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Mighty_Mariner
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Make of this what you will, but Matt Dean reporting that they have been told by a source VERY close to the situation that Holloway was in fact sacked!!

Inevtible fall out with Fenty?!


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Excuse he didn’t say that on twitter
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A good jurno would expose this, if this is the case I bet a non disclosure has been part of a pay off for Ian Runaway.


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Don’t care either way
It’s Fenty who must go.
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Makes more sense. Holloway pre empting the announcement to salvage what is left of his reputation. Looks better if he walked.

But if true, Day blew smoke up the arris of RH in his interview.
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Day, Fenty and Holloway are like ferrets in a sack.  They’ll happily tear each other apart to emerge better than the others from the shambles they have created.

I am sure this isn’t the case.  But imagine a clever plan to make some money from a clever investment plan, put in a £100k and turn it into much more.  There’s a dodgy guy with a million to invest, get a new ground, sell off the old one, make us all a few quid.  Nothing like that happened of course but if it did, and then the whole thing blows up in public, there is bound to be some major bloodletting afterwards.
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Quoted from Mighty_Mariner
Make of this what you will, but Matt Dean reporting that they have been told by a source VERY close to the situation that Holloway was in fact sacked!!

Inevtible fall out with Fenty?!


Everybody falls out with honest John. That's the way it works.
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Make of this what you will, but Matt Dean reporting that they have been told by a source VERY close to the situation that Holloway was in fact sacked!!

Inevtible fall out with Fenty?!


That explains the suddenness of Ollies decision. Nothing is ever straightforward with Fenty is it?
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Glad he's gone so if was sacked it was a good decision, although you'd think someone else would be lined up if that was the case like when Slade turned up literally the next day.


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Who was in charge of the team today, Rob?
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Thing is, if he was sacked we know it wasn’t for the reason most managers are sacked...lack of performance but more because he clearly fell out with John Becauee he was promised to be part of a dodgy deal that never came to fruition...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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It all depends why he was sacked If it had anything to do with May, Fenty and the board then why? Did he know and want to take the dirty money or was he so stupid that somehow he didn't know and had a row with Fenty about it.?

Or was he sacked because he is a busted flush bullshitter who couldn't manage a Subbuteo team?

If its the latter it should have happened weeks ago and either way, good riddance it was total balderdash from day one


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Glad he's gone so if was sacked it was a good decision, although you'd think someone else would be lined up if that was the case like when Slade turned up literally the next day.


Should have gone after Dagenham...some on here called  for it.
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Ollie probably told Fenty a few home truths.

Fenty then reacts in the only way he knows.

So Ollie goes.from what a great man Fenty is to you are in business with a convicted fraudster you xxxx !!!!!

Great love affair over in less than a year.


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" I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE UNLESS I'M TOLD " didn't  really sound like a 3 days later " I QUIT " notice... there is an increasing stench wafting forth from somewhere.... a stink thats getting bigger by the day... something is stirring , and there appears to be no real pointers as to where it originates (?) Unless someone somewhere knows more...??? There's an awful lot under the surface here... but for legal reasons it's best not to speculate or suggest.... seems we just have to put up with it, accept things... we are merely fans...


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Fenty=bullshitter
Holloway=bullshitter but sometimes funny
Day=puppet, full of excrement, pretends he has a clue
Marley=allegedly an accountant, foulmouthed irrelevant old man
The rest of the board=irrelevant


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Interesting. But Holloway likes to be Mr Popular so would have thought he would have said he was sacked. Instead of turning everone against him by walking out . But who knows in the basket case that is GTFC
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Interesting. But Holloway likes to be Mr Popular so would have thought he would have said he was sacked. Instead of turning everone against him by walking out . But who knows in the basket case that is GTFC


GTFC were not the only basket case in that relationship...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Sacked and an enhanced pay-off based on an NDA/spinning a yarn about leaving because the prospective new owners contacted him?
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Interesting. But Holloway likes to be Mr Popular so would have thought he would have said he was sacked. Instead of turning everone against him by walking out . But who knows in the basket case that is GTFC


Probably in the severance agreement.
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Quoted from Norseman
Interesting. But Holloway likes to be Mr Popular so would have thought he would have said he was sacked. Instead of turning everone against him by walking out . But who knows in the basket case that is GTFC


He had 18 months left on his contract so he would want Fenty to pay up whether he needs the money or not.


