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Firstly, £5 million? Really? Lincoln's training ground cost £1.3m.

And Junior players aren't based at Cheapside are they? They're based at Oasis Academy Wintringham, so doesn't effect them where the first team are training.

Youth players (I assume you mean 1st & 2nd year YTs) aren't all based in North East Lincolnshire are they? Take a closer look at them. As many come from other's club's academies than come through our own junior system. At the end of the day those players are club employees as soon as they sign a YT form and they will train wherever the club tells them to train. The club has a mini bus for those who can't make their own way to the training ground. Nothing would change,

And anyway, who said the club's training ground should be a community asset? It's not. It's the clubs premises for training and match preparation.


Our new owners history in being involved with grant funded community based projects perhaps?

Lincoln's training complex isn't comprehensive. It's a very basic facility but obviously better than we have at present and centred around the first team, other age groups still spread across the city, I'd hope we aspire to better for the long term. Only three turf pitches, none artificial which can cost between 300-500k apiece. Not floodlit, no indoor pitch. It offers little more capacity than Cheapside other than better quality facilities, building and pitches. Of course it may be enough for what we need, and I'd happily take that, but I think we could do better. Other lower league clubs have invested much more than 1.3m, costs of creating turf pitches with drainage systems don't come cheap as don't artificial pitches, indoor pitches or floodlights or the land itself. Lincoln was privately funded and has stopped short of being a facility for every level of their club. I'd hope we could build a better centralised centre of excellence for all and creating a community asset is advantageous in obtaining grants to build something better than Lincoln have got. Why not aspire to do better than our rivals?


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Lincoln's training complex isn't comprehensive. It's a very basic facility but obviously better than we have at present and centred around the first team, other age groups still spread across the city, I'd hope we aspire to better for the long term. Only three turf pitches, none artificial which can cost between 300-500k apiece. Not floodlit, no indoor pitch. It offers little more capacity than Cheapside other than better quality facilities, building and pitches. Of course it may be enough for what we need, and I'd happily take that, but I think we could do better. Other lower league clubs have invested much more than 1.3m, costs of creating turf pitches with drainage systems don't come cheap as don't artificial pitches, indoor pitches or floodlights or the land itself. Lincoln was privately funded and has stopped short of being a facility for every level of their club. I'd hope we could build a better centralised centre of excellence for all and creating a community asset is advantageous in obtaining grants to build something better than Lincoln have got. Why not aspire to do better than our rivals?


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It's a pdf. Well worth a download and read..


So it's better than our's in every way conceivable. More pitches. Better pitches. A better building. Better facilities. Better gym.

Why would we need floodlights on our training ground? Players are generally in from about 9:30AM until early afternoon (2ish). Daylight all year round during those hours.

Anyway, a sensible approach would be to build what we need now (see Lincoln's), but built in a way to add facilities in the future as we progress.
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So it's better than our's in every way conceivable. More pitches. Better pitches. A better building. Better facilities. Better gym.

Why would we need floodlights on our training ground? Players are generally in from about 9:30AM until early afternoon (2ish). Daylight all year round during those hours.

Anyway, a sensible approach would be to build what we need now (see Lincoln's), but built in a way to add facilities in the future as we progress.


Who knows what the right or sensible approach is? You know what our new training ground budget is? I don't either, I was just going off the sums that other clubs have spent and the physical cost of buildings, pitches etc. It won't be our decision. It's beyond our knowledge at the minute. As it stands today we haven't a pot to pisss in and we're stuck at Cheapside. Of course we'd look at Lincoln's today and want that compared to Cheapside, but I was only pointing out that there could be better ways to create a more comprehensive grant funded training facility than the basic one at Lincoln, and one that just doesn't centre around the first team..
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Read the debate re Lincoln’s training ground and, unless they have made significant improvements to it, I would hope we are getting something better. They have built there’s on the side of the A15, opposite RAF Scampton, where is is exposed very much to the elements and has had to be relaid already as it is susceptible to flooding. Plus not sure that it’s very much bigger in acreage to Cheapside.

They may have addressed a number of these issues, no doubt Norfolk Imp will soon correct me, but it certainly doesn’t look like the best choice of site to me.
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Read the debate re Lincoln’s training ground and, unless they have made significant improvements to it, I would hope we are getting something better. They have built there’s on the side of the A15, opposite RAF Scampton, where is is exposed very much to the elements and has had to be relaid already as it is susceptible to flooding. Plus not sure that it’s very much bigger in acreage to Cheapside.

They may have addressed a number of these issues, no doubt Norfolk Imp will soon correct me, but it certainly doesn’t look like the best choice of site to me.


Sounds like an exposed site. Up there on the ridge, and then with Scampton's wide open spaces.


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