Taylor recalled

Quoted from Boris Johnson

no we need to continue the clear out....everyone except Macca/Morias out. out out!

While we're clearing out the dross, have you got a parent forum we can send you back to?

Not a great loss

Probally would have done far far better under the guidance of Hurst than fullashit Holloway....? Oh well, more space to replace.

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Quoted from ska face

Do you think the way the u23s set-up across the country works is benefitting the game & the players within it?

IMO it looks to me like there are plenty of promising players being kept in a state of limbo when they could be out actually developing.

I don't think it is, no.

The problem that's so often talked about is bridging the gap between a player finishing his YT and signing pro, to breaking into the first team. But the PL2 and the u23 leagues dont solve that. All they do is repeat what those players have been doing for the 2 years previous - playing games against other kids of similar age. Yes they're allowed a few overage players in the u23 lineups but it should be the other way around shouldn't it, a few kids playing amongst a team of more experienced players, or at least half & half, like it used to be in the days of reserves leagues. Then the young lads are exposed to playing against seasoned pros and gradually adapt to the mentality and physicality they might need to succeed in the senior game.

What causes the biggest issue is the massive youth squads that the big clubs have by stockpiling any half-decent prospect they can get their hands on. So they end up with so many young pros at 19/20 they dont know what to do with them. Loads go out on loan, some have lots of loan spells and never get settled anyway, and most get to 25 having not played more than 50 professional games at any club. When realistically if they'd have gone to an Academy lower down the pyramid, they might be more likely to be exposed to senior football and develop the mentality needed. Or at least be closer to the first team once they sign pro. Not sign pro and then stay in an u23 set-up completely detached from the first team, effectively just a repeat of their YT years like I said.

The EPPP doesn't help. Well, it maybe helps the big clubs hoover up the talent. There's rules on how close/far away someone is allowed to live to be signed by a particular academy (varies at different age groups). But the biggest clubs will just offer to buy said family a house to move them within range.

Needs to be smaller caps on sizes of academy squads. Go back to a reserve league so these u23s can mix with senior pros. And tell the PL clubs, the PL and the FA cronies that if they want their youngsters to get match experience, then play them in their own bloody team. If not, release them.

The EFL sold their right to keep all these kids by accepting their annual golden egg from the golden goose .
The EEEP of whatever it’s called is going to give us a World Cup winning team in the near future by giving the best prospects the best coaching apparently. Not looking too good with the current England team I’d say though .
Oh and don’t forget poor old Chelsea who use their EEEP set up to sell about £100M of players per season they’ve been stockpiling for a few years to help with their Financial Fair Play .

Cheers for your efforts Terry but best for both the player and club that we move on!

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

The EFL sold their right to keep all these kids by accepting their annual golden egg from the golden goose .
The EEEP of whatever it’s called is going to give us a World Cup winning team in the near future by giving the best prospects the best coaching apparently. Not looking too good with the current England team I’d say though .
Oh and don’t forget poor old Chelsea who use their EEEP set up to sell about £100M of players per season they’ve been stockpiling for a few years to help with their Financial Fair Play .

The same was said about the Premier League too. Nearly 29 years and we’re still waiting for that World Cup.

I do think it is difficult for young, inexperienced players to succeed in central midfield roles. So much to learn there and so easy for the game to pass you by, especially if your team is on the back foot. It's no surprise that young tyro sorts who break through at a young age tend to be attackers where the odd slip up or anonymous display is just shrugged off. There aren't many Steven Gerrards around.

Unimpressive though Taylor et al have appeared, you can't be too surprised when they've been bunged in as the backbone of an ever-changing and poorly-performing team, often with little experience around them.

A few will probably go on to have reasonable careers at a higher level than us but I agree, the difference between the loanees from Burnley last season and the current bunch has been night and day.

I'd expect Hurst to be looking for steady-Eddie 6/10 experienced players proven at this level in the transfer window - providing we actually sign some players and don't just hang around to see if the season is likely to be abandoned during the next month or two.

He's signing for Burton.

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

The EFL sold their right to keep all these kids by accepting their annual golden egg from the golden goose .
The EEEP of whatever it’s called is going to give us a World Cup winning team in the near future by giving the best prospects the best coaching apparently. Not looking too good with the current England team I’d say though .
Oh and don’t forget poor old Chelsea who use their EEEP set up to sell about £100M of players per season they’ve been stockpiling for a few years to help with their Financial Fair Play .

The England team is looking considerably less 'glamorous' now than the 'golden generation' (Messrs Beckham, Lampard, Ferdinand etc).

BUT look at 2018 World Cup, this team seem to be capable of playing with the 3 best national teams in the world (Belgium, France and Germany imo).

Kane, Sterling, Rashford, Sancho, Grealish, Rice, Henderson, etc etc,