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We will know in a years time when the club releases its next accounts whether Holloway was paid off or not. I pray he hasn’t. That money will surely be supplemented by one man who will add it to his bill.
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Was that Consortium call the call to tell him when the deal is complete he’ll not be required I wonder?


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Quoted from SomeSanity
We will know in a years time when the club releases its next accounts whether Holloway was paid off or not. I pray he hasn’t. That money will surely be supplemented by one man who will add it to his bill.


It’s all looking a bit convenient.
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Holloway was definitely talking after Tuesday's match as if he was going to stay in charge. I imagine him and Fenty had a post-match meeting and had an argument. I think either Holloway quit and Fenty said "you can't quit, you're sacked" or Fenty sacked him and Holloway said "you can't sack me, I quit".

I would say I'm 60% for the former (IH quit first) and 40% for the latter (JSF sacked him first)
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Quoted from GollyGTFC
Holloway was definitely talking after Tuesday's match as if he was going to stay in charge. I imagine him and Fenty had a post-match meeting and had an argument. I think either Holloway quit and Fenty said "you can't quit, you're sacked" or Fenty sacked him and Holloway said "you can't sack me, I quit".

I would say I'm 60% for the former (IH quit first) and 40% for the latter (JSF sacked him first)


And then the convenient phone call from the consortium excuse was created?
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Sacked and paid off on the understanding that he keeps his mouth shut ?


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Can anyone confirm if the argument/discussion took place in the Livesy Arms?

I mean Neil Woods was helping with the team today, the squad are useless, Fenty is still flipping us up the bottom. If it happened in the Livesy at least we know how it ends...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Quoted from HertsGTFC
Was that Consortium call the call to tell him when the deal is complete he’ll not be required I wonder?


They said exactly the opposite.


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Can anyone confirm if the argument/discussion took place in the Livesy Arms?

I mean Neil Woods was helping with the team today, the squad are useless, Fenty is still flipping us up the bottom. If it happened in the Livesy at least we know how it ends...


For those of us who don’t know about the Livesy can you explain more? Or would that be defamation? 😁


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Sadly....have grown entirely indifferent to the whole circus.

Dont believe anything that comes out of the club, certainly dont believe anything Holloway has said since " best run club ever" and certainly dont believe a word from Honest John.



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Funny how things pan out in the end. We all were so optimistic at the start of the year, but now at the end of it I think there is a possibility that Mr. Holloway will be thought of as one of the worst managers this club ever had.


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Both full of themselves, but if he did sack Ollie its one thing he got right, just as long as he picks up the bill and not the club
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i don't get the Livesey Arms reference (or is that were Newell disgraced himself?)
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Come on Aldi. Tell us about the Livesy


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Come on Aldi. Tell us about the Livesy


As we all know, Newell liked a drink and I believe the landlord liked that Newell liked a drink.

Story goes that one Sunday, possibly more than once, but the Sunday Newell was sacked, he and Fenty got in to a very heated argument in which there was alleged fisticuffs band such like.

Now obviously, as both were well respected, honest, morally sound chaos this could be pure speculation...

However, I was living in Lincoln at the time and the very night this is all meant to have happened a couple of ‘players’, I use that term loosely to describe anyone from that squad happened to be drinking (no surprises there) in my local...as news broke Newell had been sacked, they received messages from folk at the club claiming a huge bust up...

Now please forgive me if the time frame is a tad out, I was half drunk then, and have been several times since. I’ve also worked tirelessly to eradicate that period from my memory (can see me having to do the same with this fiasco) but that is the gist of it...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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I heard a rumour that Holloway asked Fenty to sack him shortly before the original statement, realising he was on a hiding to nothing and that he had failed. Fenty told him no (hence the original statement)
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I’m sure we’ll find out a lot more from Holloway as he has a habit of not being able to keep his mouth shut
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As we all know, Newell liked a drink and I believe the landlord liked that Newell liked a drink.

Story goes that one Sunday, possibly more than once, but the Sunday Newell was sacked, he and Fenty got in to a very heated argument in which there was alleged fisticuffs band such like.

Now obviously, as both were well respected, honest, morally sound chaos this could be pure speculation...

