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May 24, 2021, 2:59pm

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Hendrie & Coke no news, due to speak to them today or tomorrow.

Not much chance of any of the loan players from last season coming back. Menayese only one he could see coming back but no offers.

Knows the players he wants that are currently under contract and who he doesn't want, hoping they make the right decisions.

A lot of players will be out of contract this closed season.

Double figures (Players) likely to come into the football club, basically brand new squad.

No new signings close, wont be held to ransom on any players and needs to work for both parties.

Will look at loans during the season due to different rules in the National League.

Offers on the table for Ben Grist from Premier League clubs but no done deals yet.

Expects other clubs to be heavily backed in the National League next season and will not be an easy league to get out of.


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Expects other clubs to be heavily backed in the National League next season and will not be an easy league to get out of.


Starting already with his negative approach.









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Quoted from cannylad68
Expects other clubs to be heavily backed in the National League next season and will not be an easy league to get out of.


Starting already with his negative approach.




Yeah, I was definitely expecting him to come out and say that we are going to urine this tinpot league.
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Expects other clubs to be heavily backed in the National League next season and will not be an easy league to get out of.


Starting already with his negative approach.



Jesus I don't know why you bother with us, this is the most positive the club has been in decades and you roll out that tripe??
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Yeah, I was definitely expecting him to come out and say that we are going to urine this tinpot league.


I would have liked to have heard him acknowledge its a tough league but to have given a positive message that we will put everything we possibly can into promotion, Hurst is naturally dour and comes across as negative, if anyone here has worked for a negative manager or been married to a negative person they will know it does rub off on those around them, positivity breeds positivity and that is a fact.
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I would have liked to have heard him acknowledge its a tough league but to have given a positive message that we will put everything we possibly can into promotion, Hurst is naturally dour and comes across as negative, if anyone here has worked for a negative manager or been married to a negative person they will know it does rub off on those around them, positivity breeds positivity and that is a fact.


What he says to the media doesn't necessarily echo what he says on the training ground/ in the changing room.

Here is a quote from Pep today 'bigging up' Chelsea before the Champions League final: 'Chelsea create problems for all the teams, difficult to stop them. Their set up, wide in the sides and depth. They are so close the distances between players. They play really good in the pockets, in behind. Create problems for all teams not just us.'

I'm certain Pep is fairly positive with his team just before they go out; I'm also certain that Hurst is too.

PS- this is just a quick example... I'm not suggesting that Paul Hurst is the English Guardiola  
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I would have liked to have heard him acknowledge its a tough league but to have given a positive message that we will put everything we possibly can into promotion, Hurst is naturally dour and comes across as negative, if anyone here has worked for a negative manager or been married to a negative person they will know it does rub off on those around them, positivity breeds positivity and that is a fact.


Good job we've Jason and Andrew.



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I would have liked to have heard him acknowledge its a tough league but to have given a positive message that we will put everything we possibly can into promotion, Hurst is naturally dour and comes across as negative, if anyone here has worked for a negative manager or been married to a negative person they will know it does rub off on those around them, positivity breeds positivity and that is a fact.


I loved the way that you have tagged a negative wife Into that comment,  Almost in a knowing sort of way, really made me smile. Comedy gold
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Quoted from cannylad68
Expects other clubs to be heavily backed in the National League next season and will not be an easy league to get out of.


Starting already with his negative approach



More a statement of fact though, isn’t it ......


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Jesus I don't know why you bother with us, this is the most positive the club has been in decades and you roll out that tripe??


Not sure how you can say the club is at its most positive for decades seeing as we are heading into the abyss that is the National League
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Hurst hasn't got the brass neck of Holloway, wanting to be in the limelight all of the time.

He will be talking to Directors, quietly planning and plotting his transfer and kick out plans ready for next season.

Did anyone expect flamboyant behaviour from him after the team being relegated??

If he wants 10 new players in, he must have already got a long hit list and shown it to the Directors for financial approval, as well as having a rough idea of how to remove other players not seen as being part if his team going forward.

