't good enough for you! No wonder people have a go at you on this forum.
I wasn’t aware that Rob is running a popularity contest. Those with a memory will remember my dislike of the previous regime. I’ve got the PMs to prove it. I like a lot of what the owners are doing but what pisses me off is the lack of ambition for this season. Some people are happy for a mid table non league finish. I’m not sure that will cut it with many of the 3000 season tickets |
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I thought there was a real possibility we could go straight through the conference.
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Have you been in space for the last two years?
I remember watching some games thinking the forwards were last season except we had a shite midfield |
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Joel Grant and Ryan Taylor could be classified as strikers, I’m not sure you would include McAtee.
Not sure I agree with that. But if you are going to class an inside forward as a striker then why discount Sousa (another inside forward similar to Grant) from the argument? You can’t just pick two forwards and say the only two we signed got injured immediately and say that’s embarrassing if you’re not including all the forwards. |
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Embarrassing is what Cod Almighty have exposed in the Fenty Years . The injuries are simply bad luck. As someone else said Matt Green and James Hanson were marquee signings Hurst has said that there's a lack of players in that area of th market, and i'd far rather him take his time and get the right man in instead of spending ashed load of money on someone who's not right (it's easily done - see below) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sp.....-Donny-van-Beek.html
This is my thing; people clamouring for a forward…remember when Matt Green signed? Everyone was buzzing but in truth, he was a woeful signing. I liked the bloke but he was a waste of time really. The stuff Cod Almighty have published is nothing new and was readily available, but fans chose to ignore it…that’s embarrassing… The fact this thread is now going around in circles with the vast majority realising pre season games mean excrement all and people stating the obvious, we need a striker… |
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Our height of ambition is the play offs? Maybe?
I feel slightly upset that we’ve bought 4 season tickets if that’s the case.
I bought my season ticket because I'm a fan. Promotion via the play offs would be unbelievable, automatic even better, but if we finish bottom, I'll still be a fan and will buy another season ticket next season. |
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I wasn’t aware that Rob is running a popularity contest.
Those with a memory will remember my dislike of the previous regime. I’ve got the PMs to prove it.
I like a lot of what the owners are doing but what pisses me off is the lack of ambition for this season. Some people are happy for a mid table non league finish.
I’m not sure that will cut it with many of the 3000 season tickets
I believe that when the new owners came in that they said it would take time to get GTFC to where they, and us, want it to be. I have no worries about next season. I would like to think that we can consolidate the teams position in the NL with the 14 new players we have signed but I also will take any place in the League as long as it doesn't get us relegated again. That would be a disaster! |
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I bought my season ticket because I'm a fan. Promotion via the play offs would be unbelievable, automatic even better, but if we finish bottom, I'll still be a fan and will buy another season ticket next season.
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I wasn’t aware that Rob is running a popularity contest.
Those with a memory will remember my dislike of the previous regime. I’ve got the PMs to prove it.
I like a lot of what the owners are doing but what pisses me off is the lack of ambition for this season. Some people are happy for a mid table non league finish.
I’m not sure that will cut it with many of the 3000 season tickets
Just wondering who it is you think you’re speaking for? In one post you’ve claimed to speak for the board, management and squad in saying they’ve no ambition, then claimed to speak for others in saying they’re happy in mid-table, then gone on to assume you speak for 3000 season ticket holders. Have a bit of humility. You speak for yourself, and you’re just one ársehole, like the rest of us on here, with an opinion. Don’t try and ventriloquise others to strengthen a pretty weak argument. |
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This is my thing; people clamouring for a forward…remember when Matt Green signed? Everyone was buzzing but in truth, he was a woeful signing. I liked the bloke but he was a waste of time really.
The stuff Cod Almighty have published is nothing new and was readily available, but fans chose to ignore it…that’s embarrassing…
The fact this thread is now going around in circles with the vast majority realising pre season games mean excrement all and people stating the obvious, we need a striker…
Fully agree with this. Same could be said for James Hanson too. From memory most of the higher profile strikes we’ve brought in have been at best average (Hannah, Brodie, Jennings, Vernon, Cook, Clark - I’m sure there are loads more). Aside from Bogle most of our better recent strikers came in with little fanfare. |
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Just wondering who it is you think you’re speaking for?
In one post you’ve claimed to speak for the board, management and squad in saying they’ve no ambition, then claimed to speak for others in saying they’re happy in mid-table, then gone on to assume you speak for 3000 season ticket holders.
Have a bit of humility. You speak for yourself, and you’re just one ársehole, like the rest of us on here, with an opinion. Don’t try and ventriloquise others to strengthen a pretty weak argument.
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Fully agree with this. Same could be said for James Hanson too. From memory most of the higher profile strikes we’ve brought in have been at best average (Hannah, Brodie, Jennings, Vernon, Cook, Clark - I’m sure there are loads more).
Aside from Bogle most of our better recent strikers came in with little fanfare.