However, I was living in Lincoln at the time and the very night this is all meant to have happened a couple of ‘players’, I use that term loosely to describe anyone from that squad happened to be drinking (no surprises there) in my local...as news broke Newell had been sacked, they received messages from folk at the club claiming a huge bust up...

Now please forgive me if the time frame is a tad out, I was half drunk then, and have been several times since. I’ve also worked tirelessly to eradicate that period from my memory (can see me having to do the same with this fiasco) but that is the gist of it...


Cheers. Is this different to the alleged tie waggling incident? And wasn’t there a chair incident?


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There were numerous incidents during the Newell era. I’d imagine with egos the size of Fenty’s and Newells it was a regular thing.

Whether Newell was a tool or not, the example and the lead and attitude comes from the top...say no more...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Quoted from aldi_01
There were numerous incidents during the Newell era. I’d imagine with egos the size of Fenty’s and Newells it was a regular thing.

Whether Newell was a tool or not, the example and the lead and attitude comes from the top...say no more...


Oh, I don't think that's in question
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I hope Holloway was sacked as he fully deserved to be.


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In truth holloway should’ve been sacked had he not arrived with this odd reputation...

To be honest I’m not arsed either way, he was a bullshitter and not a very good manager so we’re best off without him...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Cant wait for Ollies next book to come out, should be an interesting read.
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His statement. The one in which he declares he is being "totally honest with fans", begins:

"It is with a heavy heart that I am announcing my resignation as manager of Grimsby Town Football Club."

So that's pretty conclusive isn't it?

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I believe he was sacked too, but that he engineered the situation himself, as he wanted out.

Failing on the pitch because of himself, not because of anyone else.

Used the current board and Alex May and Schutes situation as a convenient opportunity to get out squeaky clean.

All he had done for months was moan and complain. He had lost his bubbly infectious personality. I don’t blame Fenty & Co for that. In the contrary Fenty was riding high on the Holloway euphoria last season. He lived it. It made him look good or slightly more agreeable to folk, and the positive Holloway PR was great for the club at that time.

Holloway has signed crap this season. He’s made a major gaff. Do not conveniently blame Fenty & Co for this and our revised contract protocols with Covid clauses etc. Holloway was a board member. It was Holloway that stood up on camera and told us all that clubs that don’t build in Covid clauses into contracts must be mad as nobody knows what’s around the corner. He was fully behind Covid clauses as a board member and as the manager.

He played the final week expertly to get himself relieved of his duties

Here is something some might not know. Bradford game last week. 20 minutes before kick off where would you expect the manager to be? Around the players, probably in or around the dressing room? I’d say so. With 20 minutes to go before kick off, Holloway was in a meeting with John Fenty. Someone at the club there that night told me this.

I firmly believe that he stood in the dugout v Bradford, sacked and relieved that he would be going home to his family in the West Country for Christmas. Bet his house sale hasn’t completed either, even if that was true.
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As you seem like a honest and inside man Fillipe Noche, where does Towns budget compare to the rest of league 2 because what I am hearing it is in the bottom half of League 2 with less add on's than other clubs and contract changes at the last minute.     


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As you seem like a honest and inside man Fillipe Noche, where does Towns budget compare to the rest of league 2 because what I am hearing it is in the bottom half of League 2 with less add on's than other clubs and contract changes at the last minute.     


No idea pal.

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As you seem like a honest and inside man Fillipe Noche, where does Towns budget compare to the rest of league 2 because what I am hearing it is in the bottom half of League 2 with less add on's than other clubs and contract changes at the last minute.     


Neither am I an inside man
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Well Mr Night, there's no doubt Runaway was a fraud of a manager and signed a load of dross, but who appointed him, and the string of other managers who have had us skirting with the bottom half of the league?

Who got into bed with a Fraudster?

Your pro club propaganda is rubbish.
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I believe he was sacked too, but that he engineered the situation himself, as he wanted out.

Failing on the pitch because of himself, not because of anyone else.

Used the current board and Alex May and Schutes situation as a convenient opportunity to get out squeaky clean.

All he had done for months was moan and complain. He had lost his bubbly infectious personality. I don’t blame Fenty & Co for that. In the contrary Fenty was riding high on the Holloway euphoria last season. He lived it. It made him look good or slightly more agreeable to folk, and the positive Holloway PR was great for the club at that time.