Wanting to have a regular settled first 11 for most of next season, surely looking at players with over 35 appearances this season and few injuries.

Perhaps a steady thoughtful approach this year will be better?
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Not sure how you can say the club is at its most positive for decades seeing as we are heading into the abyss that is the National League


Because we're jumping into the water with armbands on this time, not an anchor round our necks. That's not rhyming slang by the way
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Hendrie & Coke no news, due to speak to them today or tomorrow.

Not much chance of any of the loan players from last season coming back. Menayese only one he could see coming back but no offers.

Knows the players he wants that are currently under contract and who he doesn't want, hoping they make the right decisions.

A lot of players will be out of contract this closed season.

Double figures (Players) likely to come into the football club, basically brand new squad.

No new signings close, wont be held to ransom on any players and needs to work for both parties.

Will look at loans during the season due to different rules in the National League.

Offers on the table for Ben Grist from Premier League clubs but no done deals yet.

Expects other clubs to be heavily backed in the National League next season and will not be an easy league to get out of.


Having listened to the interview I thought it was good considering that the NL hasn't finished and the list of players available is yet to be published.

He certainly doesn't expect to sign any of the loanees so that's the end of the wish list. Neither does he expect some of those under contract to stay. What I did like was that he says that he is not going to be held to ransom and might, although I don't like it, play the waiting game.

All in all informative without making ridiculous promises. Far better than an upbeat treacherous Holloway.


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Not sure how you can say the club is at its most positive for decades seeing as we are heading into the abyss that is the National League


Seriously? The division is mostly irrelevant in my opinion, small term hurt for long term benefits with the change at boardroom level. I cant remember this positivity at the club since 98 so I stand by statement.

Staying a football league club with the old regime or a non league club with the new board I know which one I will take every day of the week. I imagine this will  be the biggest uptake in season tickets for a generation.
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Expects other clubs to be heavily backed in the National League next season and will not be an easy league to get out of.


Starting already with his negative approach.



Haha yes, The Conference - notoriously the easiest division to get promoted from in English football.
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I would have liked to have heard him acknowledge its a tough league but to have given a positive message that we will put everything we possibly can into promotion, Hurst is naturally dour and comes across as negative, if anyone here has worked for a negative manager or been married to a negative person they will know it does rub off on those around them, positivity breeds positivity and that is a fact.


I work for a boss who is massively successful and he always challenges us internally in a really positive way to try and do better.  At the same time he is always very cautious in external messages to avoid creating unnecessary pressure.  That is good management.
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sounds like he's gone through his 'wish list' and been rebuffed (probably knowing full well that none would come to fruition)
i wonder if we might have to wait for a few weeks to get signings in - i think he might be going after players who are with those top NL sides, and they're still playing until mid June
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I would have liked to have heard him acknowledge its a tough league but to have given a positive message that we will put everything we possibly can into promotion, Hurst is naturally dour and comes across as negative, if anyone here has worked for a negative manager or been married to a negative person they will know it does rub off on those around them, positivity breeds positivity and that is a fact.


I take it you didn't listen to the bit where Hurst said that he fully expects us to be right up there next year? He literally said: "...people will expect us to be strong and, obviously, that's certainly what I'm hoping. We all are connected with the club" (about 15 mins in).

Maybe you're distracted by his accent, but I heard that he expects us to be challenging for promotion whilst acknowledging that we will be coming up against some very good teams. It was an interview filled with the optimism of a promotion push and the dash of realism that we won't walk the league. Pretty good balance if you ask me.
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If you watch Stockwood's latest video on YouTube he notes how hard Hurst is working and that they know who they want. You can see he's impressed with his work ethic.


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Haha yes, The Conference - notoriously the easiest division to get promoted from in English football.


And that's just working out how the bloody play offs work!


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Seriously? The division is mostly irrelevant in my opinion, small term hurt for long term benefits with the change at boardroom level. I cant remember this positivity at the club since 98 so I stand by statement.