Not just recently. Think of a major "marquee" striker signing in the last 50 years that has scored goals and been a success? I can't think of any. Tees was high profile for GTFC but for any other team, their fans would be asking why have we signed this stream of urine! Lee Ashcroft was moderate to poor and we sold him for a loss. Others like Jimmy Gilligan were shite. Our great successes as signings have been taking a punt from non-league, signings from local clubs for relatively modest fees - Jack Lewis, Mendonca Hobson, Donovan and Kilmore, or players like Woods Tony Rees, Reddy and Amond who had not really done anything special anywhere else. Our other great strikers have been home grown - Drinkell Wilkinson Ford... |
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To be fair, Mendonca went on to be a great success elsewhere. Can’t remember what we got for him.
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To be fair, Mendonca went on to be a great success elsewhere. Can’t remember what we got for him.
We paid alot less for him than Lee Ashcroft. Probably alot lower wages. I lived in Preston when we signed Ashcroft and knew friends of his - he said he didn't really want to go to Grimsby but the money was too good to turn down. There was Birtles as well who was high profile but we didn't pay anything for him. One other point - Holloway had the chance to sign a player who might just have got enough goals to keep us up, but he said he was shite - Ryan Loft. Only 9 goals last season but in a hopeless team - a few goals in all those draws when we were edging the possession stats might have been enough for us. And he played 43 games unlike our sick notes... |
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Not just recently.
Think of a major "marquee" striker signing in the last 50 years that has scored goals and been a success? I can't think of any. Tees was high profile for GTFC but for any other team, their fans would be asking why have we signed this stream of urine!
Lee Ashcroft was moderate to poor and we sold him for a loss. Others like Jimmy Gilligan were shite. Our great successes as signings have been taking a punt from non-league, signings from local clubs for relatively modest fees - Jack Lewis, Mendonca Hobson, Donovan and Kilmore, or players like Woods Tony Rees, Reddy and Amond who had not really done anything special anywhere else. Our other great strikers have been home grown - Drinkell Wilkinson Ford...
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To be fair, Mendonca went on to be a great success elsewhere. Can’t remember what we got for him.
£750k wasn’t it? The sale of Mendonca and Oster really paved the way for our 97/98 squad - easy to forget we spent over £1m in transfer fees, a figure I doubt we’ve ever been close to matching either before or since. Money well spent though. |
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£750k wasn’t it? The sale of Mendonca and Oster really paved the way for our 97/98 squad - easy to forget we spent over £1m in transfer fees, a figure I doubt we’ve ever been close to matching either before or since.
Money well spent though.
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I think we paid 85k for Mendonca, an absolute steal at that price, but like you say he was certainly no marquee signing at that point, same goes for most of the decent strikers I've seen for town. Boulding, Connell, Hearn all fall into that bucket. Gary Jones was a last minute signing if I remember.
Ready is probably the exception, he certainly felt like a bit of a coup, maybe Neilson.
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If you mention Wilkinson, Ford, Drinkell, then you should also add Gary Lund.
An expensive striker who didn't actually do it for us. Phil Hubbard.
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Yeah I thought Superclive was bought for about £85k and sold got about £700k.
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Yeah I thought Superclive was bought for about £85k and sold got about £700k.
Quite a few at the time were bothered he may prove injury prone with his knee(s) even though he had started here on loan. |
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If you mention Wilkinson, Ford, Drinkell, then you should also add Gary Lund.
An expensive striker who didn't actually do it for us. Phil Hubbard.
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Just wondering who it is you think you’re speaking for?
In one post you’ve claimed to speak for the board, management and squad in saying they’ve no ambition, then claimed to speak for others in saying they’re happy in mid-table, then gone on to assume you speak for 3000 season ticket holders.
Have a bit of humility. You speak for yourself, and you’re just one ársehole, like the rest of us on here, with an opinion. Don’t try and ventriloquise others to strengthen a pretty weak argument.
I’m old enough to remember 1969 when we stayed in the league by sending boxes of fish round League clubs to vote for us in the re-election. From that time, I’ve been fortunate enough to see us survive and then thrive in the football league. You might want to throw insults around. I’m not into that. |
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Phil Hubbard? Complete steal compared to Murray Jones.
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I still can't believe that we managed to get our money back on Murray Jones.
Me neither. Couldn’t hit a barn door. |
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If you mention Wilkinson, Ford, Drinkell, then you should also add Gary Lund.
An expensive striker who didn't actually do it for us. Phil Hubbard.
I thought about Gary Lund but thought he didn't play enough games for us - but looking at his record he played 60 times scoring 24 goals so only 10 fewer than Reddy - I thought it was fewer than that. Superb control in the box - if he had any pace he would have been a nailed on top level striker. |
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I thought Mendonca was out of contract when he left, but turns out we did get a decent fee
IIRC he was out of contract, but at the time the Bosman rule didn't apply within England for some reason (so he could've gone to Real Madrid for free, but luckily he chose Charlton). |
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I think that Super Clive was the only player to win the "Cult Hero" award for 2 different clubs when the BBC ran a poll a few years back.
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I know he was only a loan signing but when Nigel Jemson came on loan, his partnership with super Clive was outstanding.
