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smokey111
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Wow.major concession  from Yoda.i know it will hurt, but can you go that extra mile and accept that it was a bloody good win yesterday  given the injuries and non availability that hurst had to cope with?


You might be waiting a while.


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No great win any win is great.
3 more and we have a chance a slim chance
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My take on this remains that if you put the Holloway outfit, with him in charge for the duration, through the whole season we would have gone down.

If you let Hurst have the full run at this season, even with the squad he's got now, we would probably finish lower mid-table.  If he had a bit more of the budget that Holloway wasted, we would be pushing into the higher reaches of mid-table but that would be it.  

Quality costs money, we've not had much to spend in January and our marquee signing was a huge disappointment (Payne).

I still maintain that you can easily under estimate the absolute shower that Hurst inherited.
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To add to this, at the start of the Hurst reign we took a couple of bad beatings, at Port Vale and Scunthorpe. After this we have been pretty solid. Under the half wit we took some absolute batterings.
On a positive note, we have half a team for next season and some time to prepare. Nobody knows better than us the nightmare of the national league but I think a few cards are in our favour next season subject to us having a highly competitive budget.
1.as stated above we will not need a complete fresh start for players
2. By our standards the fan base should be united.There is always the vocal minority but most of us realise that Hurst is not a bad option in the National league
3. We are expertly acquainted with this level, under no delusions and have a manager who knows his way around this. Hopefully with better backing we should really come out fighting.
PS I hope we stay up but I got over this a few weeks ago and so prefer to stay realistic, utm
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To add to this, at the start of the Hurst reign we took a couple of bad beatings, at Port Vale and Scunthorpe. After this we have been pretty solid. Under the half wit we took some absolute batterings.
On a positive note, we have half a team for next season and some time to prepare. Nobody knows better than us the nightmare of the national league but I think a few cards are in our favour next season subject to us having a highly competitive budget.
1.as stated above we will not need a complete fresh start for players
2. By our standards the fan base should be united.There is always the vocal minority but most of us realise that Hurst is not a bad option in the National league
3. We are expertly acquainted with this level, under no delusions and have a manager who knows his way around this. Hopefully with better backing we should really come out fighting.
PS I hope we stay up but I got over this a few weeks ago and so prefer to stay realistic, utm


Although I am resigned to us going down, there is still that glimmer of hope that we won't. One thing I am sure is that Hurst and most of the squad will give it a good shot. Although the thought of relegation still hurts, especially my pride as a Grimbarian, the spectre of the going non-league doesn't seem as daunting this time around. We have a manager who knows what it takes to get promoted back into the league. Fans point to how it took him 6 seasons to achieve that last time but I feel he was hampered by Shouty and as a solo manager would have achieved it in less. We have the prospect of new owners who appear to have a different philosophy on how the club should be run. We have a large parachute payment which could be used to finance a good recruitment drive in the summer. I am quite confident that with the right approach we get achieve promotion next season. Hull have managed it following a relegation by sticking by their manager and I think we can do the same.


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Although I am resigned to us going down, there is still that glimmer of hope that we won't. One thing I am sure is that Hurst and most of the squad will give it a good shot. Although the thought of relegation still hurts, especially my pride as a Grimbarian, the spectre of the going non-league doesn't seem as daunting this time around. We have a manager who knows what it takes to get promoted back into the league. Fans point to how it took him 6 seasons to achieve that last time but I feel he was hampered by Shouty and as a solo manager would have achieved it in less. We have the prospect of new owners who appear to have a different philosophy on how the club should be run. We have a large parachute payment which could be used to finance a good recruitment drive in the summer. I am quite confident that with the right approach we get achieve promotion next season. Hull have managed it following a relegation by sticking by their manager and I think we can do the same.


which it didnt
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which it didnt


My mistake and thank you for correcting me - 5 seasons and a couple of months ! I haven't worked out the couple or so of months down to the exact days as I didn't want to be so pedantic (and I couldn't be ar*ed !)


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nope on his own, 4 seasons
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nope on his own, 4 seasons


Read my original post! I said that "some fans" said it took him 6 seasons and I did say he had Shouty with him at the beginning. You must learn to read posts completely before making a comment!


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nope on his own, 4 seasons


Wrong!!! Rob Scott left 6th September 2013 and we were promoted 15th May 2016, which is slightly less than 3 full seasons - 33 calendar months.


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