Holloway has signed crap this season. He’s made a major gaff. Do not conveniently blame Fenty & Co for this and our revised contract protocols with Covid clauses etc. Holloway was a board member. It was Holloway that stood up on camera and told us all that clubs that don’t build in Covid clauses into contracts must be mad as nobody knows what’s around the corner. He was fully behind Covid clauses as a board member and as the manager.

He played the final week expertly to get himself relieved of his duties

Here is something some might not know. Bradford game last week. 20 minutes before kick off where would you expect the manager to be? Around the players, probably in or around the dressing room? I’d say so. With 20 minutes to go before kick off, Holloway was in a meeting with John Fenty. Someone at the club there that night told me this.

I firmly believe that he stood in the dugout v Bradford, sacked and relieved that he would be going home to his family in the West Country for Christmas. Bet his house sale hasn’t completed either, even if that was true.


He knew under Fenty he was always going to be safe but he also knew he’d done a bad job and that new owners would if they hadn’t already recognise this too and that he would be swiftly despatched the day they arrived.


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No idea pal.



Shouldn’t you be called Felipe Día?

Fenty dealt with contract negotiations. Remember what happened when Holloway announced the departure of Mohsni then it turned out he hadn’t because Fenty was still handling the negotiations.


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Neither am I an inside man


If that is truly the case, how can you defend a regime that has seen the club become perennial bottom feeders flirting with the abyss trapdoor season on season hoping there is 2 other clubs worse than us. The board are responsible for budgets and generally in football as in life you get what you pay for.

Does the board live in social housing or drive dilapidated and shite cars, no it's just the club that gets the cut to the bone finances on the whim that there will be some football fortune around the corner to boost the coffers and pay back some of the benign debt.


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I’m not defending anyone.

Makes no difference to me whether JF owns the club or not.

All I ask, is that any new owners that come in, are able to support the club financially as well as what John Fenty has.

Hey there’s many a chairman out there with track records of appointing managers that don’t work out. That’s why there are loads of managers out there that have more sackings on their CV’s than they do longevity. It’s gotta be the most insecure job in the world 😂😂

Being a chairman and appointing the right manager is an absolute lottery. It’s pot luck. If Slade had have got a win at the Milennium, our recent history might have looked a bit different. Managers and choosing them is a nightmare.
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I’m not defending anyone.

Makes no difference to me whether JF owns the club or not.

All I ask, is that any new owners that come in, are able to support the club financially as well as what John Fenty has.

Hey there’s many a chairman out there with track records of appointing managers that don’t work out. That’s why there are loads of managers out there that have more sackings on their CV’s than they do longevity. It’s gotta be the most insecure job in the world 😂😂

Being a chairman and appointing the right manager is an absolute lottery. It’s pot luck. If Slade had have got a win at the Milennium, our recent history might have looked a bit different. Managers and choosing them is a nightmare.


But most clubs get it right now and again. We however are looking for a new manager and players every 12 to 18 months. Either the managers are no good, or the backing isn't there. Either way, that is down to the board of the club.

You can appear on here, wherever it is you've surfaced from, with your obvious club bias, but the fans have had enough and the scales have finally fallen from the eyes of everyone bar the sycophants and the deluded.

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I’m not defending anyone.

Makes no difference to me whether JF owns the club or not.

All I ask, is that any new owners that come in, are able to support the club financially as well as what John Fenty has.

Hey there’s many a chairman out there with track records of appointing managers that don’t work out. That’s why there are loads of managers out there that have more sackings on their CV’s than they do longevity. It’s gotta be the most insecure job in the world 😂😂

Being a chairman and appointing the right manager is an absolute lottery. It’s pot luck. If Slade had have got a win at the Milennium, our recent history might have looked a bit different. Managers and choosing them is a nightmare.


Fenty hasn’t supported  the club financially for years. £800k paid back to him since 2016. And most of his support was in loans. He’s cost the club too with his Quixotic pursuit of Great Coates, penny-pinching (loss of good players for nothing and managers) and alienation of other investors and supporters.


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I’m not defending anyone.

Makes no difference to me whether JF owns the club or not.

All I ask, is that any new owners that come in, are able to support the club financially as well as what John Fenty has.

