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Which is why I don’t think it’s ridiculous to think he could be back in the 4th division soon.
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January 23, 2021, 10:08am |
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It sounds like he's been sussed out yet again. He's Div 2 at best in reality and that's flattering him. Yes, he looked good for us at Conference level but only because he had good service from probably our best ever mid-field in 20 years and he had an excellent partner upfront. It's a mystery to me why he's still held in such high regard when he's basically failed everywhere he's been since his Town days- or are too many still living in the past?
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KingstonMariner |
January 23, 2021, 10:16am |
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Think you’re being harsh. He looked even better for us in the League without having the support of a top end midfield. He probably just jumped up to the Championship too soon.
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LocalLadGTFC |
January 23, 2021, 10:48am |
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It sounds like he's been sussed out yet again. He's Div 2 at best in reality and that's flattering him. Yes, he looked good for us at Conference level but only because he had good service from probably our best ever mid-field in 20 years and he had an excellent partner upfront. It's a mystery to me why he's still held in such high regard when he's basically failed everywhere he's been since his Town days- or are too many still living in the past?
Because he was even better in league 2 without a great partner up front or a very good midfield and scored some unbelievable goals.
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January 23, 2021, 11:12am |
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Bogle was the only real 'star' player we've had in a lot of years, the sort of player that all the kids in school wanted to be and the only player that really got my nephew excited about watching town, it was so great to see him walk out as mascot with Omar away at stevenage....I remember Bignot asking him who he wanted to walk out with and he couldn't answer quick enough. I agree bogle has maybe not made it as far as some predicted but he has definitely made more of a career and had great experiences than a lot of players at his level
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January 23, 2021, 12:12pm |
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It sounds like he's been sussed out yet again. He's Div 2 at best in reality and that's flattering him. Yes, he looked good for us at Conference level but only because he had good service from probably our best ever mid-field in 20 years and he had an excellent partner upfront. It's a mystery to me why he's still held in such high regard when he's basically failed everywhere he's been since his Town days- or are too many still living in the past?
Somewhat bitter. Division 2 at best? He was almost unplayable at times after we went up. 19 in 27 says that he was a stand out division 2 player, when we were hardly tearing it up as a team. It almost as if some take pleasure in pulling apart Bogle.
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Not in Charltons squad today . I expect a huge announcement soon
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Not in Charltons squad today . I expect a huge announcement soon
Hopefully they have not let him near a TV in the last hour.
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The fact he hasn't lasted at a club for more than 6 months since he left us suggests to me there are deeper issues than just not having the ability for that level - I've always had the impression that despite outward appearances, his ego is quite fragile. A more resilient player might have used the Wigan experience as motivation to make more of a go of things at Cardiff, determined not to fall out of favour again but that didn't happen. I can't knock his goalscoring record for us, but I really wouldn't have him back - his career needs re-railing very quickly but unfortunately I just don't think he has the mentality to do so. Throughout his career, I've seen him make various comments on Twitter bemoaning his situation at a number of clubs but it's your work on the training ground, not online, that determines your success. Harry Kane had a number of underwhelming loan spells levels below the Premier League as a youngster at Spurs but, by all accounts, had an utterly relentless drive to better himself and trained obsessively to get where he is now. Could Bogle have done the same at Wigan, Cardiff, or Birmingham if he was determined to drag himself to the absolute ceiling of his ability?
I also think that, towards the end of his time with us, Bogle was becoming detrimental to our overall play. I'm a firm believer that a striker should be greedy but it got to the point where it became 'unintelligent greed' - every time he received the ball he'd fire it into a defender or drag it wide from a daft angle. I can't remember the game or who it was but I remember an occasion in front of the Pontoon where he chose to shoot from a narrow angle and dragged it when he could've easily squared it for a tap-in. He then spent the next 10 minutes sulking and strolling around because the player in question had the audacity to question his decision; we don't need that in a relegation battle.
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I had a look at the Charlton forum earlier and the general consensus is that he's just not good enough. Take away the extreme comments you see on all forums and in summary a good old fashioned hard working centre forward, holds it up well but just not good enough
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