Staying a football league club with the old regime or a non league club with the new board I know which one I will take every day of the week. I imagine this will  be the biggest uptake in season tickets for a generation.


So it's an irrelevant league, you expect us to be promoted next season?
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In reality what did people expect? He’s not going to go shouting from the roof tops about how we’re going to dominate next season, he doesn’t even know who’s going to be playing for us and probably won’t until the start of July at the earliest. Unlike his predecessor he will have a structured plan with a long list of targets.

I’m surprised that people see someone who is being realistic, low key and honest as being dour.

Yes in the context of “the pyramid” and all the day to day hype we see in professional football the NL is only relevant to the clubs that are in it or aspire to be in it. All that said as only 2 go up and the play offs are stretched out by definition it’s a difficult league to get out of and despite a handful of exceptions in the last decade the relegated clubs generally don’t go straight back up.  

We have to face facts that possibly/potentially next season we won’t have the best side, biggest budget or extension infrastructure. Considering the state of the club in the last 5 years why would we?  


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What i like and take from this interview is that we are not taking the league lightly, fully understanding of the challenge ahead, looking to sign double figures of players and prepared to be patient to get the best players possible to challenge this year whereas we have been guilty of not in the past, especially during the first couple of years we were last in the conference.

I think the Sutton utds of the league show you dont need the most talented, skilful or highest paid players to get back to the efl but well drilled, organised, committed and team spirit to get you back up there.

I am confident Hurst can bring that back again with the right players in place come August
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So it's an irrelevant league, you expect us to be promoted next season?


Jesus wept I didn't say the league is irrelevant I said whichever league we are in is irrelevant to the positivity that is currently within the club and it's supporters.

Anyway I must stop with the replies as a far more intelligent person than me once wrote "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".

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Jesus wept I didn't say the league is irrelevant I said whichever league we are in is irrelevant to the positivity that is currently within the club and it's supporters.

Anyway I must stop with the replies as a far more intelligent person than me once wrote "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience".



No you didn't, you said

The division is mostly irrelevant in my opinion  No mention of whichever.

So as long as supporters feel good you wouldn't give a toss what league we are in then?

Personally I think it is a disgrace that we are now out of the Football League but if you want to be happy with the club losing out on hundreds of thousands of pounds a season and possibly down here for years to come, I hope you enjoy it.
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In reality what did people expect? He’s not going to go shouting from the roof tops about how we’re going to dominate next season, he doesn’t even know who’s going to be playing for us and probably won’t until the start of July at the earliest. Unlike his predecessor he will have a structured plan with a long list of targets.

I’m surprised that people see someone who is being realistic, low key and honest as being dour.

I've never got this dour thing either. I've always thought he generally talks very well. Considered and articulate. I think the criticisms you could throw at him would be not putting his hands up and admitting his own faults and having snidey little jibes at the fans. Hopefully he'll have knocked the latter on the head a bit this time round. Boston to us was a big step up and I think the attention from our support was a bit more fractured than he'd have thought, but it's like that at most clubs over a certain size. I'd like to think that having been at two clubs that don't travel as well as us in Scunthorpe and Shrewsbury and a much bigger club with a vast amount of pressure in Ipswich that he'll perhaps now see our support in a different light and consider this before sounding off against us.

If you want to know what a dour manager sounds like, all you have to do is tune into Radio Humberside and sure enough you'll be hearing from Grant McCann. Absolute barrel of laughs that guy.
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No you didn't, you said

The division is mostly irrelevant in my opinion  No mention of whichever.

So as long as supporters feel good you wouldn't give a toss what league we are in then?

Personally I think it is a disgrace that we are now out of the Football League but if you want to be happy with the club losing out on hundreds of thousands of pounds a season and possibly down here for years to come, I hope you enjoy it.


I can't see how both statements are different other than the words used? they both mean the same.....

Anyway I will leave you to split the finite details of the above, you must be one hell of a laugh on a night out.
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Don't worry you are not crazy the two statements are not different. I read it and understood it as you have presented it.
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