Hey there’s many a chairman out there with track records of appointing managers that don’t work out. That’s why there are loads of managers out there that have more sackings on their CV’s than they do longevity. It’s gotta be the most insecure job in the world 😂😂

Being a chairman and appointing the right manager is an absolute lottery. It’s pot luck. If Slade had have got a win at the Milennium, our recent history might have looked a bit different. Managers and choosing them is a nightmare.


1. So when Rob Scott said "we've got no facking money" what did he mean by that?

2. Why did Hurst said about backroom staff, why didn't he get what he was promised?

Tell me again about backing the manager with a decent budget and why points 1 and 2 stand out when we have been shite, shite for so long something doesn't weight up when it comes to the board saying money is available.

The Club paid back Fenty for him paying off Ramsden whilst trying to fund a competitive team over several seasons, how did that effect our budget in those seasons, so in effect how much did we pay Fenty back a season and did that come out of the playing budget?

It's looks like to me we always have a substandard budget at the start of the season and when things go south as they usually do a bit more of the money that should have been used up front is paid out and this now seems to be norm, a gamble that has seen us rightly at the wrong end of the foot of the football league season on season since Fenty has been the main man. During his tenure for the majoirty of the time he has been at the helm we have been bottom feeders, mocked by the likes of Scumthorpe, a team that for most of it's history rooted to the bottom half of league 2.


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I’m not defending anyone.

Makes no difference to me whether JF owns the club or not.

All I ask, is that any new owners that come in, are able to support the club financially as well as what John Fenty has.

Hey there’s many a chairman out there with track records of appointing managers that don’t work out. That’s why there are loads of managers out there that have more sackings on their CV’s than they do longevity. It’s gotta be the most insecure job in the world 😂😂

Being a chairman and appointing the right manager is an absolute lottery. It’s pot luck. If Slade had have got a win at the Milennium, our recent history might have looked a bit different. Managers and choosing them is a nightmare.


If it was pot luck you'd expect him to get it right half the time 50:50 but Fenty gets it wrong virtually every time. Is that because all these managers are shite or because they don't get the necessary support to do their job properly?
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If it was pot luck you'd expect him to get it right half the time 50:50 but Fenty gets it wrong virtually every time. Is that because all these managers are shite or because they don't get the necessary support to do their job properly?


Well said but it's not that Fenty gets it wrong how could he, Fenty in his world is never wrong, it's just that bit of football fortune doesn't come our way,  


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1. So when Rob Scott said "we've got no facking money" what did he mean by that?

2. Why did Hurst said about backroom staff, why didn't he get what he was promised?

Tell me again about backing the manager with a decent budget and why points 1 and 2 stand out when we have been shite, shite for so long something doesn't weight up when it comes to the board saying money is available..


Just to reinforce this point:

3. Bignot said we had less staff than Solihull, and at a fans forum said everyone at this level had strength and conditioning coaching at which point he was publicly contradicted by the board

4. Jolley publically outted our budget as being  rubbish
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IE Thought he could take kids and make them league footballers ... Wrong mr i am .. you put this squad together and failed . You SAID YOU WAS STAYING TO PUT THINGS RIGHT  THEN DID A RUNNER..  Stick to your tv shows cos thats all you are fit for.. and remember  folk are notlaughing with you   BUT AT YOU
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Just to reinforce this point:

3. Bignot said we had less staff than Solihull, and at a fans forum said everyone at this level had strength and conditioning coaching at which point he was publicly contradicted by the board

4. Jolley publically outted our budget as being  rubbish


Thank you, and I rest my case ma Lord.


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Lincoln seem to do ok with managers.
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I’ve lifted this from elsewhere but it’s written by someone very close to the whole thing, someone who I trust completely on this matter.

The key part is a common theme to most of the managers JSF has appointed. IH was promised things that were not delivered. Particularly around the recruitment and retention of players.

Make you own mind up on it, but I’m know what I think.

“IH appointment was considered by many a fantastic achievement, an opportunity for a high profile manager to bring some quality to the Club.

Initially it worked a treat - the players he brought in, and back, to the Club brought exciting, attacking football which made us all feel positive.

Unfortunately circumstances meant those players were then offered lesser contracts - they, correctly, chose to look elsewhere. Some of those players were higher profile, with more contacts than the usual lower league players we usually brought in. They were, as all players and their agents are, quick to share just how tight, unreasonable & unforgiving JSF is - IH was unable to convince them otherwise, so was left to shop in the gutter. He then saw the empty promises he was made for exactly that & left.