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Steve Kabba and David Nielsen were both quality, as was Super Jack, who was virtually home grown, even if he was from Sheffield.
Bradley Allen was decent, as were Hearn and Connell.
Birtles was still class when he came to us whereas Ashcroft was a disappointment, despite his price tag. I always thought it was an obvious case of him not wanting to be here, as Limerick said.
I don't think I fully appreciated either Woods or Livvo at the time, due to their lack of pace but looking back Woods was a very cute and skilful player - and decent finisher - even if he did look like he was running through treacle.
Livvo was a warrior, great in the air and strong as an ox so good at holding the ball up. He used to bully the opposition too. Didn't he kick Casey Keller into the back of the net, along with the ball in one game? I'll also never forget when him and Teale were both sent off in the Villa game, both with their shirts shredded to bits.
The Reddy/Lump partnership was special and later Patterson was one positive in a very poor team.
But my all time favourite has to be Super Clive. What a player.
*Bit too "young" to remember Drinkell or Wilko properly.
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Steve Kabba and David Nielsen were both quality, as was Super Jack, who was virtually home grown, even if he was from Sheffield.
Bradley Allen was decent, as were Hearn and Connell.
Birtles was still class when he came to us whereas Ashcroft was a disappointment, despite his price tag. I always thought it was an obvious case of him not wanting to be here, as Limerick said.
I don't think I fully appreciated either Woods or Livvo at the time, due to their lack of pace but looking back Woods was a very cute and skilful player - and decent finisher - even if he did look like he was running through treacle.
Livvo was a warrior, great in the air and strong as an ox so good at holding the ball up. He used to bully the opposition too. Didn't he kick Casey Keller into the back of the net, along with the ball in one game? I'll also never forget when him and Teale were both sent off in the Villa game, both with their shirts shredded to bits.
The Reddy/Lump partnership was special and later Patterson was one positive in a very poor team.
But my all time favourite has to be Super Clive. What a player.
*Bit too "young" to remember Drinkell or Wilko properly.
Still maintain that Hearn could’ve gone right to the top had he stayed injury free. At his best he was far and away better than Bogle, Amond and Connell. A proper shame his body let him down |
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Still maintain that Hearn could’ve gone right to the top had he stayed injury free. At his best he was far and away better than Bogle, Amond and Connell.
A proper shame his body let him down
I loved watching Hearn, he'd get most out of their seat when he got on the ball in the opposition's half. Hard to say if he was better than Bogle as he never got the opportunity to play League 2 or League 1 football but on his day I'd agree he was just as good as Omar in tier 5. |
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Steve Kabba and David Nielsen were both quality, as was Super Jack, who was virtually home grown, even if he was from Sheffield.
Bradley Allen was decent, as were Hearn and Connell.
Birtles was still class when he came to us whereas Ashcroft was a disappointment, despite his price tag. I always thought it was an obvious case of him not wanting to be here, as Limerick said.
I don't think I fully appreciated either Woods or Livvo at the time, due to their lack of pace but looking back Woods was a very cute and skilful player - and decent finisher - even if he did look like he was running through treacle.
Livvo was a warrior, great in the air and strong as an ox so good at holding the ball up. He used to bully the opposition too. Didn't he kick Casey Keller into the back of the net, along with the ball in one game? I'll also never forget when him and Teale were both sent off in the Villa game, both with their shirts shredded to bits.
The Reddy/Lump partnership was special and later Patterson was one positive in a very poor team.
But my all time favourite has to be Super Clive. What a player.
*Bit too "young" to remember Drinkell or Wilko properly.
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Hearn wasn't particularly quick but he was explosive over them first few yards.
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We lost the game but have a look at the Livvo/Teale incident. 2:40 in on the video but then they discuss it after the game from about 16:50 in.
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We lost the game but have a look at the Livvo/Teale incident. 2:40 in on the video but then they discuss it after the game from about 16:50 in.
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Thanks for sharing Les, I enjoyed watching it again. I didn't realise a very young "Handysides" was at fault for both goals. McGrath was collosal and kept Villla in the game although admittedly Teale was unlucky to get an early bath! State of his shirt after tangling with Livvo 😂 |
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Thanks for sharing Les, I enjoyed watching it again. I didn't realise a very young "Handysides" was at fault for both goals.
McGrath was collosal and kept Villla in the game although admittedly Teale was unlucky to get an early bath! State of his shirt after tangling with Livvo 😂
That Team. What a joy to watch. |
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Still maintain that Hearn could’ve gone right to the top had he stayed injury free. At his best he was far and away better than Bogle, Amond and Connell.
A proper shame his body let him down
Agree. Best striker we have had since Reddy IMO. |
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I loved watching Hearn, he'd get most out of their seat when he got on the ball in the opposition's half. Hard to say if he was better than Bogle as he never got the opportunity to play League 2 or League 1 football but on his day I'd agree he was just as good as Omar in tier 5.
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Was the game filmed anywhere?
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We lost the game but have a look at the Livvo/Teale incident. 2:40 in on the video but then they discuss it after the game from about 16:50 in.
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