The recent activity has simply laid bare the inadequacies of JSF & the current board, despite their usual ability to find support amongst their cronies; the latest twists have simply driven rusty nails into their already rotting coffins.”


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Still blows my mind that the manager who I’ve heard bang on about morals and values more than any other person, let alone manager, is the one with the least.
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Still blows my mind that the manager who I’ve heard bang on about morals and values more than any other person, let alone manager, is the one with the least.


Maybe he lost his moral compass one day training at Cheapside.


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I’ve lifted this from elsewhere but it’s written by someone very close to the whole thing, someone who I trust completely on this matter.

The key part is a common theme to most of the managers JSF has appointed. IH was promised things that were not delivered. Particularly around the recruitment and retention of players.

Make you own mind up on it, but I’m know what I think.

“IH appointment was considered by many a fantastic achievement, an opportunity for a high profile manager to bring some quality to the Club.

Initially it worked a treat - the players he brought in, and back, to the Club brought exciting, attacking football which made us all feel positive.

Unfortunately circumstances meant those players were then offered lesser contracts - they, correctly, chose to look elsewhere. Some of those players were higher profile, with more contacts than the usual lower league players we usually brought in. They were, as all players and their agents are, quick to share just how tight, unreasonable & unforgiving JSF is - IH was unable to convince them otherwise, so was left to shop in the gutter. He then saw the empty promises he was made for exactly that & left.

The recent activity has simply laid bare the inadequacies of JSF & the current board, despite their usual ability to find support amongst their cronies; the latest twists have simply driven rusty nails into their already rotting coffins.”


No reason to doubt any of this as it fits in with a pattern of behaviour much associated with JF, however, if this is correct it’s even more disappointing that the South West’s, now least favourite knome, didn’t say so in his resignation tweet but like many others one suspects a nice pay off keeps these matters in-house.
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Quoted from Theimperialcoroner
I’ve lifted this from elsewhere but it’s written by someone very close to the whole thing, someone who I trust completely on this matter.

The key part is a common theme to most of the managers JSF has appointed. IH was promised things that were not delivered. Particularly around the recruitment and retention of players.

Make you own mind up on it, but I’m know what I think.

“IH appointment was considered by many a fantastic achievement, an opportunity for a high profile manager to bring some quality to the Club.

Initially it worked a treat - the players he brought in, and back, to the Club brought exciting, attacking football which made us all feel positive.

Unfortunately circumstances meant those players were then offered lesser contracts - they, correctly, chose to look elsewhere. Some of those players were higher profile, with more contacts than the usual lower league players we usually brought in. They were, as all players and their agents are, quick to share just how tight, unreasonable & unforgiving JSF is - IH was unable to convince them otherwise, so was left to shop in the gutter. He then saw the empty promises he was made for exactly that & left.

The recent activity has simply laid bare the inadequacies of JSF & the current board, despite their usual ability to find support amongst their cronies; the latest twists have simply driven rusty nails into their already rotting coffins.”


Holloway stood there telling us what a well run club this is

Holloway stood there telling the media that any club that doesn’t build Covid clauses into their contracts must me mad.

Holloway stood there and said he’s leaving because he wants JF to continue as owner, not a new consortium that he doesn’t like
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1. Holloway stood there telling us what a well run club this is

2. Holloway stood there telling the media that any club that doesn’t build Covid clauses into their contracts must me mad.

3. Holloway stood there and said he’s leaving because he wants JF to continue as owner, not a new consortium that he doesn’t like


1. No one believes this
2. Where is the evidence that other clubs have done this.
3.Hollow words said "It is with a heavy heart that I am announcing my resignation as manager of Grimsby Town Football Club," Holloway said in a statement.

"New wannabe owners are hovering over GTFC and John (Fenty) has told me he is selling his stake in the club. So it’s time for a fresh start across the board for this great club." just an excuse for the state of the current squad and where we are in the league.


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Well if you believe everything Ollie said in his resignation tweet then the good news is Fenty is leaving the club. However, it’s pretty evident that neither of them are particularly interested in giving fans the full truth so we will be finding out shortly if what Ollie said was “Truth or Lie”!
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